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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:06 AM
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"Discussion of Contracting Policies in Iraq" on C-Span ...NOW
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 10:07 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
this should be interesting...Sen Dorgan speaking 1st
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:08 AM
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1. I'm watching too.
:)
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:14 AM
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2. Halliburton charges for 42,000 meals a day when only 14,000 are used
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 10:19 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
and Halliburton charged double for hand towels because they wanted their logo "halliburton" embroidered on to them WTF???

"millions of dollars being passed around in brown paper bags with no oversight and no accounting"

Sen. Harry Reid "They are hauling plane loads of cash into Iraq and no one is accounting for it"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:26 AM
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3. This is unreal. I wish this would air
so every American can see and hear what a fucked up admin this really was and is. All the waste and non-accountability is breathtaking.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:27 AM
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4. Waxman: "millions $ was handed over to pay for 6,680 Iraq guards but.....
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 10:33 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
only 602 guards could be found."

"25,000 lbs of nails were abandoned and are sitting in a dump somewhere in Iraq because they were the wrong size"
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:08 AM
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12. Just think what an "insurgent" Iraqi could do with 25,000 lbs of nails...
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 11:08 AM by KansDem
wrapped around a glob of high explosives...

It boggles the mind just before it rips and shreds the body...

nail bomb
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:36 AM
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5. Kick-tune in if you can! nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:48 AM
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6. Hired Guns
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 10:51 AM by seemslikeadream
from a post by Tinoire


<snip>

Business has been booming for Blackwater, which now owns, as its press release boasts, "the largest privately-owned firearms training facility in the nation." Jackson told the Guardian, "We have grown 300 percent over each of the past three years and we are small compared to the big ones. We have a very small niche market, we work towards putting out the cream of the crop, the best."

The practice of using mercenaries to fight wars is hardly new, but it is becoming increasingly popular in recent years. During the first Gulf War, one out of every 50 soldiers on the battlefield was a mercenary. The number had climbed up to one in ten during the Bosnian conflict. Currently there are thousands of Bosnian, Filipino and American soldiers under contract with private companies serving in Iraq. Their duties range from airport security to protecting Paul Bremer, the head of the Coalition Provisional Authority.

Apart from Chile, the other popular source for military recruits is South Africa. The United Nations recently reported that South Africa "is already among the top three suppliers of personnel for private military companies, along with the UK and the US." There are more than 1,500 South Africans in Iraq today, most of whom are former members of the South African Defense Force and South African Police.

According to the Cape Times, among the South African companies under contract with the Pentagon are Meteoric Tactical Solutions, which "is providing protection and is also training new Iraqi police and security units," and Erinys, a joint South African-British company, which "has received a multimillion-dollar contract to protect Iraq's oil industry," the Cape Times reported.

<snip>

It is also only a matter of time before U.S. soldiers grow unhappy with the presence of mercenaries in their midst. The high salaries and shorter terms of employment offered to mercenaries will inevitably make a serious dent on the military's budget. As Blackwater's Jackson acknowledged in the Guardian, "If they are going to outsource tasks that were once held by active-duty military and are now using private contractors, those guys are looking and asking, 'Where is the money?'"

<snip>

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18193

http://www.alternet.org/story/18193
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In a brief but intense firefight, Thomas hit one of the attackers with a single shot from his M4 carbine at a distance he estimates was 100 to 110 yards.

He hit the man in the buttocks, a wound that typically is not fatal. But this round appeared to kill the assailant instantly.

“It entered his butt and completely destroyed everything in the lower left section of his stomach ... everything was torn apart,” Thomas said.

Thomas, a security consultant with a private company contracted by the government, recorded the first known enemy kill using a new — and controversial — bullet.

The bullet is so controversial that if Thomas, a former SEAL, had been on active duty, he would have been court-martialed for using it. The ammunition is “nonstandard” and hasn’t passed the military’s approval process.

<snip>
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2426405.php


You can watch a Streaming video of this blended-metal bullet technology taken at the 2003 Shoot-out at Blackwater on the manufacturer's site here:
http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/bullets /


The ammo that Thomas used was a so-called “blended-metal-technology” round, manufactured by RBCD of San Antonio and distributed by LeMas Ltd. of Little Rock, Ark. For the past four years, RBCD has been featured during AFJ’s annual “Shoot-out at Blackwater” training center (August AFJ), where the ammo’s unique performance has impressed most of the special operators observing its effects. Designed to release maximum energy in soft tissue, the “armor-piercing limited penetration” ammo will bore through hard targets, such as steel and glass, but will not pass through a person or even several layers of drywall. ((watch the video to see what they mean by "will not pass through a person))

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/bullets /
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I've been in Falluja when the entire city has been under collective punishment, which occurs nearly everytime someone attacks a U.S. patrol there. People are enraged, and rightly so. So when one of those white, shiny SUV's with the big black antenna drives by with guys with crew cuts in them wearing body armor holding guns (yes, it is THAT obvious and easy to see), what do you think might happen to them?

