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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 01:59 PM
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The question is how did this guy get within 10 ft of the POTUS?
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 01:59 PM by trumad
For all those who are blowing this story off as no biggie, ask yourself this.... How did a Gay prostitute end up asking the President of the United States questions in the White House?..... Most importantly, how did a Gay Prostitute end up with top secret classified documents?

Go ahead and move on if this doesn't bother you, but it sure bothers the hell out of me!
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:01 PM
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1. You're kidding.
n/t
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:01 PM
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2. This is the REAL story
but I'm not sure how we can get to the bottom of it without using some "Gonzales Approved " techniques on lyin' Scottie, KKKarl Rove and a few others in the WH.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:26 PM
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23. My LTTE concerning how Gannon got next to Bush was published
Sunday in the Durham Herald Sun.

Breach in security


How is it that a man using an alias and with no prior journalistic experience and, apparently, more than a little experience in pornographic Web sites, can get through White House security? Not only was Jeff Gannon allowed access to the president and his press secretary but he actually spent a weekend with Bush at his ranch in Crawford. Is the president's security so weak that anyone with a fake name can have access to his time and his personal residence? There may be more to this than meets the eye. There are suggestions that Gannon was planted by the White House to ask very easy questions designed to make the President look good. There are also suggestions that Gannon was a recipient of the leaked White House memo that outed Valerie Plame as a CIA operative. This very serious breach in security needs to be investigated and whoever was responsible for allowing this man access to Bush needs to be prosecuted for endangering the president's life. In these days of terrorism and security concerns, this cannot be taken lightly.



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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:30 PM
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25. He spent a weekend with Bush at the ranch????
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 02:31 PM by in_cog_ni_to
When??? How??? Why??? Was he there as a "journalist?" or as an "escort?" Hmmmmmmmmmm?

on edit...congratulations on your LTTE being published! :)
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:56 PM
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32. Where did u find out Gannon had been to Crawford?
"Not only was Jeff Gannon allowed access to the president and his press secretary but he actually spent a weekend with Bush at his ranch in Crawford."


I've been searching and cannot come up with anything....

Still, it's a very interesting rumour, since all his websites list BULLDOG as having a preference for "TOP."

Think about it: If he was pitching, who was catching?

;)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:01 PM
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33. False lead....The WH Transcript said "the Gannons" There some
big Bush Donars who are "Corporate Gannons." This guy, Guckert isn't married.

I did a Google on the "Gannons" and there are several but one set is probably the Bush Pioneers or whatever they call themselves. The question is why did Guckert pick the name Gannon. :shrug: Maybe there's something there but not Crawford...

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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:27 PM
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45. Nevermind, I couldn't find proof.
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 08:30 PM by jdj
Someone posted a link to the freerepublic threads with poster Jeff Gannon (the thread is called free republic has a male prostitute member, and he brags about all his stories and scoops on these posts, so it's definitely the same person, and then he talks about getting a call and says "my wife answered the phone."

edit: I was wrong about that, he is quoting from another blog.

So he could be married. Also at Jeff Gannon.com, his stupid quote "the voice goes silent" he talks about quitting reporting for his family's sake.

edit:"Because of the attention being paid to me I find it is no longer possible to effectively be a reporter for Talon News. In consideration of the welfare of me and my family I have decided to return to private life.

Thank you to all those who supported me." ( www.JeffGannon.com )that could just mean his parents I suppose.

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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:30 PM
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48. EXCELLENT WORK auburngrad82!!!! CONGRATS on getting published
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:01 PM
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3. also keep in mind....
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 02:01 PM by SheepyMcSheepster
he was granted access to the white house press pool only 4 days after Talon News came online.

edit: someone new exactly who he was.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:01 PM
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4. They wanted him there
He is part of whatever they are up to. A pawn to be sure. But he is part of it. Keep digging on him. The more dirt we find the more those in power will back away from him. And as they disavow him the more their cover is lifted from him. Sooner or later he will dump on them.

Keep at it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:35 PM
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28.  Sooner or later he will dump on them.
IF they don't kill him first.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:03 PM
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5. The penis distracts
do not focus on it!

He was a gay prostitute if he was told to be one.

He was a reporter if he was told to be one.

PLAME! This will be forgotten if we allow the sex hungry press to only focus on the gay angle!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:03 PM
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6. You mean "10 inches" don't you?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:03 PM
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7. The question is how did this guy get to be the POTUS?
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:43 PM
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30. LOL. . . .great minds think alike. . .
your question is how I read the original, too.

Both questions can be answered with this one answer: power corrupts.

:yourock:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:03 PM
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8. How did a male whore gain access to classified CIA memos?
and why?

