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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:45 AM
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Freepers Frothing Over Alan Keyes' Lesbian Daughter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342713/posts

This thread once and for all demonstrates how mentally ill many of them are.

Question:

To all of them who posted that they too would throw a gay child out of the house and cut off communication with them, because homosexuality is a "sin," would they also cut off communication with a child who gets divorced? Major "sin" there, divorce, you know.

The hypocrisy over there is mind boggling.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:47 AM
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1. Real nice...
To: RWR8189
Thank the Lord for godly parents like Alan Keyes and others who understand the depth of this issue.

7 posted on 02/14/2005 1:00:23 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)

:eyes:
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:29 PM
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33. But yet Jeff Gannon, conservativeguystudmuffin is A-OK?
and so was Pim Fortuyn who openly advocated for sex with small children
(and was probably killed for just that.)

Mary Cheney is welcome at
the house of her lesbian-leaning mom Lynn
as is the guy who gaily man-smooched Lieberman
to demonstrate the State of the Closet.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:48 AM
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2. lol, Half the freepers are closet homosexuals.
Let those losers go nuts. Maybe some of them will even get banned.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:52 AM
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4. That would explain their fixation on guns
We know what Freud would say.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:52 AM
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3. I smell blood
They are unhappy and demoralized. Let's pounce. We'll divide them and conquer. Time to revel in wicked delight in their misery. Now Keyes will have to answer to them and it won't be easy. I am interested in how he will explain himself. Considering that some of their very theories suggest that a lesbian must have had an overbearing father. I'd love to take their own words and beat them over the head with them. Jackals.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:52 AM
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5. This quote KILLS me...
What a shame and embarrassment she is to a man of high character and honor, she was brought up to know the truth, and only the truth will set her free. She can't love her parents that much or she would have stayed in the closet.



11 posted on 02/14/2005 1:19:16 AM PST by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)



BWA HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! What a fucking dipshit!!!!! :D
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:02 AM
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13. Oh now that's just sad
If she loved her parents she'd stay in the closet? That's heartbreaking.

If her parents loved her, they'd be glad she isn't living in the closet so she can be happy.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:13 AM
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18. It's a laugh or cry situation.
I'd rather laugh at how retarded they are, personally.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:53 AM
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6. OH my G-g-g-g-god...
How scary are they? Who ARE those people? Maybe it's because I live in Southern California, but most Republicans I know personally are not THAT hate-filled and homophobic. They may be against gay marriage, but they aren't in favor of disowning your gay child.

They just get the worst of the worst on that site, don't they?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:09 AM
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15. They are the republican party. Every moderate republican empowers
these people. Many people who vote republican fail to understand this fact.
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:28 AM
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28. Not so fast my friend
Many moderate Republicans don't necessarily vote Republican/neocon. The ones that do automatically vote a straight ticket enable the neocons, but many of us don't anymore.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:36 PM
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34. Even Goldwater endorsed a Democratic candidate for Congress
when he saw how entrenched in the religious right the opposing Republican candidate was.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:53 PM
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37. I should have made it more clear that I meant to refer to
the automatic republican straight ticket voter.
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:07 PM
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38. Fair enough, I understand completely, no offense taken
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:54 AM
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7. They are all a bunch of religious fanatics.
That's my opinion. All they do is quote from the bible.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:58 AM
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11. Many are...
"Homosexuality is a sin. The Bible says so. The Bible is the Word of God. He makes these kinds of decisions."

Ok then!

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:14 AM
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20. God makes decisions so you don't have to!
*cough* SCAPEGOAT!! *cough*
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:18 AM
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27. The Christian Taliban is all they are.
These Ditto heads are a sad lot! Every last one of them!
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:55 AM
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8. I'm most shocked by the fact
that anyone even cares about Alan Keyes anymore... :shrug:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:39 AM
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24. oh, no
he is alive, and well, and up to trouble here in chicago. the illinois republican party is in such mess, there is a vacuum for him to step into.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:55 AM
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9. and she still loves her parents through their hatred towards her
Christ would be proud, but freeps wouldn't understand
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:03 AM
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14. Actually, she moved into her Father's Illinois address to help on his
Carpetbagging Senatorial campaign.

