BRAD BLOG: CNN's Nuke Plant Photos Identical for Both Iran and N. Korea!

[BradBlog]

CNN's Nuke Plant Photos Identical for Both Iran and N. Korea!
Who's the source for the photos?!
And are there any responsible corporate media outlets left in America?!

Two stories posted in the last week on the CNN website, one on nukes in Iran last Wednesday, and another on nukes in N. Korea on Saturday, both use the same aerial photograph of the same purported nuclear power plant!

But one is supposed to be in Iran and the other is supposed to be in North Korea!

Who's the source for these photos?

The BRAD BLOG asks that and more at:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001187.htm

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

[NewHampshireDem]

1. Uh, nothing to see here folks ... move along ... let me just put this

down the memory hole ... There, all better! Don't you feel better too?

[hector459]

65. Let the IMPEACHMENT begin!! Enough is enough!!!

Will the brain-dead Americans ever wake up?

[Stand and Fight]

76. More than likely not...

They don't seem to really care about anything -- they've been locked into a mental prison with "reality" TV that is staged as much as they've been locked into our "real" world by the Directors of this comedy in Washington. No shackles are as sickening as those which bind far too many American minds in the interest of preserving their freedoms. Impeachment? I would hope that the American people and our Congress will come around, but everyday things are becoming more grime and the ho-hum continues as if nothing is wrong... We have never had a president as covered in chicanery and lies as this man, and we've never had such a criminal in the White House. Whereas, others might have been simply naive, Bush and his cronies are criminals of the worse sort -- they play on the passions and fears of Americans to control them through subtle machinations. Pray that they can wake from their stupor long enough to rise up in fiery anger and indignation at what has happened to our country. Pray that they will unseat the Directors and put good sense and morality back at the head of our foreign and domestic policies.

[okieinpain]

105. thank you, thank you. reality tv......

[B3Nut]

96. Sure they will...

when the whole house of cards implodes as it surely must, and they find themselves jobless and on the streets. Frosts my butt to know the crash will take most of us with it though...

Todd in Beerbratistan

[AnneD]

68. Great catch.....

Are we going to have to continue MSM research work. Considering the alternatives, I say.....kick it

[punpirate]

2. Quite funny in a way...

... but I suspect that there's a more nefarious motive at work. The photos weren't used interchangeably, which would suggest a mistake. The two are cropped differently, and that suggests a motive to deceive.

Good catch. :thumbsup:

[Wilms]

4. Naw. They all look the same.

Don't rogue states buy this stuff in kit-form from the Pakistani official? :shrug:

[MADem]

109. Hahahaha!!!

Either that, or our "intelligence" (used lightly) "experts" (used facetiously) have a kit of their own, entitled "How to spread propaganda against nations who either have assets we want or are considered a threat to our security."

The basic kit contains a couple of draft speeches, with catchy phrases like "axis of evil" and "outposts of tyranny" along with compelling photos of nuke plants, show-and-tell vials for use at the UN and a Congress full of weenies. Photos of troops massing on on a neighboring country's border (to ensure that country's cooperation) are of course, sold separately!

[Stand and Fight]

77. Exactly! n/t

[Dead_Parrot]

3. Lol...

from http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/09/kay.iran/index.html

"Former weapons inspector: 'It's deja vu all over again'"

No shit, sherlock...

[ck4829]

5. Kicked and Nominated

[oblivious]

6. Yes, spread this around. Let the world know.

[Benbow]

9. I have posted about this on a BBC Radio 4 message board

The "Today" programme (UK "flagship" daily current affairs programme)/International News section of the message board, headed "Same picture-different nuclear site", at 11:38 GMT. (I use a different ID on that forum.]

<http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?x=y&board=today.3&sort=T&state=threads>BBC Radio 4 Message Boards

[leftchick]

7. Is there a link to the photos?

I would love to see them side by side...