The other reason I bring this up is because of this: Last night I'm going through customs at the airport in Amman, and I find myself standing in line behind five men with crewcuts and their 'handler', a little bit older fellow from Turkey (I saw his passport). The men were all in their late 20s, to late 30s I'd say, and from their discussion had all been in Iraq before.

They wouldn't tell me who they were working for, but when they were lugging huge plastic boxes with locks on them off the baggage belt, then went and hopped into their nice, white SUV, it was pretty much a no-brainer.

Blackwater Security Consulting won a $35.7 million contract to train over 10,000 soldiers from several states in the U.S. in the art of 'force protection,' according to Mother Jones magazine. They also hire mercenaries from South Africa and other countries as well, and the pay in Iraq is $1,000 per day. Wonder how that makes our soldiers feel, who make barely over that each month?

http://electroniciraq.net/news/1435.shtml

Blackwater signed a $35.7 million contract with the Pentagon to train more than 10,000 sailors from Virginia, Texas, and California each year in "force protection." Other contracts are so secret, says Blackwater president Gary Jackson, that he can't tell one federal agency about the business he's doing with another.

<snip>

In recent months, private military companies have also played a key role in preparing for a war with Iraq. They supply essential support to military bases throughout the Persian Gulf, from operating mess halls to furnishing security. They provide armed guards at a U.S. Army base in Qatar, and they use live ammunition to train soldiers at Camp Doha in Kuwait, where a contractor, whose company ran a computer system that tracks soldiers in the field, was killed by terrorists last January. They also maintain an array of weapons systems vital to an invasion of Iraq, including the B-2 bomber, F-117 stealth fighter, Apache helicopter, KC-10 refueling tanker, U-2 reconnaissance plane, and the unmanned Global Hawk reconnaissance unit. In an all-out war against Saddam Hussein, the military was expected to use as many as 20,000 private contractors in the Persian Gulf That would be 1 civilian for every 10 soldiers-a 10-fold increase over the first Gulf War.

Indeed, the Bush administration's push to privatize war is swiftly turning the military-industrial complex of old into something even more far-reaching: a complex of military industries that do everything but fire weapons. For-profit military companies now enjoy an estimated $100 billion in business worldwide each year, with much of the money going to Fortune 500 firms like Halliburton, DynCorp, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon. Secretary of the Army Thomas White, a former vice chairman of Enron, "has really put a mark on the wall for getting government employees out of certain functions in the military," says retired Colonel Tom Sweeney, professor of strategic logistics at the U.S. Army War College. "It allows you to focus your manpower on the battlefield kinds of missions."

<snip>

The use of private military companies, which gained considerable momentum under President Clinton, has escalated under the Bush administration. "There has been a dramatic increase in the military's reliance on contractor personnel to provide a wide range of support services for overseas operations," one Washington law firm advises its defense-company clients in a recent briefing paper. "In addition, the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, resulted in a rapid expansion of U.S. military activity in many areas of the globe, and President Bush's ongoing war on terrorism will likely require even greater contractor support for military operations in the future."

<snip>
http://www.house.gov/schakowsky/article_05_05_03soldiers.html

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The current business boom is in Iraq. Blackwater charges its clients $1,500 to $2,000 a day for each hired gun. Most security contractors, like Blackwater's teams, live a comfortable if exhausting existence in Baghdad, staying at the Sheraton or Palestine hotels, which are not plush but at least have running water. Locals often mistake the guards for special forces or CIA personnel, which makes active-duty military troops a bit edgy. "Those Blackwater guys," says an intelligence officer in Iraq, ]"they drive around wearing Oakley sunglasses and pointing their guns out of car windows. They have pointed their guns at me, and it pissed me off. Imagine what a guy in Fallujah thinks." Adds an Army officer who just returned from Baghdad, "They are a subculture."

<snip>

At the Pentagon, which has encouraged the outsourcing of security work, there are widespread misgivings about the use of hired guns. A Pentagon official says the outsourcing of security work means the government no longer has any real control over the training and capabilities of thousands of U.S. and foreign contractors who are packing weapons every bit as powerful as those belonging to the average G.I. "These firms are hiring anyone they can get. Sure, some of them are special forces, but some of them are good, and some are not. Some are too old for this work, and some are too young. But they are not on the U.S. payroll. And so they are not our responsibility."
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,607775,00.html

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Because the Geneva Convention expressly bans the use of mercenaries -- individual soldiers of fortune who fight solely for personal gain -- private military companies are careful to distance themselves from any associations with such hired guns. To emphasize their experience and professionalism, many firms maintain websites brimming with colorful PR material; the industry even funds an advocacy group, the International Peace Operations Association, which portrays military firms as more capable and accountable than the Pentagon. "These companies want to run a professional operation," says the group's director, Doug Brooks. "Their incentive is to make money. How do you make money? You make sure you don't screw up."