He dumped her on the street when he no longer needed her.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 09:57 AM
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10. Death to the lobster eaters!
Their blood shall be upon them!

Eating shell fish is a sin, you know.

Yet they don't picket the Red Lobster.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:11 AM
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16. Stone the Shrimpists!
And hang the mollusk consumers!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:00 AM
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12. Love your Headline!
Bad Human. Stay in the closet. Repress your urges. Until daddy comes home. First I'll check in at free republic and then daddy and his little girl can play.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:11 AM
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17. Okay, this is how many now?
Phyliss Schlaffley (2*sp?) has a gay son.
The Cheneys have a lesbian daughter.
Some anti-gay nutjob in California(?) named Knight(?) has a gay son.
My extremely conservative and religious uncle has a lesbian daughter (okay so that one's not famous)
Now Keyes.

The argument I've used against my conservative nutjob friends who think the world of these people is that they're either bad parents who obviously can't raise their kids right if they can't stop them from "turning" gay, or it's time to admit that sexual identity is at least partly genetic.

You know, maybe if Phyliss had followed her own advice and stayed home and raised her kids like a woman should instead of gallivanting around the country meddling in politics, her son wouldn't be gay. ;)

TlalocW
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:13 AM
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19. There's tons more
Newt's sister, John Ashcroft's son (rumor has it), Shirley Temple Black's kid (tho she was a moderate Repub), etc
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:24 AM
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22. Doesn't Fred Phelps have a gay son?
:evilgrin:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:54 AM
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29. Outed anti-gay gay people and anti-gay people with gay children
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 12:52 PM by IanDB1
From The Washington Blade:
Conservative leaders, their gay relatives
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2004/10-15/news/national/conkids.cfm

• The late California state Sen. Pete Knight who spearheaded the ultimately
successful Proposition 22 that bans gay marriage in California, has a gay son,
David.

• Phyllis Schlafly, founder of the conservative Eagle Forum, was instrumental in
drafting the Republican Party platform language opposing gay marriage and civil
unions, has a gay son, John.

• President of the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality
Charles Socarides, has a gay son Richard, who was liaison to the gay community
under President Clinton.

• Anti-gay rights and pro-life activist Randall Terry, has a gay son, Jamiel.

• Vice President Dick Cheney’s daughter Mary is a lesbian.

• Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s half-sister Candace is a
lesbian.

• Sadie Fields, state chair of the Christian Coalition of Georgia, who helped
push the constitutional ban on gay marriage, has a gay daughter, Tess.

• Bill Byrne, who was head of the Cobb County Commission in 1993 when it passed
a resolution proclaiming “the homosexual lifestyle” unwelcome in the suburban
Atlanta community, has a lesbian daughter Shannon.

See also:


Rep. Edward L. Schrock-- Outed
http://www.blogactive.com/2004/09/breaking-news-boifromtroy-declares.html


Rep. David Dreier-- Outed, has lesbian daughter
http://www.blogactive.com/2004/08/schrock-faces-accusations-cancels.html
http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/08/083104vaCong.htm
http://www.blogactive.com/2004/09/action-tell-rep-david-dreier-to-speak_08.html
http://www.blogactive.com/2004/09/congressman-david-dreier-votes-for-all_08.html

Drier's Lesbian Daughter
http://www.rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/david_dreier_cynthia_matthews_outed_outing_gay_926.htm


Anti-gay crusader Sadie Fields-- gay daughter
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/
http://www.sovo.com/2004/9-24/news/localnews/coalition.cfm
http://www.tampabaycoalition.com/files/DATBNewsArchivesSeptember04.htm


Right Wing Press upset with gays in George Allen's Office and the National
Republican Senatorial Committee.
http://blogactive.c.topica.com/maacWO8abclXmcgaT9NeafpOcn/
http://blogactive.c.topica.com/maacWO8abcmY9cgaT9NeafpOcn/
http://blogactive.c.topica.com/maacWO8abcm3JcgaT9NeafpOcn/