[TroglodyteScholar]

8. Side by side:

North Korean site:


Iran site:

[IndianaGreen]

11. Looks like the same site

and I am certain they have a similar foto taken over Syria, Cuba, and Venezuela.

[nolabels]

112. Venezuela ?

I thought that picture originally came from Terre Haute :crazy:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

16. I would have to say

Good catch!

Could you provide the links to the originals, too? I want to spread this around.

[IndianaGreen]

19. Here are the CNN links, but read the blog first for the explanation

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/09/kay.iran/index.html

[Guaranteed]

21. I'm not seeing the "slide show" that he's referring to in the blog post

for the N. Korea article...

Did they take it down?

[IndianaGreen]

22. When you see the picture of North Korean leader

it has a yellow button underneath that says "NEXT". Click on it until you get the picture of the North Korean website.

[Guaranteed]

23. Yeah, that wasn't there on my Mac.

Working on the PC now, and there it is.

We have a very, very serious problem here. Deep shit.

[RebelOne]

27. The photos show up differently on a Mac.

You have to scroll way over to the right to see them.

[cascadiance]

58. Or hit the "next photo" button underneath pic of Kim to get it...

That's what worked for Camino on my Mac.

[mike6640]

52. click on the 'next', below Kim's pic

two or three times to see the image.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

37. Thank you

:)

[paineinthearse]

For what it's worth RE the two CNN links

The first has a footer crediting AP - Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

The second has no such footer.

Neither bear the name of a reporter.

[Pepperbelly]

43. They don't look the same to me ...

what am I missing?

[leftchick]

45. The bottom one is a close up of the top one...

It looks pretty obvious to me.

[Pepperbelly]

46. thank you ...

I was comparing apples to oranges.

:toast:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

107. Even more obvious...... here is a little code from both.... enjoy!!

Great job Leftchick.... great job.

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[KharmaTrain]

56. For Those Who Still Can't See It...

Focus on the circle in the lower right section of the top photo...and the buildings around it...then look at the bottom photo...appears to be the same buildings in a close up.

No surprise here...psyops at CNNservative continue to run their stealth misinformation campaign on behalf of the Pentagon and CIA.

My question has, and is, how do we know this is the facility or A facility that is doing what this regime says? If there's some sort of radioactivity going on there, couldn't it be detected? I'm told these satellites have thermal detection devices that can pinpoint those things.

The U.S. gave the Shah several nuclear reactions in the 70's...when Kissinger and the Shah screwed Iraq and the Kurds on the Shatt-Al-Arab dispute (a major cause of the Iran-Iraq war...good going Hank). So we know about these reactors...and I'll bet they've been there for over 25 years.

After the Iraq lies, how can anyone in the International community take anything this regime says seriously?

[Lydia Leftcoast]

95. Reminds me of the identical "grafitti" that appeared

after the Grenada invasion in 1983 and the Panama invasion in 1992(?): white spray paint saying "God Bless America" and "Thank you President Reagan/Bush."

I'd love to link the photos, but they both appeared in Time magazine, which, of course, did not have Internet archives at the time.

I was half-expecting to see similar "grafitti" appearing in Iraq.

According to a sociologist who had done work on Grenada, locals told him that the grafitti had been put up by white men in the middle of the night.

[Tuesday_Morning]

70. The photo from "Iran"...

has some text.

"Additional security perimeter" and an arrow.

[porkrind]

90. Where is Baghdad Bob when we need him?

Nice Catch!!! The propagandists were caught in the act. If they had a sense of humor, it would really be a picture of a wal-mart in Kansas.

This is really outrageous. If we had a real free press, this would be on every front page in the nation.

[Ganja Ninja]

10. They're starting to get caught lying on a daily basis.

If it isn't a bribed reporter it's a fake reporter. Now they don't even seem to care how much they lie or how often they get caught. They couldn't even be bothered to find two different photos to wrap their lies around. I guess if you've seen one terrorist nation's nuclear plant you've seen them all.