When the companies do screw up, however, their status as private entities often shields them -- and the government -- from public scrutiny. In 2001, an Alabama-based firm called Aviation Development Corp. that provided reconnaissance for the CIA in South America misidentified an errant plane as possibly belonging to cocaine traffickers. Based on the company's information, the Peruvian air force shot down the aircraft, killing a U.S. missionary and her seven-month-old daughter. Afterward, when members of Congress tried to investigate, the State Department and the CIA refused to provide any information, citing privacy concerns. "We can't talk about it," administration officials told Congress, according to a source familiar with the incident. "It's a private entity. Call the company."

The lack of oversight alarms some members of Congress. "Under a shroud of secrecy, the United States is carrying out military missions with people who don't have the same level of accountability," says Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), a leading congressional critic of privatized war. "We have individuals who are not obligated to follow orders or follow the Military Code of Conduct. Their main obligation is to their employer, not to their country."

Private military companies emphasize their patriotism and expertise, positioning themselves as a sort of corporate battalion staffed by ex-soldiers who remain eager to serve their country. Military Professional Resources Inc., one of the largest and most prestigious firms, boasts that it can call on 12,500 veterans with expertise in everything from nuclear operations to submarine attacks. MPRI deploys its private troops to run Army recruitment centers across the country, train soldiers to serve as key staff officers in the field, beef up security at U.S. military bases in Korea, and train foreign armies from Kuwait to South Africa. At the highest echelons, the Virginia-based firm is led by retired General Carl Vuono, who served as Army chief of staff during the Gulf War and the U.S. invasion of Panama. Assisting him are General Crosbie Saint, former commander of the U.S. Army in Europe; Lt. General Harry Soyster, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency; and General Ron Griffith, former Army vice chief of staff.

<snip>

The companies don't rely on informal networking alone, though. They also pour plenty of money into the political system -- especially into the re-election war chests of lawmakers who oversee their business. An analysis by Mother Jones shows that 17 of the nation's leading private military firms have invested more than $12.4 million in congressional and presidential campaigns since 1999.
<snip>

The firms also maintain platoons of Washington lobbyists to help keep government contracts headed their way. In 2001, according to the most recent federal disclosure forms, 10 private military companies spent more than $32 million on lobbying. DynCorp retained two lobbying firms that year to successfully block a bill that would have forced federal agencies to justify private contracts on cost-saving grounds. MPRI's parent company, L-3 Communications, had more than a dozen lobbyists working on its behalf, including Linda Daschle, wife of Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle. Last year L-3 won $1.7 billion in Defense Department contracts.
<snip>
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/05/ma_365_01.html



From a United Nations report to the General Assembly:

UNITED NATIONS

General Assembly
Distr.
GENERAL

A/50/390
29 August 1995
ENGLISH
ORIGINAL: ENGLISH/FRENCH/
SPANISH

Fiftieth session
Item 106 of the provisional agenda*

RIGHT OF PEOPLES TO SELF-DETERMINATION

Use of mercenaries as a means of violating human rights
and impeding the exercise of the right of peoples to
self-determination


72. It is the Special Rapporteur’s belief — and this view is generally shared by the first meeting of experts — that one of the new forms of mercenary activity is that which takes place through private security companies that hire out military services, using mercenaries for that purpose. The fact that international legal texts do not refer to this modality has facilitated its rapid expansion. At the same time, the proliferation of mercenaries hired by companies and their participation in armed conflicts, illegal arms traffic, drug traffic and violations of human rights bespeak the need for regulation, control, prevention and oversight of such companies. The United Nations must accordingly assist States in establishing mechanisms to regulate those companies and in harmonizing their national legislation.

<snip>

76. Clearly, international rules refer to States, not enterprises. Consequently, such enterprises can claim that they are not responsible for unlawful acts with which States alone can be charged. Thus, if an enterprise hires mercenaries who commit human rights violations, the enterprise is not responsible and the violations go unpunished.