Alan Keyes-- lesbian daughter
http://blogactive.c.topica.com/maacWO8abcm3JcgaT9NeafpOcn/
http://www.oliverwillis.com/node/view/1822
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/13/politics/main673732.shtml
http://chillinois.blogspot.com/
http://profiles.yahoo.com/dangerousanjul
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KeyesforSenate2004/messages
http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=22913
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=15123&sd=02/12/05-02/14/05
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13900728&BRD=517&PAG=461&dept_id=473182&rfi=6


Dick Cheney-- lesbian daughter, lesbian partner-in-law
www.dearmary.com
www.gaylesbiantimes.com/?id=2431&issue=851
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=15123&sd=02/12/05-02/14/05
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13900728&BRD=517&PAG=461&dept_id=473182&rfi=6


Lynne Cheney-- Lesbian (rumor has it), has lesbian daugher, lesbian
(Lynne Cheney also wrote a novel some say is lesbian soft-porn)
chronotope.com/archives/2004/10/14/22.47.11
www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=18313
groups.msn.com/LesbianLinks/shoebox.msnw
http://www.michfest.com/cgi-local/ubbmisc.cgi?action=findthread&forum=Forum4&number=4&thisthread=000092&go=older


Ken Mehlman-- Outed
www.furl.net/members/andrewh/Gay
www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/23/01614/0635
www.queerday.com/2004/may/
blog.democrats.com/node/2700
www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=426
www.furl.net/members/andrewh/Gay


Charles Socarides-- gay son
www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Charles_Socarides - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
www.iwamatodjishi.com/archives/000004.html
www.exgaywatch.com/xgw/2003/11/exgay_advocate


Newt Gingrich-- lesbian half-sister
snltranscripts.jt.org/94/94onewt.phtml
www.advocate.com/html/stories/820/820_gingrich676.asp
web.mit.edu/activities/thistle/v9/9.05/6newsbits.html
http://www.annonline.com/interviews/960904/biography.html


John Ashcroft-- gay son (rumor has it)
(Can anyone substantiate?)
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=%22John+Ashcroft%27s+son%22+and+is+gay&btnG=Search

Shirley Temple Black-- gay son(?)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005QTA1/gemotrack5-20/ref=nosim
(Sorry, I can find nothing compelling showing Shirley was anti-gay or that she
deffinitely had a gay son. Can anyone substantiate?)

Sen. Pete Knight-- gay son
http://www.burntorangereport.com/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=1334
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/8145192.htm
http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3768.html


Bill Byrne-- lesbian daughter
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2004/10-15/news/national/conkids.cfm
http://www.qrd.org/qrd/usa/georgia/1994/cobb.county.update-9.94
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/5393/outlist.html


Randall Terry-- gay son
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/144/story_14449_1.html
http://www.exgaywatch.com/xgw/2004/05/randall_terry_a.html
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/144/story_14447_1.html
http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?id=4860
http://margaretcho.net/blog/randallterry.htm

In Progress-- watch for edits

Dick Gephardt-- lesbian daughter
http://www.ecinc.org/Records/rec_fall2003.htm

See also:

When Sexuality Undercuts A Family's Ties
Washington Post - Feb 12, 2005
... During his failed campaign last fall against Barack Obama (D) for the
Illinois Senate seat, Alan Keyes lashed out at Mary Cheney, the lesbian
daughter of Vice ...
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=15123&sd=02/12/05-02/14/05

Richard Orr column: Religious zealotry might be getting a little ...
Plainview Daily Herald, TX - Feb 6, 2005
... Lady Lynne Cheney complained about its contents, despite the fact she plays
no official role in the administration and is the mother of Mary Cheney - a
lesbian ...


An open letter to the president
Arizona Republic, AZ - Feb 5, 2005
I was sorry to see sexual orientation become such a divisive issue after the
last debate. I gather Mary Cheney was, too. ... If that doesn't help, ask Mary
Cheney. ...