[DulceDecorum]

86. You forgot the beheaded doll

and so did everyone else.

John Adams Cody died for your sins.

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. It would seem that CNN realise they are both Iranian photos

because the URLs are:

i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/meast/02/09/kay.iran/story.suspected.site.iran.2.jpg

i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/story.suspected.site.iran.jpg

This is what CNN elsewhere say Yongbyon looks like:


http://www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0304/map.nkorea.yongbyon/frameset.exclude.html

[TroglodyteScholar]

14. Odd...

This particular site looks like a worthless dump. I wouldn't worry about it
:eyes:

[IndianaGreen]

17. The point is that the same foto is being used with a different caption

which leads me to doubt that any of the fotos can be credible. CNN is beating the drums of war, just as it did prior to the invasion of Iraq.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

18. That's cute!

/nkorea.nukes.ap/story.suspected.site.iran.jpg
vs
/kay.iran/story.suspected.site.iran.2.jpg

Is that just to cover their butts down the line? Because, that doesn't work with me.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

13. Who's the source for the photos?!

[nonny]

34. Source = Digital Globe

This is printed on the right side of each photo.
Going to the Digital Globe site for North Korea photos gives a Yongbyon, North Korea picture, Imagery collected September 29, 2004
Link:
http://www.digitalglobe.com/north_korean_gallery.html

Picture can be downloaded.

Maybe CNN goofed and worked with the wrong picture... or not.
Deception? or just Stupidity?

:shrug:

[Skinner]

40. It appears to be stupidity.

There is a post by OKNancy below where she proves that this was not deliberate deception.

[pinniped]

15. Sure, that's the standard blueprint for an 'axis of evil' nuke facility.

That's why they're identical.

Guess I won't be seeing this in the morning paper.

[screembloodymurder]

20. Unbelievable!!!

These guys should be hung in Times Square and flogged.

[Massachusetts]

24. Control=Keep the masses frightened and confused

Tyranny.....Yup!

[supernova]

25. Oy, someone is getting paid

to use this one nuclear plant.

Did it show up in Iraq too? :eyes:

[Skinner]

26. Good catch.

My guess is that this was a mistake by someone over at CNN. But you never know. Just in case they cover their asses and take it down, here are a couple screen shots:

[IndianaGreen]

28. I wonder if they used the same picture with an Iraq caption

two years ago to frighten the American public? We could be seeing the same picture being used for Venezuela and Cuba!

Thanks for the screen capture, Skinner.

[RebelOne]

30. Looks like they took it down.

No mention of either story.

[OKNancy]

31. "Properties"

On the North Korea photo show



oops - on edit took out http:// at beginning to get text

i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/story.suspected.site.iran.jpg

[Skinner]

32. Ah, yes. You are correct.

This is clearly a screw-up of some web developer at CNN. I double-checked the properties of the NK photo and found the same thing:

i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/story.suspected.site.iran.jpg

[Guaranteed]

47. Yeah, but the caption itself pushes the photo as a

North Korean nuke plant.

This can be explained with stupidity, but it's not just a web mess-up...it's a big STORY mess-up, at the very least.

And it seems pretty deliberate, to me.

We need to keep an eye on CNN TV to see if they push that photo on the air as being from N. Korea...

[Skinner]

51. If it were deliberate deception...

...CNN would have changed the filename of the picture to cover their tracks. They didn't. They left their "deception" out for the world to see.

Granted, I think CNN should not have made a mistake like this in the first place. But the evidence shows that this was not done deliberately.

[Renew Deal]

49. How do you explain the zooming in on the second photo?

This stinks of deception. Maybe it's just laziness, but it stinks!

[Skinner]

53. It's neither deception nor laziness.

It's just a mistake. The fact that there is zooming does not change that.