<snip>

88. The third point concerns payment which is, without any doubt, the defining factor of mercenary status and activity. Mercenaries, particularly those who are hired to participate in combat or to train those who are to make up battalions, columns or commando units are typically individuals who have been in the military or who have received military training, and above all who are former members of special commando or parachute units and have experience in the use of sophisticated weapons. The mere fact that it is a Government that recruits mercenaries, or hires companies that recruit mercenaries, either in its own defence or to provide reinforcements in armed conflicts, does not make such acts any less illegal or illegitimate. Governments are authorized to operate solely under the Constitution and the international treaties to which they are parties. This point of view should be taken into account in a broader legal definition of mercenaries.

http://www.unhchr.ch/huridocda/huridoca.nsf/0/3430C18B2...

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1995/a-50-390.htm
=============

Report on mercenaries presented to human rights commission
United Nations press release HR/CN/764. 14 March, 1997

<snip>

The Special Rapporteur concludes in the document that mercenary activities are a form of violence used in the last 40 years to hamper the exercise the right to self-determination of peoples and to violate human rights. Mercenary activity has been increasing and has been observed in serious criminal activity, including terrorist attacks and drug and arms trafficking.

<snip>

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27a/003.html

=====================

Soldiers for Sale

By Adam Zagorin, Time magazine, Vol. 149, no. 21, 26 May 1997
The Cold War is over, but with demand for military muscle stronger than ever around the world, hired guns are going corporate.


<snip>

<snip> From the suburbs of Washington and Tel Aviv to London and Pretoria, a growing number of competitors are scrambling for contracts that run into millions of dollars, hawking their wares using everything from Websites to slick brochures.

For instance, contracts worth more than $170 million for training Saudi Arabia's national guard and air force have gone to Vinnell Corp. and a sister company, both partly owned by Washington's Carlyle merchant-banking group, whose chairman is former Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci. Military Professional Resources Inc., another capital-area firm, won the business to improve the fighting skills of troops in Bosnia and Croatia. "We offer expertise from the greatest fighting force on earth, the U.S. military," says former Army General Harry Soyster, a vice president at M.P.R.I. M.P.R.I. deploys nothing more lethal than flip charts and Magic Markers. Of course, the firm will gladly show clients how to point and shoot an arsenal of weaponry, ranging from rifles to main battle tanks.

The hard guys are currently employing the hard sell. At a recent arms show in Abu Dhabi, an Executive Outcomes booth quietly competed for business with mercenaries from Britain, France and the U.S. Topflight mercenaries and military consultants, many recruited from elite military units like the U.S. Special Forces, Britain's S.A.S. and Scots Guards and South Africa's 32 Battalion, can command anywhere from about $3,500 a month for enlisted men to $13,000 a month for officers or fighter pilots. That is far more than most of those involved could make wearing a regular-army uniform, and the package is usually topped off with free death-and-disability insurance.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27a/064.html
===

THE TOP HIRED GUNS

Here are some of the outfits that sell their men and arms to companies and governments around the world

EXECUTIVE OUTCOMES
A leader in its field, the firm is mainly staffed by apartheid-era, former South African military officers

VINNELL CORP.
Partly owned by a banking group whose chairman is a former U.S. Secretary of Defense, the Virginia-based firm trains Saudi Arabia's national guard

LEVDAN
The low-key Israeli firm trained troops and bodyguards for Congolese President Pascal Lissouba, who then purchased $10 million worth of Israeli weapons and military equipment

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27a/064.html


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Vinnell Corporation (Northrop Grumman)
12150 East Monument Drive
Suite 800
Fairfax, VA 22033
Phone: (703) 385-4544
http://www.vinnell.com Profile
Company Principals
Board of Directors
Contract History
Political Contributions


Background
Founded in the early 1930s, Vinnell worked on the Los Angeles highway system before it started to expand into military construction during World War II. During the Vietnam War, the company built bases in South Vietnam that it later had to blow up after the United States withdrew from the country. According to The Boston Herald, a Pentagon official called Vinnell "our own little mercenary army" in a 1975 interview with The Village Voice.

Vietnam almost led Vinnell to bankruptcy, but a 1975 contract worth $77 million to train the Saudi Arabian National Guard started a long and lucrative history of involvement in the Middle East.

<snip>

The Vinnell-Brown&Root joint venture had at least six contracts worth nearly $200 million from 1998 to 2002. In addition to the United States, Vinnell and VBR performed work in Egypt, Oman, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Northrop Grumman, the current parent company, had nearly 4,000 contracts worth close to $42.5 billion from 1990 through 2002.

Iraq contracts

Vinnell is responsible for training the New Iraqi Army (NIA). Work on the $48 million one-year contract began July 1, 2003, and is expected to be completed by June 30, 2004. The contract includes a feature called "Not-To-Exceed Cost Ceiling," meaning that Vinnell's total contract invoices for the first six months cannot exceed 50 percent of the contract estimate, or $24,037,221.