Who gave a male prostitute that access?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:03 PM
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The second question is how did he get hold of a classified CIA document?
Who showed it to him? Was someone trying to impress Gannon with his level of power in the White House, and showed him the document about Plame to "prove" his status? Was it a quid pro quo situation?

Leave no stone unturned in this one, and definitely follow the money.

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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:03 PM
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9. blackmail. nt
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:37 PM
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52. That's what I'm starting to think: blackmail opposed to special favors
Scottie may have done this as a special favor but I do really suspect blackmail.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:04 PM
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10. That's why I think he has an "John" inside the WH...
:puke:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:04 PM
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11. He just said he was a good friend of Craig Spence
...and that opened all the doors at the Bush administration...
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:06 PM
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12. It bothers me
but it isn't going to hurt the WH politically. This is a non-story to them. They can deny that they knew him: "He was just another member of the "new media" and we were trying to give fair and balanced access. Turns out he had a shady past and we don't condone that sort of thing, but some people say many left wing internet journalists also have been gay prostitutes. We will review our policy for giving daily passes to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again. Next question." Keep your eye on the ball.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:13 PM
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17. agreed
I think that is exactly how they will spin it.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:15 PM
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19. I don't t think it will be that easy for them to dismiss this...
simply by saying they didn't know him. He would have had to have gone through a thorough investigation by the Secret Service when he applied under his real name for access. They knew both his real name and his alias as notated by Scottie's calling upon him by his alias.

Now, either the Secret Service was incredibly incompetent in their investigation of him or they were called off on doing any investigation of him. Which is it?

If the SS is that incompetent, how will the WH address that issue? If the SS was called off investigating him, who called them off?

I think this is getting VERY interesting!
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:32 PM
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49. No, it was an alias.
And McClellan is on record saying that he KNEW it was an alias. Yet they still gave him access.

(Not to mention access to the Plame docs he says he saw). They got a lot of 'splainin to do.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:46 PM
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55. WHO DO YOU WORK FOR? Us or THEM? lol
;)
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12345 Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:10 PM
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13. I don't think that anyone discounts what you're saying.
It's just that the focus of this story is porn/prostution, not the important question of how he gained access to the White House. While establishing Gannon's link to prostitution is a critical component of the bigger picture, making an "expose" of that component overshadows the real issues.

While sex may sell the story, I don't believe that it will without the involvement of a key player with direct ties to the administration. Without that, it seems like we're grasping at straws and using personal attacks on Gannon to sell the story.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:13 PM
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15. The porn/prostitution is the sizzle. The access is the meat
Unfortunately it takes sex for some people to sit up and take notice. All else can seem nuance to some. And conservatives are very tired of nuance. They would much rather just go with their gut. And their gut instinct about a unacredited reporter getting access to the WH is not going to take notice. But if that unacreditted reporter also happens to be a male prostitute they suddenly cannot turn their noses away from the stench. Particularly after what they did to Clinton for a stain.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:12 PM
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14. The only way it matters
is if his work as a gay prostitute was related to him getting access to the POTUS and to confidential information (Plame). Is there some connection there?
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:13 PM
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16. What was he going to do, throw gay on the POTUS?
So he was a gay prostitute. That doesn't make him a particular security risk. I wouldn't give a damn if he was selling his ass *to* the President in the Lincoln Bedroom. All I care about was that he was whoring out his pen, not his penis.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:15 PM
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20. Understood, but
I wonder how he got access to whore his pen, and suspect it had something to do with his occupation whoring his penis. Somebody found this guy somehow, and set him up with a WH press pass.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:30 PM
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26. That is an interesting part of the story
I think the way the original post was worded, and the way a lot of people seem to be responding ("omg gay male prostitute" instead of "prostitute") is just creeping me out.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:34 PM
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27. This regime is extremely anti gay.
I think THAT is why "gay" prostitute is being thrown about. Gotta hit the hypocrites right their their faces with it.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:07 PM
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38. It's being thrown around here on DU in this very thread!
Why do we have to giggle about it so much? It seems so... unliberal.
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Spacejet Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:13 PM
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40. True colors
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 08:18 PM by Spacejet
You notice this a lot if you're GLBT. A lot of so called democrats will TELL you they don't have a problem with you, but when your back is turned (or they get to be on an anonymous message board) it's another story.

This guise that some people around here are using is truly pathetic. "No no, it's not that he's gay - it's that he's a gay prostitute" "Yes, GAY prosititute"

It's like the fu**ers who say "No, I don't have a problem with people who aren't white. I just think they should stay in their own country".