[Occulus]

75. You know, though, just the fact we have to ASK.... sheesh... n/t

[No Exit]

44. Now we see how easy it is to fool the general public.

Not all of them are stupid; some of them just don't happen to read the news on the internet as much as we do.

Frankly, I DO read the news on the internet, daily, and I'd have probably been fooled by this if Bradblog and the posters here hadn't pointed it out.

We need to MAKE people understand that governments and media DO lie.

What's REALLY funny (but also sad in a way) is the way so many people dismiss theories (such as 9/11 being an inside job), claiming they are "ridiculous", yet swallow shit like THIS on a daily basis.

Most people are uninformed. The stupid people are the ones that refuse to question what comes down from the powers-that-be; the stupid people are the ones who refuse to even entertain a thought that is outside their ingrained mode of thinking.

[paineinthearse]

60. The two links are identical.

The photos, captions & links (http removed).

A. Iran

://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/story.suspected.site.iran.jpg


Satellite image of a suspected Iranian nuclear-related facility.

B. N. Korea

://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/story.suspected.site.iran.jpg


An aerial photo of North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear plant outside of Pyongyang.

Now, was this intentional or just an editorial error?

[Tyler Durden]

33. Hey Boss! Send this to "The Memory Hole!"

Not that it will do any good anymore here in the United Snakes of America, but then we can say to history that we tried.


When somebody re-crops a photo and re-names a file, I think volition, not accident.

[ConcernedCanuk]

41. Well, SOMEONE didn't make a mistake -

.
.
.

The latest pic purportedly from Iran, has text ADDED on top of the "original" pic purportedly from NK

The pic below is from screenshots I took from CNN itself, not the pix you posted here - but obviously the same pix/stories:



Note the text on top of the image, middle left on the "Iran" photo

And the "credit" to DIGITAL GLOBE is in the exact same spot, the exact same dimensions on the right lower half of each image

AND - IF one believes this is an "error" at CNN, wouldn't one have to question the person who released the article? - I mean checking up on the validity/authenticity of photos of this nature when the US is at WAR should be priority #1!

Wonder if the WH "leaked" these photos?

:shrug:

[Skinner]

54. It was an error at CNN.

Someone just dropped the wrong picture into the NK article. Here is the filename for the picture in the NK article:

i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/story.suspected.site.iran.jpg

It says "iran.jpg". If this were deliberate, they would have changed the file name to something like "story.suspected.site.nkorea.jpg"

[ConcernedCanuk]

61. Why the cropping and added text then? - and who did that?

.
.
.

And one is described as a satellite image,

the other as an aerial photo - that's from airplanes, no?

AS much as I value your judgment and opinions Skinner,

The United States mainstream media and the WH have just TOO many convenient "mistakes", "misunderstandings" and "misspoken" happenings.

So, not your fault, but I'm not convinced yet that SOMEONE is deceiving/tried to deceive us regarding these photos.

By the way

Where ARE them WMDs? :freak:

:silly:

[tom_paine]

72. Of course, if Operation Mockingbird still has interns at CNN...

as they got busted for having in 1998 and there is NO reason to think they still don't (in fact, there is every reason to believe things are worse)

then such "mistakes" are PERFECT as Psy Ops. The misleading information is out there, all that is necessary to misled a sheepish and lazy press corps and citizenry, AND CNN has plausible deniability if they get busted.

Just a mistake boys.

Now, where are the actual pictures of the N. Korea reactor?

We'll see if they show up, or if it goes down the Memory Hole like so many others.

"If a person's livelihood depends on them making a 'mistake', then you can expect them to make the same mistake over and over and over..."

[AuntiBush]

103. Un-believable!

Un fricked-real! Thumbs-up for the screen capture. When will it end? Sadly, when it's too damn late for us all, though our Dem leaders are trying to give us hope.

But, I dunno. Never in my life did I ever think I'd live to see such scandalous, evil-dictatorships take over our country, brainwash the most disenfranchised in our societies, and it's obvious to anyone with half a damn brain and/or common sense the Media is in on it all.