<snip>

<snip> Vinnell is using five subcontractors: Military Professional Resources Incorporated (MPRI), Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), Eagle Group International Inc., Omega Training Group, and Worldwide Language Resources Inc. As opposed to Afghanistan, where coalition forces conducted much of the training, the decision to outsource military training in Iraq reportedly was made because U.S. troops are spread too thin.

<snip>

Government ties

Former Democratic congressman Vic Fazio is a senior partner in Clark & Weinstock, a consulting firm. During his time on Capitol Hill, he was a member of the Appropriations Committee, Budget and Ethics Committee and the Armed Services Committee. Fazio was part of the Democratic leadership from 1991 to 1998, rising to the party's third-ranking position as chair of the Democratic Caucus. Fazio has contributed more than $110,000 to mostly Democratic candidates since 1980.
<snip>
http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&ddlC=64



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ALTHOUGH the media repeatedly refers to the men killed in the recent attack in Iraq as 'civilian contractors' they were in fact mercenaries used as part of the US government's outsourcing of jobs too messy, too dull, or too questionable to be carried out by standard troops for whom the president and his aides might be held responsible. These firms include Blackwater, the one involved in the recent incident as well as Dyncorp and the Steele Foundation. The Steele Foundation, the third largest supplier of mercenaries, has 500 troops in Iraq and recently distinguished itself by - depending on who's telling the story - failing to protect Haitian president Aristide from kidnapping by the U.S. government or participating in the act.



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The US government is the major holdout to these international agreements:

(see references for 29 of the 38 listed)


Ottawa Treaty (the land-mine ban)

Treaty on the Rights of the Child (only holdouts are the U.S. and Somalia)

Protocol to enforce the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention (vote was 178-1, the US the only holdout)

United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Convention on Biological Diversity

International Convention on the Protection of the Rights of All Migrant Workers and Members of Their Families

Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants (POPs)

International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings

International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism.

Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees

Convention on the Non-Applicability of Statutory Limitations to War Crimes Against Humanity

Forced Labor Convention

Freedom of Association and Protection of the Right to Organize Convention

Right to Organize and Collective Bargaining Convention

Convention on Consent to Marriage, Minimum Age to Marriage and Registration of Marriages

Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness.

Convention on the International Right of Correction

International Criminal Court

Kyoto Accords (greenhouse gas reductions)

UN Convention on Biological Diversity (regulating genetic engineering)

UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples
Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (prohibiting programs like "Stars Wars")

Basel Convention on the Control of Transboundary Movements of Hazardous Wastes and their Disposal

Convention on the Protection and Use of Transboundary Watercourses and International Lakes

International Convention against the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries

International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid

Convention concerning Minimum Age for Admission to Employment
Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties

Code of Conduct on Arms Transfers (prohibiting sale of arms to human rights violators & aggressors)

Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty

Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, and Other Related Materials

UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (bans toxic waste dumping, etc.)

UN Moon Treaty

Framework Convention on Tobacco Control

UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Protocol to enforce the Convention Against Torture

United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime



http://www.vote.org/list.htm

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International Convention against the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries, 4 December 1989.

The States Parties to the present Convention,

Reaffirming the purposes and principles enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations and in the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations,

Being aware of the recruitment, use, financing and training of mercenaries for activities which violate principles of international law, such as those of sovereign equality, political independence, territorial integrity of States and self-determination of peoples,

Affirming that the recruitment, use, financing and training of mercenaries should be considered as offences of grave concern to all States and that any person committing any of these-offences should be either prosecuted or extradited,

<snip / on on it goes for ye of legal minds & more morality which the US refused to sign in the last 25 years! >
http://www.ilrg.com/subject/lawofwar/15conv-mercenaries.html


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PapaJoe Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:41 AM
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21. Now that was exhaustive and overwhelming.
"The media chased after that dumb 20-year-old Whitewater story (hardly the crime of the century) for 8 years To this day, I still don't know what they were trying to prove exactly. I do know it wasn't that the Clintons and their cronies had scammed billions of dollars from tax payers. Yet now with Bush administration, the media spends little or no effort exposing crimes involving real fraud and corruption even though the schemes are costing tax payers billions of dollars."

