Democratic Party Killing Itself Off (abortion)

[southernleftylady]

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005277
More than 40 million legal abortions have been performed and documented in the 30 years since the U.S. Supreme Court declared abortion legal. The debate remains focused on the legality and morality of abortion. What's largely ignored is a factual analysis of the political consequences of 40 million abortions. Consider:

• There were 12,274,368 in the Voting Age Population of 205,815,000 missing from the 2000 presidential election, because of abortions from 1973-82.

• In this year's election, there will be 18,336,576 in the Voting Age Population missing because of abortions between 1972 and 1986.

• In the 2008 election, 24,408,960 in the Voting Age Population will be missing because of abortions between 1973-90.




wow... i didnt know only democrats had abortions you learn something new everyday :eyes:

[LynneSin]

1. We had a lady write a LTTE to my local paper and blamed abortions on SS

Saying that because we've "killed" over 40mil babies that we've lost all that income for Social Security.

Of course there was no consideration that overpopulation would also be a demise.

:eyes:

[Skidmore]

12. Well, golly gee whiz! Just think of all those babies that remain

unborn because of the pill, the condom, IUD, the rhythm method, and lest we forget--masturbation!

[ladjf]

17. Skidmore, your observation is simple and self-evident.

I'm sure it would irritate the hell out of the "right to life" folks.
Who knows, if they could succeed in baning abortions and contraceptive items they would then try to make it illegal to masturbate. It might be difficult to enforce such legislation. But, they would try. You know that it is already illegal to sell vibrators in the State of Alabama.

[Skidmore]

20. They will try. We're on the fast track back to the

19th century, with no brakes on this freight train and the wheels are coming off. We've got a raving maniac driving the engine, and the rest of the crew is snoozing in the caboose.

[ladjf]

24. I think that their destination is much further back in time than the

19th Century. I believe that they are using the "feudal" model with corporations taking the place of the feudal barons, the workers are the peasants, the govt. has the same type relationship with the "aristocracy" that they did in feudal times. And of course, there's the religious hierarchy, always maneuvering to get control over the souls of the peasants.

On that last point, realize that the right wing plan to do away with all social "safety nets" i.e. SS, Medicare, medicate and other social program, replacing that with church based charities, meaning that the needy will have to affiliate with the church to receive help.

I call this movement "neofeudalism" and the practitioners "neo-feudalists".

[displacedtexan]

2. Republicans get private abortions.

Those don't get counted.

The well-connected (and those who do their dirty work) have always had the benefit of "private reproductive health procedures."

By calling these procedures "female problems," they don't get reported as abortions.

I knew several good Christian girls (pre-1970) who "suffered" from "female problems."

[RC]

3. Oh, yas! And every single one of those aborted children

would other wise have lived through child birth, accidents, disease and genetic problems to grow to the age of 18 and would have voted for george walker bu$h knowing he is the only reason they were not aborted.

[China_cat]

4. I didn't know Democrats

aborted every conception. Is that a rule now? If a Dem gets pregnant she MUST abort?

[Nimrod]

6. Well, yeah!

How else are we supposed to get those blood sacrifices for Satan? I mean, everybody knows how much FUN abortions are. Damn, I wish I had a womb so I could have one!

[Nimrod]

5. ::bangs head on keyboard::

Sweet (THWAP) baby (THWAP) Jesus (THWAP) with (THWAP) tits! (THWAP)

Okay, I think I'm better now. Ow.

[sam sarrha]

7. if the drug companies would develop better birth cotrol insted of HardOn

pills we wouldn't need abortions..

if the Reich wingers would teach the Amsterdam model of sex education.. it would be rare

[Az]

8. Desperation makes people do strange things

Ok so what's our official platform now?

A) Prochoice but friendly to antichoice people.

B) Antichoice but friendly to prochoice people.

C) Eh ... whatever.

D) Both prochoice and antichoice :crazy:

[Lisabtrucking]

9. Funny how they want to cut all programs to help kids eat, and

their parent/parents keep a roof over their heads. How can these people be serious about abortions? No they would rather have thousands of kids living in the street or in orphanages, don't they realize we have enough in the system now. Why don't they worry about these children. Just another reminder how stupid these people think. What? they don't have enough kids in bad situations, not enough living a life of despair. These people are so brain dead it's scary.

