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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:48 PM
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Have You All Seen Gannon's Ed & Pub Interview?

He says he never said he saw the CIA briefing memo when he talked to Wilson about Plame, though he played coy about whether he actually had seen it.

My feeling: He never saw it. He's full of shit. He's small fry.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000799182
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:52 PM
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1. Did he interview
Wilson before or after Novak did the leak?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:55 PM
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3. After. He was one of the winger journos jumping on the bandwagon
after someone "leaked" that Plame had recommended Wilson for the Nigeria gig a year after Novak blew Plame's cover. I think Gannon was just regurgitating again. He's a serial regurgitator of right wing talking points. I doubt he was privvy to the same privileged info that Andrea Mitchell and Robert Novack were having shared with them.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:59 PM
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4. Good possibility
that you're right.......that would explain his contridictions in the E & P interview......

but still....

how the hell did he get into the WH?

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:07 PM
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6. Apparently it's just not that big a deal.
If you give your name and Social Security number the night before, they run it by the FBI and put you on the list (if you pass) the next day.

I hope it really isn't a big deal. Maybe more bloggers will show up and start asking harder questions.
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 02:54 PM
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2. Reminds me of Stone's "JfK"
wherein the character played by Pesci was trying to impress some lads.

Perhaps someone was trying to impress Gannon with some hints. Or maybe more.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:18 PM
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13. Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the left.
:D
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:01 PM
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5. Says each day Jeff had to give his name and SS number.
So what SS number did he give ? What name was with the SS number ? If the SS number said James Guckart, how did he get in calling himself Jeff Gannon ? If the name with the SS number was Jeff Gannon that is out and out fraud and a federal offense I would think.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:08 PM
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7. Do we know he didn't give his name as Guckert?
Why would he give his name as Gannon if it wasn't his legal name? Who said he gave a fake name anyway?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:10 PM
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8. If he gave his name as Jim Guckert, that name would
be on his pass. Wouldn't it be a little stupid for the President and press secretary to call someone Jeff, whose name was Jim ?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:13 PM
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9. Did they call him Jeff?
In the transcript, Bush never says "Jeff" or "Jim." He just says "Yes, sir."

It is odd that he called on Gannon considering how stage managed the conferences are. The WH staff probably new he'd lob a softball. So what, though, really? Is that a crime?

There's no there here.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:18 PM
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12. Burt
Scott did call on him as "Jeff."

Repeatedly.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:20 PM
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15. Is that a crime?
Suppose Guckert gave his real name to the security checkers and put Gannon on his badge. Is that a crime? How much time should he do for that?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:55 PM
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29. It means that Scott very possibly
was in on the psuedonym thing.

Remember, women in the WH press corps who used their maiden names in a professional capacity aren't even ALLOWED to do that in the bush White House. But this guy is allowed to use a complete psuedonym?

And the bigger question is what SS # did he use? If he has one for Jeff Gannon, that's a crime (since he doesn't exist).

If he used HIS SS#, then the powers that be who allowed him in OBVIOUSLY knew he was using a psuedonym.

Either way, it's bad.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:58 PM
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30. I might need to sleep on this.
I got distracted by the Eason Jordan thing, which seems to be covering something more serious.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:00 PM
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31. Hey if there's something even more serious
I'm all for that. What is this Eason Jordan thing?

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:06 PM
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33. He's the head of CNN news who was forced into resigning
on Friday because a blogger publicised a comment he made at a supposedly "off the record" event at Davos about coalition forces targeting journalists in Iraq. Michelle Malkin, Jonah Goldberg and someone else ran with it, calling Jordan a traitor. Jordan is one of the original CNN hands. I don't think he meant to say that it was a policy of the US military to kill journalists. But he did mean to say that some deaths of journalists in Iraq from coalition fire could not be classified as "collateral damage."

See, while we are dancing on the grave of the career of a probable nobody, the right wing lopped off the head of the head of CNN news, effectively silencing any American journalist who wants to know why so many journalists are being killed in Iraq.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:14 PM
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34. Ann Coulter recently said she wishes it were
policy for the American military to "target journalists" in Iraq.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:15 PM
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10. When questioned by the FBI, did he tell them his name was
Jeff Gannon or Jim Guckert? Remember, telling a lie to the FBI is a felony that carries up to 5 years in prison. Remember Miss Martha at Camp Cupcake!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:21 PM
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16. I don't know the answer to that, do you?
I suspect he gave his real name, otherwise they wouldn't have found him.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:27 PM
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19. He gave his name as JEFF GANNON in all his
journalistic endeavors. He has been on Fox, Blitzer, and others and given his name as Jeff Gannon. O'Reilly, Limbaugh,and all the other wing bats have called him Jeff Gannon. So how can you say he didn't lie to get his press pass ?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:31 PM
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21. So what if he did?
According to the theory, he was a shill on the WH payroll anyway, so who cares if he used an alias? I don't get why the alias is a problem if the shilling is the problem. If the shilling is the problem, the alias is nothing.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:42 PM
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26. What is his legal name?
Guckert or Gannon?