LookSmart's Furl - The andrewh Gay Archive
... a call from someone offering to secretly photograph the gay son of a ...
high ranking"
gays within the campaign, and asked campaign manager Ken Mehlman—who has ...
www.furl.net/members/andrewh/Gay - 74k - Cached - Similar pages

Daily Kos :: Fundies growing bolder, less tolerant
... You're gonna have a gay son!" You can never be too rich, too thin, or too
cynical. ...
The of course, there is the new head of the RNC, Ken Mehlman. ...
www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/23/01614/0635 - 52k - Cached - Similar pages

Archive - Queer Day
... m not going to comment or provide information on the private activities of
campaign
staff," said Bush campaign manager Ken Mehlman. ... Tyneside dad mourns gay son.
...
www.queerday.com/2004/may/

New Republican Chair Ken Mehlman is Gay | Democrats.com Blog
... who first outed Mehlman. Of course, you won't find Rogers quoted at RNC.org,
where
today's article is called "What They're Saying About Ken Mehlman." I wonder ...
blog.democrats.com/node/2700 - 33k - Feb 12, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

The Blue Lemur - Progressive Politics and Media News » ‘Gay’ ...
... ‘Gay’ Bush-Cheney campaign chair Ken Mehlman is all but certain to ... Two
additional
sources who had been in contact with blogACTIVE.com, which outed Rep. ...
www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=426

Charles Socarides - dKosopedia
Charles Socarides. ... Unsurprisingly, Charles is one of a long line of
homophobic
politicians, activists, and con artists who have a gay relative. ...
www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Charles_Socarides - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

The White Peril: Something in the water?
... son. Charles Socarides, the chief proponent of reparative therapy for
homosexuals, has a gay son. Phyllis Shlafly has a gay son. ...
www.iwamatodjishi.com/archives/000004.html

Ex-Gay Watch: Ex-Gay Advocate Throckmorton Gets TV Facts Wrong
... and family resemble that of Charles Socarides. (Google search.) The doctor
found
an ex-ex-gay man in bed with the doctor's closeted, gay, young-adult son. ...
www.exgaywatch.com/xgw/2003/11/exgay_advocate
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:19 AM
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21. See this related DU thread, too
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:33 AM
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23. They had better look in their own closets to see what they might find.
There are LOTS of Freeper closet filled with all kinds of "sins."
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:44 AM
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25. "It's akin to getting leprosy."
Perhaps this english major freeper will someday have the opportunity to experience leprosy and to observe his own dick falling off.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:15 AM
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26. Fundamentalists choose "faith" over family
Somehow, a few Bible verses aremore important than your own children. Fundies only care about family in the abstract,
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:03 PM
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30. So are you saying that ...
Friendly frolicking frauleins foment frenzied frothing freepers?
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:13 PM
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31. They're Hypocrites
"Let me try to explain this slowly, so any liberals reading can understand it."

buh...duh....ok george...

"Homosexuality is a sin. The Bible says so. The Bible is the Word of God. He makes these kinds of decisions."

What if you're not Christian and don't believe in it's writings? Why do you defend one passage in Leviticus, while ignoring so many others?

"And the fact that certain offspring choose a sinful sexual practice does not reflect on the parents. It's called "Free Will," a concept that is alien to the sheep mentality that pervades liberalism, but one that God allows."

So...you're for 'free will' but you're against letting gay people make their own choices? Shouldn't you be then arguing for gay people to get married so they have 'free will'?

How is 'Free Will' alien to liberalism when the conservatives are the ones who walk to take away choices, while the liberals want to give them choices.

What hypocracy.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:18 PM
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32. Un-fucking-believable!!!!!
"What a shame and embarrassment she is to a man of high character and honor, she was brought up to know the truth, and only the truth will set her free. She can't love her parents that much or she would have stayed in the closet.

Man of high character and honor???

...or she would have stayed in the closet????

I'm speechless.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:39 PM
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35. Either this poster is being sarcastic or just insane
To: RWR8189


What a shame and embarrassment she is to a man of high character and honor, she was brought up to know the truth, and only the truth will set her free. She can't love her parents that much or she would have stayed in the closet.
11 posted on 02/14/2005 1:19:16 AM PST by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 12:39 PM
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36. The truth about their kind of family values
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 12:40 PM by Book Lover
Shining in the light for all to see and jeer at. To turn their daughter out of the family... Dogs have better values.

on edit - and I'm insulting dogs when I compare them to these humans. These people don;t know what real "family values" are and never will. Thick and thin, people... thick and thin. It's not just for your wedding vows.
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