When will the other side wakeup???

:scared:

[NurseLefty]

119. Thanks Brad and Skinner - you are the NEW Justice League!

Bloggers are our new superheroes! GREAT WORK!!
<>

[DoYouEverWonder]

29. I can't wait to hear their excuse

some poor underpaid staffer will probably get the blame for the screw up. Nothing to see here folks, move along now.

[nolabels]

78. I wouldn't be so sure if it is a screw up

What I have noticed with these murderous crooks and hucksters is that they often try to be brazen and controversial as they can get away with. It puts the intimidation factor on their side for people who have knowledge and I think they might get their rocks off doing it that way.

Goes like 'Look what I have done here and got away with. There isn't anybody ever going to be able to stop me baby, I am the man'. That shit eaten grin on *'s face isn't because his depends are still dry, he really is out to do harm to others who cross him.

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. It was an honest mistake.

They meant to say they were both a North Korean plant. :eyes:

That will be their excuse.

[cthrumatrix]

36. the media has zero credibility... they should be SUED for propaganda

[Mika]

38. Won't work - can't sue media for lies

Remember this old story?

Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie.

By Mike Gaddy
Published 02. 28. 03 at 19:31 Sierra Time


On February 14, a Florida Appeals court ruled there is absolutely nothing illegal about lying, concealing or distorting information by a major press organization. The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information. The ruling basically declares it is technically not against any law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort the news on a television broadcast.

On August 18, 2000, a six-person jury was unanimous in its conclusion that Akre was indeed fired for threatening to report the station's pressure to broadcast what jurors decided was "a false, distorted, or slanted" story about the widespread use of growth hormone in dairy cows. The court did not dispute the heart of Akre's claim, that Fox pressured her to broadcast a false story to protect the broadcaster from having to defend the truth in court, as well as suffer the ire of irate advertisers.

Fox argued from the first, and failed on three separate occasions, in front of three different judges, to have the case tossed out on the grounds there is no hard, fast, and written rule against deliberate distortion of the news. The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdock, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves.

In its six-page written decision, the Court of Appeals held that the Federal Communications Commission position against news distortion is only a "policy," not a promulgated law, rule, or regulation.

Fox aired a report after the ruling saying it was "totally vindicated" by the verdict.


© 2003 SierraTimes.com

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/02/28/arpubmg022803.htm

[jbnow]

115. Thanks (I think)

I hadn't seen that...I didn't know.

There are laws about truth in advertising if it's cereal or mouthwash...

But no laws about truth in news (or political ads)?

And they can reviews ads against the SS plan or a church that welcomes all people because they are too controversial, but they accept ads for the plan?

It's scary. The fourth estate is just another branch of the administration and that is protected by law?

[blackspade]

116. You have to be kidding me!

Did this get appealed to the supremes?
So I guess we can pretty much assume that the MSM lies to US all the time.
Just great. Thanks Florida, your idiot judges strike again.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

39. Or at the least incompetence. n/t

[leesa]

42. What do you mean? No crayon drawing this time?

[BRLIB]

48. Be VERY,VERY scared!!! What this is proof of is nuclear

collaboration between 'Axis of Evil' partners on WMD's of identical design in an attempt to 'destabilize' the entire world!!

[Gary173]

50. Satellite photos of N Korean nuclear facility

at Yongbyon dated 9/29/04, 3/2003

http://www.cryptome.org/

Scroll down to Feb 11, 2005

[Newsjock]

55. Why should we believe the labeling on either photo at all?

We were lied into war in Iraq with falsely labeled photos that Colin Powell presented to the United Nations. Just because we're told that these are Evil Nuclear Sites, what's not to say that they're something entirely different and more benign?

A satellite photo with a scary narration must no longer be our reason to kill.

[Craig3410]

57. I think Comment #5 on the blog sums it up perfectly:

This is Jon Stewart's fault. Since he got so successful everyone's trying to get in on the fake news game.