These are the worst kind of bigots IMO. Because not only are they bigots, they don't even have the guts to come out and admit it.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:14 PM
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18. You know it wasn't that long ago that being gay in a position of power
was a threat to Natinoal Security because you could be blackmailed and may give up secrets. Once again the liberal/progressive ideal of equality for all saves the day. Only this time it's a bad apple that has been abusing that protection from persecution in an attempt to bring down the very institution that provided him that protection in the first place.

The whole "he's a gay prostitute" angle seems a bit off to me. It gives ammo to the right who will spin the "gay" part of it to bolster their anti-gay agenda. How about we play up the CONSERVATIVE part of this guy's persona? Like ultra-conservative "reporter" that quit after it was discovered he worked for a conservative faux-news cover operation but had received White House press credentials under an assumed name has been further found to have prostituted his conservative ass on the internets. "Got wood?" indeed!
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:22 PM
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21. I am sure he has a lot he could tell...but will he?
To save himself, he would tell all...the problem with that would be that he would most certainly become depressed enough to then have to commit "suicide". Why he is alive is the question..at this point..it must be that someone is convinced that his being suicided..would not be the end of it..so the information is somewhere..all of it..and would be revealed if he should die..and this is probably why he was given press clearance to start with..so..it would then be why he is still alive...today. That information..all of it is somewhere..maybe more than one place.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:24 PM
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22. Yep. This is the real story. Right here. nt
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:28 PM
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24. Frame the debate
Own the argument.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:35 PM
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29. ALSO "Jeff" said he MET with the president TWICE.
How does a male prostitute with NO journalistic credentials meet with the president twice and become a repuke operative in the WHITE HOUSE?

THAT'S the story, people.

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12345 Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:47 PM
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31. I missed that...
when did he say that?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:57 PM
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35. In his interview with Wolf Blitzer, I believe.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:00 PM
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36. I'm starting to think this story won't go away
Either the security in getting into the White House and so close to POTUS is lacking

or

Someone greased the wheels to give this clown easy access.

Which makes more sense?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:01 PM
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37. Actually I can see either way.
bushco is AMAZINGLY incompetent so I can easily see number one.

Then again, number two would indicate deeper factors at work, which I would totally believe, too.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:03 PM
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34. Do you remember which interview he said he met Chimp in? That would
be very interesting if it's true..
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:12 PM
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:18 PM
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41. A non-credited 'reporter' using a false name working for
a new 'media outlet' that was only started 4 days before 'Gannon' gained access to the WH and the press briefings and who had been advertising his services on the internet in what may well be an illegal enterprise is the question. That he happens to be gay is a side issue.

I did not read the OP as being anti-gay in any way rather it was asking the question of access and security, very valid and important question, imo.
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Spacejet Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:20 PM
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42. No kidding sherlock
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 08:24 PM by Spacejet
So WHY wasn't the original post "why was a non-credited 'reporter' using a false name working for...".

INSTEAD of "why was a gay man allowed near the president".

Got an answer?

What if the OP read

"For all those who are blowing this story off as no biggie, ask yourself this.... How did a black prostitute end up asking the President of the United States questions in the White House?..... Most importantly, how did a black Prostitute end up with top secret classified documents? "

Or would it still be ok?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:24 PM
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43. I skipped by the gay guy and looked at the totality of the post
and found it to have merit. I would suggest if you have suggestions for better wording for the OP you might try suggesting it as you did in the above post instead of negating the whole post with your initial comment.
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Spacejet Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:28 PM
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46. His post
Mentioned that the individual in question was gay at least twice (note it's now been edited) thus leading me to believe part of his problem was that the individual in question was gay.

Or do you normally use such terminology if it isn't something your taking in to consideration about a person?

"Gee, why is that jew walking in front of our church" or "Gee, why is that black guy sitting in the front of the bus" Or "gee, why was that jew allowed to ask the president questions"

Guess you guys work in pairs.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:35 PM
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51. I am glad you pointed out the problem and it has now
been corrected. The post now has merit so we can go on to debate that and that's good news.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:24 PM
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44. No it just seems unlikely bedfellows
Repukes are so anti-gay, why does this guy have an in? That is the hypocracy and the foremost unanswered question.
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Spacejet Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:29 PM
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47. So your complaint is
that a gay person was NOT prohibited from asking questions in the white house. Interesting.

So, if he was banned from asking questions due to being gay what would your complaint be then, if any?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:38 PM
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:32 PM
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50. I don't think anyone has written to Man-on-Dog yet.
But it might be one option; you're right. ;-)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 08:39 PM
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54. after reading his reviews
I wonder if he ever got within 8 inches of the BOGUSpotus.
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