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:46 AM
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22. the mafia has taken over --- the press is part of the cover
we have zero transparency....we should quit paying taxes
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:58 AM
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23. WOW ...big bite, i've read most of this but will need time to finish it
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 10:59 AM
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7. OMFG! listen to Alan Grayson testimony "criminal fruad" .........NOW....
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 11:01 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
the transcrpits of this mans testimony MUST be made public....this is CRIMINAL!!! and these ppeople should be in PRISON
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:01 AM
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8. Mind-boggling! And I wonder who the two were
that sent e-mails but wouldn't show up?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:02 AM
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10. who is Custer battles?...or Custer? he is talking about?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:10 AM
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13. Here is some info on them I was able to dig up yesterday
http://www.custerbattles.com/press/pr032203.html

http://www.contractwatch.org/datavault/FOIA.htm

Interesting, one of the principals in Custer Battles was a republican candidate, looks like he was defeated in his primary
http://www.insidepolitics.org/heard/heard110401.html


Fox interview excerpt with Battles:

http://www.custerbattles.com/press/news041904yourworld....

Another interesting addition:

Mike Battles, Mike is a founding partner of the Global Risk Management Firm Custer Battles LLC. He graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point with a BS in Geopolitics. He served over 7 years in the U.S. Army as an Infantry officer in Airborne and Special Operations assignments with extensive service throughout the Balkans and Eastern Europe. After leaving the military, Mike served as an operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency. Mike was also a candidate for the US House of Representatives from Rhode Island. Mike is a visiting lecturer at West Point, a frequent commentator on national security affairs for the FOX NEWS Channel, and an active member of the Council for Emerging National Security Affairs.

http://www.thecamelotgroup.com/mbattles.htm


There is lots more out there, I was just scratching the surface, imo
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:02 AM
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9. Here is a link to their filings re Custer Battles...
I was researching them yesterday and found them:

http://www.taf.org/custerbattles.pdf
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:05 AM
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11. Custer Battles website
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:20 PM
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24. Custer Battles bio.........OMFG!.........
Once Funded by Credit Cards, Custer Battles Garnered Millions in U.S. Contracts Using Gurkhas at the Airport

BAGHDAD, Iraq – Many large, established security companies streamed into Iraq after the war. Then came Custer Battles LLC.

In July last year, Scott Custer and Michael Battles, two former Army Rangers in their mid-30s, found themselves in charge of a $16 million contract to guard Baghdad's airport. Barely funded with credit cards and money borrowed from a friend, their nine-month-old company had neither guns, accountants nor guards. It had to hire Nepalese Gurkhas to staff the project. Since then, the company has squabbled with corporate clients and Pentagon auditors. Four employees have been killed.

But through street smarts and canny use of their military experience, the two New Englanders have become a rarity in Iraq: a U.S. business success story amid the country's haphazard reconstruction. Custer Battles now employs around 700 people and is expanding beyond Iraq's war zone, with plans to get into shrimp farming and home loans. It expects to garner revenue of $200 million next year.
The surge in violence that followed the overthrow of Saddam Hussein provided an opportunity not only for established security firms, but also for the entrepreneurially minded who arrived in Baghdad armed with little more than moxie. The Pentagon estimates that as much as a quarter of the money spent on rebuilding in Iraq goes for security. These companies employ more than 15,000 people and some move about with the freedom of small military units.

"For us, the fear and disorder offered real promise," says Mr. Battles, 34 years old, a onetime bull rider who served three years as a Central Intelligence Agency operative.

The company that became Custer Battles could hardly have sprung from shallower roots. In late 2002, it was still in search of a name. Its co-founders considered Azimuth Partners, after the name of a compass point, but instead chose to name the company after themselves. Mr. Custer, 35, a distant relation of the ill-fated Gen. George Custer, concedes they draw giggles in Iraq, where it's often noted that Custer was defeated by the locals. "We don't really have a comeback," he says.

As the first prospectors poured into Baghdad in mid-2003, Custer Battles was trying to carve out a niche in the security-services industry with a small office in a Washington suburb and some contracts to teach states how to protect drinking-water supplies from terrorist attacks. Money was so tight that Messrs. Custer and Battles put the company's June 2003 payroll on their credit cards and borrowed $10,000 from a friend to fund an exploratory trip to Iraq.

Mr. Battles, a West Point graduate who once ran for Congress, arrived in Baghdad in a cab from Jordan in May 2003. He had $450 in cash and vague plans to open a hotel for foreign businessmen, an idea he soon scrapped.

The real action was at the Republican Palace, the former ceremonial seat of Mr. Hussein's government, where U.S. officials were struggling to form an occupation authority. While passing out his business card in the clogged hallways, Mr. Battles heard about the airport contract and persuaded an official to put Custer Battles on a list of potential bidders. The request for bids was sent out three weeks later. Mr. Custer, in Nevada on a water-security job, stayed up three nights to complete their offer.

Quick on the Draw

Two days later, the company won the contract, beating companies with long histories in the business, including Texas-based Dyncorp International, a unit of Computer Sciences Corp., and the U.K.'s Armor Group International Ltd. Custer Battles's bid was cheaper, but more important, it promised to have 138 guards on the ground within two weeks, faster than the others.