:eyes:

[oasis]

59. CNN is also guilty of "doctoring" exit poll numbers on election night.

I wouldn't put anything past those Fox News wannabes.

[IceOwl]

62. Wouldn't it be funny...

If the nuclear power plant in the picture was in neither country?

[EarlG]

63. IMPORTANT UPDATE

I just found a story at Radio Free Europe:

North Korea: Six-Way Talks Seen As Neither Success Nor Failure

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2004/03/c942be0e-f698-4677-b73c-b1cba3bc60e6.html

With this picture:



Yup - it's the same photo. So the photo must be from North Korea.

But the filename of the photo is:

rferl.org/images/photo/iraq-nuclear.jpg

So it appears that what's going on here is that there's one photo going around that people are just throwing into articles about <insert axis of evil member here> nuclear sites.

[Skinner]

66. LOL. So now it's North Korea, Iran, AND Iraq.

Indeed. It appears that something strange is going on here.

[EarlG]

67. Here it is again!

This time it's in Iran:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp%3Fid%3Dns99993481&h=126&w=120&sz=5&tbnid=jfUcIDSZRLIJ:&tbnh=84&tbnw=80&start=15&prev=/images%3Fq%3Diraq%2Bnuclear%2Bsatellite%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

[trogdor]

82. I remember this pic with a bunch of trucks in the road.

Somewhat different orientation. The idea was that Saddam was moving shit around ahead of the inspectors.

This could have been a picture of a Wal*Mart distribution center for all we know. Or a suburban office park. Or a college campus. Nobody drives to work in a helicopter, so nobody recognizes this as anything familiar.

[chill_wind]

99. Iraq??

Posted by EarlG

Yup - it's the same photo. So the photo must be from North Korea.

But the filename of the photo is:

rferl.org/images/photo/iraq-nuclear.jpg


And now it's lableled Iraq? Huh?? Bizzare!!

[BradBlog]

111. Great catch EarlG...

...I'll look into that one in the morning and see if we can get to the bottom of what the hell is going on here. Thanks much.

Still trying to get someone (anyone!) at CNN to cop to what happened.

Have updated the original BRAD BLOG item a bit:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001187.htm

...and will continue to do so tomorrow if I'm able to get any answers.

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

[BradBlog]

120. New BRAD BLOG Story picks up on your discovery!

Updated info, with some help from EarlG, on this bizarre turn of events now at:
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001189.htm

Turns out the site EarlG came across is a U.S. Government Funded site!

Curiouser and curiouser? Or clearer and clearer?

Brad
The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

[nonny]

122. Same photo on CNN -- Iran

This article was from Feb. 2003 (year before RFE/RL)
Looks like same photo, different angle.

Inspectors visit Iran nuclear site

From CNN Correspondent Kasra Naji
Friday, February 21, 2003 Posted: 9:10 PM EST (0210 GMT)



http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/21/iran.nuclear/

[SmokingJacket]

64. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss this as an "innocent" error

At a certain point, looseness with the facts -- oh, grab any old picture, don't bother checking the properties! -- becomes a deliberate tactic to blur reality. Iran, N. Korea... well, they're all the same, right? We don't bother distinguishing, because you don't need to distinguish.

An innocent error, my foot: NOT checking to make sure you have the right picture is a deliberate decision. They ARE going to play fast and loose with reality -- it's corporate policy.

[nolabels]

83. Exactly, I still haven't figured out why more people...........

have noticed this about this current crop of crooks we have. Royalties and empires often did this throughout history to exercise the power they felt they had. They would say the sky was green and eventually everybody would say the sky is green and the point would become moot.