If it is Guckert and not Gannon, they would have been able to find him as Gannon, that is who he has been living and working as.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:02 PM
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32. He used 'Jeff Gannon' on all his stories and reports from the...
WH and Scottie would call him 'Jeff' when calling upon him so it stands to reason the Secret Service or FBI, whoever does the check would know both names and would investigate both unless called off the search.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:40 PM
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24. Simple Scottie said in a recent press briefing, when asked...
about this, that 'Gannon' had to submit his request in his real name with his social security #, etc, so they all knew his real name yet simple Scottie would call upon him by using his alias 'Jeff' instead of his real name 'James'. One has to wonder why?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:17 PM
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35. So Scottie says it and I am supposed to believe it?
Don't think so, I know that Congress wouldn't give him a pass. Wonder how he applied with them and what name he used.

Guess the call for a congressional hearing on this and all documents on file with the WH may uncover all of this. :shrug: Which liar should I believe? :shrug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:21 PM
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37. Well, it looks like Scottie can't seem to get his story straight!

Former Talon News reporter James D. Guckert got to ask questions at Whtie House press briefings for nearly two years but White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan did not know the controversial reporter was using an alias until the past few weeks, he told E&P Monday.
<snip>


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3111626
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:16 PM
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11. Why would you believe him?
I think he did, given an interview with Wilson by 'Gannon' and a subsequent interview by a Kos blogger with Wilson and his response to 'Gannon's' question on the memo. 'Gannon' was the first to bring up this memo, how could he do that without being a 'conduit' at the very least and who told him about the memo?

That interview, imo, should be relagated to the same level of credibility as the Blitzer interview which has now been shown to be nothing but a pack of lies.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:25 PM
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18. Why is the WH using a truck driver/gay porno purveyor for this sensitive
mission? Why not just use the untouchables in the media like Novack and Mitchell?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:30 PM
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20. It has been the practice of this WH to use multiple...
outlets for their misinformation campaign and their revenge so 'Jeff' is just one of them. Faux news, newsmax, Novak, etc are all on their list of contacts to spread it, 'Jeff' is another.

The question that has not been answered (or asked yet) is this:

How did 'Jeff' get past the thorough investigation the Secret Service would have conducted when he requested, under his real name, access to the WH and to the President"

Either the SS was grossly incompetent or they were called off doing an investigation. If the WH paints the SS as grossly incompetent, how will the SS take that hit? If the SS was waved off, then the question arises, why and by whom?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:33 PM
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22. Spread it to whom? To the wingers who believe it anyway?
What's the point?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:43 PM
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27. To ensure the story goes mainstream, it is simple...
if one way didn't work re getting it to the 'mainstream, one of the others would and, as we have seen many times, it is the old repeat, repeat, repeat mantra, repeat until it is taken as truth.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:19 PM
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14. The problem is, I feel Jimmy Jeff has no credibility
so I can't say whether what he is saying is true or not.

I mean he obviously lied about having journalistic credentials in the first place.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:23 PM
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17. This is the problem with liars. Nothing they say is credible.
It's suddenly not credible that he ever saw that document. It's not creidble that he was contacted by the FBI. I don't believe a word he says. I think everything he says is meant to make himself look like a star.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:38 PM
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23. It's a pattern we're seeing, that the White House doesn't know the players
Remember Bernie Kerik? Mr. Lovenest in NYC? Look at all the sludge and ooze that flowed from him. And yet he was tapped to be Director of HSD?

Give me a break. Are we to believe that there is gross incompetence in the white House which directly affects the sacred cow of National Security?

Jeff Gannon was chosen for a reason. No one is more paranoid than bush. Jeff Gannon was cleared at a high level for his job of lobbing softballs. He isn't a one-man show. There are others involved. And I'm still wondering if he was one of the call boys who visited the White House during Poppy's time as VP.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:44 PM
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28. So he was picked for lobbing softballs. Is that a crime?
(Assuming he was.) What is the crime there? Is he on the public payroll?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 03:42 PM
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25. Check his Free Republic posts -I believe he claimed he saw it there...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 04:35 PM
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36. He was very cagey about it, as though he doesn't know which is a better
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 05:13 PM by BurtWorm
story. He doesn't want to get in trouble for having actually seen the document (which I doubt he has seen), but he wants his buddies to think he's important enough to have actually seen it.
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