[Telly Savalas]

14. Slashing such programs is tough love

By removing all semblance of a social safety net, we force our young children to become self-reliant and independent. The Marxists in the Democratic Party are trying to instigate class warfare with a socialist proposal to grant every American child health insurance. Why should my toddler see the hard-earned fruits of her labor taxed such that a lazy toddler who doesn't want to work gets healthcare handouts? A laissez-faire approach to economic policy promotes the nobility of individualism, as is evidenced by the courage and resolve of orphans in Charles Dickens novels.

Regarding Larry Eastland's brilliant piece in the WSJ, despite his masterful punditry, he fails to take one thing into consideration: any loss in the Democratic voter base from abortion is more than compensated by welfare mothers who have 15 kids such that they can afford the payments on their Cadillacs.

(So how does one go about getting such dreck published in the WSJ and who do I need to talk to about getting my big fat check from the Bush Administration?)

[katinmn]

10. His analysis doesn't stand up.

And I hadn't heard that women were stating party ideology when they went in for their abortions.

Sheesh. Why does anyone even print/post this garbage?

[BlueEyedSon]

11. So wouldn't repubs want to ENCOURAGE abortions? nt

[ComerPerro]

13. Apparently Republicans never have abortions

I did not know that. Hmm.

But then why is it that at every "pro-life" rally there are at least ten women there who "had an abortion but now regret it".

[katinmn]

15. even according to this op ed, 27% of those having abortions

are Conservative/Republicans and 30% are Moderates.

A whopping 48% are Democrats/Liberals.

Again, I ask: is he doing exit polls at the abortion clinics?

Are neocons "pretending" to be liberals until they get their abortion, and then morphing back into being neocons?

edit: spelling

[mattclearing]

16. I've seen this argument before, and it's utter bullshit.

It assumes that Democrats are the only ones having abortions (cause no Republicans would ever be that hypocritical :eyes: ) and that political ideology is passed from parent to child like eye color.

It also assumes that aborted children would have voted, that children raised under extreme duress due to lack of family planning tend to vote, and that those same children would vote as their parents did, which still hinges on that same faulty assumption that Republicans don't get abortions.

Funny...I know several Republicans who have had abortions, and used it as a form of birth control (God forbid!), but almost no Democrats.

The Wall Street Journal is invested in the business of justifying an unjustifiable point of view.

That it has to stretch this far to make its logic seem reasonable is testament to the absurdity of conservative ideas.

[CTyankee]

18. I wonder how many times

we'll see this article regurgitated ("discussed") in the MSM? I can see that wretched Kate O'Beirne with her twisted mouth harping on this on Capitol Gang.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Does Anybody Know The Number B4 Roe v. Wade?

The interesting thing is that this type of rhetoric requires the belief that before the Supreme Court made abortion legal, that the number of abortions performed in 35 years prior was ZERO!

Somehow i don't think the number was zero. So, the real issue is what is the net difference, not the whole number. My guess is that it might be a positive number but NOWHERE NEAR 40 million.

The other thing these troglodytes don't mention is how many fewer miscarriages, especically late term, there have been since prenatal care because such a high focus medical issue. So, the numbers of people missing due to abortion may very well be offset by the numbers who were born because of prenatal and neonatal advances.

But, until we compare one set of numbers to the other, these idiots can keep trotting out that 40 million number without being challenged.
The Professor

[charlie]

21. Those numbers can only be true

if every woman in the survey never carried a pregnancy to term after the abortion. If she did have a child later, you can't presume that without the abortion there would've been 2 little Democrats, instead of 1. If she opts for parenthood in the first instance, she might not in the second, perhaps choosing to double down on contraceptives, going for sterilization, or swearing off sex.

[gollygee]

22. This country wants to punish women for enjoying sex

So we will make everything illegal that allows women to enjoy sex.

No abortions or contraception - the only appropriate birth control methods are abstinence and "the rhythm method" which coincidentally doesn't let you have sex when your hormones allow you to enjoy it the most.

[annabanana]

23. abortion numbers are pretty consistant...legal and safe, or illegal

and deadly. These kids weren't going to be here anyway. And I'll bet if there were any way to tally up the political bent of those women having the procedure, the poorest, most desperate, most abused, ignorant and repressed are more likely to conceive a child they are unable to raise.

[Walt Starr]

25. I thought abortion rates were highest in Red States

Go figure.