MOOT POINT

From Nancy Maclaine: “Did the phrase a moot point originally mean ‘a debatable point’? Nowadays it seems to mean ‘an irrelevant point’ or even ‘a point so irrelevant it’s not worth debating’. Some actually have taken to referring to it as a mute point. What’s the history here?”
( ? )

(snip)
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-moo1.htm

[Skinner]

69. OK. I decided to actually go to the source here.

My earlier vigorous defense of CNN notwithstanding, I would agree with those who have argued that this is really shoddy.

I just googled the image source "Digital Globe ISIS" and found this page:

The Iranian Gas Centrifuge Uranium Enrichment Plant at Natanz: Drawing from Commercial Satellite Images

http://www.isis-online.org/publications/iran/natanz03_02.html

Which includes this picture, among others:



It is Iran. But lazy/inept journalists at CNN and elsewhere don't really care enough to check.

[jasop]

87. This is NOT about lazy/inept journalists...

jesus fucking christ!! Is everyone, including Skinner scared to tell the truth when the facts are right in front of us? This is blatant propaganda and psyops in action. Unfortunately for the Nazi-Busholini Regime there are a few people who are too intelligent, BUT fortunately for them the intelligent people are few and far between.

[txaslftist]

97. Wait a sec...how can it be in Iran? Two sources above say Korea?

[BlueEyedSon]

71. kick

[Rose Siding]

73. Adorable headline: "Kay, Carter urge caution on Iran"

Yes, guys, everyone will be way more careful to get every detail right THIS time. That last sloppy run-up to war was disastrous, but it was just practice really. Wail til you see how PERFECTLY awful this one will be! :eyes:

[Stand and Fight]

74. Jesus Christ...

These sorry SOBs will sink to any level... What a cluster of gaggle fucks we've in charge of things. This is scary indeed because they will probably end up getting away with it -- just like they have got away with all their other massive crimes.

[sarcasmo]

79. This is classic, let's use the same photo for two different wars, LMFAO.

[AnneD]

80. Really

This is a mobile nukler power plant that Sadam put on the market just before the UN inspectors conducted the last weapons search. It comes with a 90 day trial period. You can test it before you buy it. If you look very closely you can see the broken red IAEA tag and lock from the first Gulf war inspectors. That's why we didn't find the WMD'S. Jeez, can't you all git it rite.....:dunce:

[Stirk]

81. CNN Breaking News: Kim Jong Il Building Invasion Force

As seen in this photo from North Korea:

[kitkat65]

84. Who'd have thought those puzzles in Highlights for Children

would hone our skills needed for something like this?

Can you find the monkey eating the ice cream cone?

(Sorry, off topic, but thought you'd enjoy some levity.)

[MADem]

110. Hahahahaha!!!

(That was an ICE CREAM CONE!!!???? Who knew???)

[nonny]

123. I loved those puzzles!

:bounce:

[KansDem]

85. Perhaps N. Korea and Iran use the same nuclear plant designer?

I mean, all McDonalds look alike, right? And WalMarts.

So maybe the same designer of nuclear plants was used?

Just a thought...

[Pithy Cherub]

88. Good Grief! beyond sloppy to journalistic malpractice...

cnn playing 'where's waldo's nuclear facility'? And the answer is pick a country, any country?

[frankly_fedup2]

89. Well, time to get the sketch pad out boys . . .

Who needs a stinkin picture. Get the same person that did the sketches for Colon Powell to present at the U.N.

This is Bush's America. We don't need proof, we don't need pictures, and we don't need anyone elses' opinions. We don't even need enough military to go to war with one country. Why should Bush care about anything but "our freedom."

By the way, which picture is right? Anyone know? Is the picture an actual picture from Iran? Is it from Korea?

I do not think they have used this picture before or it would have been used for Iraq. Hmmmm, anyone remember any REAL pictures from Iraq????

[demnan]

91. Thanks for catching this, Brad

It doesn't surprise me that the MSM would use false information to pursuade us that the monkey-in-thief is telling the truth.

[Redleg]

92. Bomb 'em all- let God sort 'em out!

Boosh doesn't even know Iran and North Korea are different countries.