"We got that contract because we were young and dumb and didn't know better," says Mr. Custer, a former Army captain who studied at Oxford and Georgetown universities. "Anyone with experience would have said they'd be there in eight weeks."

Frank Hatfield, the senior U.S. airport official in Iraq at the time, says speed -- not cost -- was the deciding factor. All he wanted, he says, was an assurance Custer Battles could handle the contract.
Custer Battles lacked more than experience. No banks would lend it money. In the end, the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority lent it $2 million in $100 bills that Mr. Battles stuffed into a duffel bag and personally deposited in a bank in Lebanon.

They had only two weeks to set up the project. In mid-July last year, new hires mustered in Jordan and had to be convoyed across the desert. The company had to buy all its equipment from the U.S. with only three full-time employees in its Virginia office to help.

It found half of the guards it needed in Nepal, a common source of private security guards, and the rest in the U.S., mostly ex-soldiers hired through word of mouth. Mr. Custer flew in an accountant from Deloitte & Touche LLP, who immediately bought a safe.

The airport facilities were littered with broken glass and human excrement. Expecting to stay indefinitely, Custer Battles rehabbed the offices with carpet and wallpaper, installed showers in the bathrooms and added a wireless Internet connection. A short distance away, the company built a trailer park to house employees, complete with swimming pool and pool table. This was done partly to demonstrate Custer Battles's seriousness to potential clients.

They got the men in place two days early but had to sacrifice basic logistics, such as payroll systems. Mr. Custer says the company didn't figure out how to pay people until well into the next month.

Less than 10 miles from the city center, Baghdad International Airport quickly emerged as perhaps the safest and best-placed real estate in Iraq. The company took full advantage. Custer Battles built kennels for 18 bomb-sniffing dogs beside the camp and has parlayed the animals into $16 million in Army contracts. It also used a terminal to house 40 Filipinos brought in to provide catering services. Frank Willis, one of several officials hired by the Coalition Provisional Authority to handle aviation issues, watched with shock and awe. As officials tried to get Custer Battles to explain the dogs and the Filipinos, the company had ready explanations. "It was always some colonel or ministry official who'd given the OK," says Mr. Willis. "These guys were absolute masters at working the chaos of a combat zone and cutting corners to make a profit."

Mr. Custer acknowledges he had run-ins with Mr. Willis and other officials. He says the company won approval for its work from the Army, which controlled the airport.

In September, U.S. officials in Baghdad hired Custer Battles to help organize the process of replacing Iraq's old currency. That meant building camps in northern, central and southern Iraq where Custer Battles would house and feed hundreds of U.S. and Iraqi workers involved in the switchover.

Contracting was erratic at best in those months. Part of the contract was set at a fixed price, with the rest to be billed according to cost. But the job's size kept increasing. The Baghdad camp, located beside the airport, was supposed to house 185 people. At its height it housed 450. A two-month supply of bottled water vanished in a week. The sewage system overflowed.

Mr. Battles says Custer Battles is still owed millions of dollars from that job. Custer Battles got the job through the Coalition Provisional Authority, but that entity was dissolved at the end of June. The company's lawyers are now trying to pin down who to hit up for the remainder of the bill. U.S. officials in Baghdad say they are unaware of outstanding disputes with Custer Battles.

In November, Washington Group International Inc., a big engineering company, asked Custer Battles to provide 700 men to guard electrical towers that curved through the tumultuous "Sunni Triangle" area of Iraq north and west of Baghdad. Under contract with the Army Corps of Engineers, Idaho-based Washington Group planned to install high-voltage wires and repair the towers.

Mr. Custer says that from the outset he viewed the job as extremely high risk -- he expected at least 12 guards would die -- and priced the job accordingly. Three months of protection, he told the engineering company, would cost $12 million. Washington Group accepted and ended up extending the contract to six months for $20 million.

When the bills arrived at the Pentagon, government auditors threw a fit, according to correspondence between the parties. Most of the guards hired by Custer Battles came from a Kurdish subcontractor who paid its employees less than $200 a month. Pentagon auditors contend that more than two-thirds of the bill is unwarranted. They're refusing to pay Washington Group more than $5 million. The engineering company has paid Custer Battles in full.

Jack Herrmann, Washington Group's spokesman, says that Custer Battles "did a good job with a unique assignment," and that he's confident the auditing dispute will be resolved.

Mr. Custer says his company did nothing wrong. Three vehicles were destroyed in various attacks; no guards died. "I built a lot of profit into that contract because there was so much risk," he says. "I wouldn't do it any differently now."