[RaleighNCDUer]

93. Well, obviously the damned Russkies designed them both.

That's why they're identical.

Nuke Moscow!

[Bouncy Ball]

94. Wow, AGAIN a blogger catches

a major media outlet in a HUGE boo-boo.

What the HELL? It makes me wonder just how long the media has been pulling this shit.

God Bless the Bloggers, the REAL journalists of the 21st century.

(That is scary that they used the same damn photo. Even if it was sheer laziness, that is unforgiveable and back in the day, whoever was responsible for that would be fired without another word.)

[txaslftist]

98. 'Scuze me for being skeptical...

But that image looks like a plain gravel/stone quarry to me.

We used to fly over a large quarry every time I flew into Milwaukee, and the excavation in the upper corners of this photo look just like that stone and gravel quarry. Not to say that its not what they say it is, but every item in that photo is consistent with the mining, processing and distribution of stone and gravel.

[phusion]

100. Correction on CNN's North Korea page

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/index.html

"An earlier version of this article included an image that was incorrectly identified as an aerial photograph of North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear plant. The photo was actually a commercial satellite photo of a nuclear facility near Natanz, Iran."

[Skinner]

101. CNN has changed the photo.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/12/nkorea.nukes.ap/index.html

[sniffa]

104. they issued a correction too

CORRECTION
An earlier version of this article included an image that was incorrectly identified as an aerial photograph of North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear plant. The photo was actually a commercial satellite photo of a nuclear facility near Natanz, Iran.

[txaslftist]

106. Are they going to attribute the correction to those who caught it?

Or just try to make us think they caught it on their own?

[TheModernTerrorist]

124. still...

this still works towards the laziness of CNN editors. I'm quite familiar with the layout of their site, and all they did was essentially "label" the picture wrong. The article never really points to the picture and says "this here is the photo", though it is implied. The editor then throws a crappy caption on the photo that says "Photo of N. Korean nuke facility" and bingo! You've got an article. Most of what I've been readin on here makes it sound as if it's a big propaganda piece, when I really think it was just lazy editors who could give a rat's ass if they incorrectly label a .gif wrong or not. Still, it IS quite silly to think that your "#1 Name in News" could be the head of so many misleading pieces...

Our MSM is shameful...

[singe]

102. nuclear plant photos

i just want to say brilliant work brad and thanks a million! the main stream media have been on their knees in front of the neocons for so long they can't even see the forest or the trees...lets see if cnn's shitzer makes a comment about this ridiculous state of affairs...

[Renew Deal]

108. kick

:kick:

[ultraist]

113. Well done! I heard this reported today on CNN. lol

[baron j]

114. Maybe they should send Special Ops Cody

to infiltrate and investigate this matter. Or has Cobra Commander and Destro not released him for ransom yet?

[lonestarnot]

117. Yes I noticed this also... but figured everyone knew.

[fat free goodness]

118. Not the same photo anymore. Over reacting?

I just looked at the photos for the first time, and they are not remotely the same. (One of the photos does not match the one on the blog.) Also, both the photos now shown are attributed to Digital Globe / ISIS.
But consider. The photos provide no information or proof of anything since we already know that both NC and Iran do have nuclear facilities, and it is obviously simple to provide real photos of the sites in question. It seems likely to me that what we have is either a stupid mistake (now corrected), amazingly lazy journalism, or (likely) both.
I don't really see any advantage to either the administration or the news agency in deliberately faking the photos.
It’s like reporting on drug deal that took place in the parking lot of a McDonald's, and showing the wrong McDonald's parking lot… yeah, it’s wrong, but so what? It does not affect the story at all.

So I suspect that proposing a conspiracy based on these photos is a bit of an overreaction.

[hector459]

121. Yeah, like the overreaction to the photos Powell used at the UN?

Some people just boggle my mind by the way they try to cover for this administration. It's amazing.