Rough Road

The company's breakneck expansion caused plenty of heartburn. Mr. Custer says he fired two senior employees, one for stealing money and the other for lying about work he didn't perform. Dozens of qualified men left, often with the aim of starting their own businesses. In April, 15 Custer Battles guards disappeared while on the job with both weapons and credentials, the company says. It's not clear where those people are.

The company suffered its first fatality April 8 outside the town of Hit, about 120 miles west of Baghdad. As guards transported a group of Army Corps of Engineers officials in a convoy of SUVs, they ran into an anti-American demonstration. In its haste to flee, one SUV became stuck in the mud. Michael Bloss, a 38-year-old former paratrooper from Wales, was shot in the head by a demonstrator. He had been in Iraq for less than a month.

Mr. Custer got the word at 3:30 a.m. He was in Rhode Island and his wife was in labor with their first child. "It was devastating," he says. "It took the wind out of everyone's sails." Three more employees, including one American, were killed last month when a rocket-propelled grenade slammed into their convoy near the city of Mosul.

Many guards say they are in Iraq primarily for the money. Salaries can run as high as $20,000 a month for top ex-soldiers, who say opportunities are much better there than in the U.S. Kurt Gutierrez, an Army veteran and co-director of Custer Battles's Iraq operations, says his family continually asks him to come home. He says he has been fired on twice by insurgents and recently found himself trapped in his car by stone-throwing Iraqis.

The company's inexperience led to some misunderstandings. Employees of consulting firm BearingPoint Inc., which hired Custer Battles to provide security, treated their bodyguards more like servants, says Mr. Custer, complaining about issues such as a lack of toilet paper. That led to a minor staff revolt, Mr. Custer says. "Our immaturity as a company didn't mesh well with that job." He ended the contract six months early. BearingPoint declined to comment.

Mr. Custer is now intent on expanding beyond the war zone. He hopes that less than half of next year's revenue will come from Iraq, compared with about 90% now. The company has opened an office in Qatar and Mr. Battles says it has $35 million in commitments for a fund that will invest in projects such as a shrimp farm in southern Iraq and home-loan financing operations in Eastern Europe. The company is also setting up a 227-acre corporate training center near Fort Bragg in North Carolina.

Custer Battles is no longer guarding the Baghdad airport. Constant feuding with Coalition Provisional Authority officials and an expansion in the contract's scope to cover ports, prompted the company not to rebid for the work. Airport security is now run by London-based Global Risk Strategies Ltd., one of the largest Western security firms in Iraq.

Messrs. Custer and Battles, both married with children, now spend little time in Iraq, preferring to run operations from a drab office park alongside other defense contractors on the outskirts of Newport, R.I. Several people have expressed interest in buying into the company, the partners say, but there are no serious discussions. They worry that a single calamity or mistake could topple their young operation, which they say has paid them well, but not stupendously. Mr. Custer says the two have reinvested "the majority of profits back into the company."

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:38 PM
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25. Take the money and RUN,
eh? And now they prefer to run their ops from RI? No shit! :eyes:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:17 AM
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14. Mr. North's Testimony
Greetings...thanks for the link.

This hearing is awesome...sadly it'll be just the few of us who will hear the tip of this war profiteering iceberg.

I was listening with interest to Mr. North's testimony since he was involved in the "Commander Solo" projects where American broadcasters...pets of the regime...such as Cheap Channel, Salem, Sinclair and others were contracted to "rebuild" the Iraqi broadcast system that we destroyed in '91 and 2003.

It was a boondoogle from the outset, as Mr. North was describing, and that was how it was intended to be. This was hush money to these companies to flag waive for the war and support the regime. The resulting "stations" are the most unpopular in the country...run by contractors and "ex-patriots" (INC and Chalabi pals).

One sidenote that came to mind and I wish I could find the page...it's on a radio site. It's the story of the American who was beheaded last year...he was part of this venture. He was a former Cheap Channel employee who was contracted to work on transmitters and antennas in Iraq and ended up losing his head.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:20 AM
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15. "American Taxpayer is the Victim" ---- there is quote of the morning
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:20 AM
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16. Nick Berg?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:28 AM
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18. Thank You!
Yes...I'm still looking for the page.

This was on a radio site, written by another engineer who had worked with him and gave a better insight into how we got involved in this mess and what he was hired to do.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:24 AM
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17. Frank Willis testimony is incredible!..i can't wait for the transcripts!!!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:28 AM
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19. that's all that will come of this.... democracy is messy comments
our press is in the same bed as the rethugs

this stuff should be on every TV set in america
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:30 AM
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20. "Gunny Sacks Of Money"
How many times have we heard about the tons of cash that papered the place? And a lot of this went to Americans...not locals.

Henry Waxman...a true patriot!
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