I'm very concerned the Jimmy Jeff Whore story will backfire.

[Toucano]

Like the serpent in the Garden of Eden, a queer has contaminated the White House press corps.

Imagine if they let a homo like that stay in the military? That's what their agenda is all about, getting to places where they can corrupt our fine young people.

He was a plant to embarrass our holy president.

Those are the types of things I think we should be prepared to deal with.

Exposing all of America to the underbelly of gay prostitution and exploitation could have negative consequences for gays and lesbians in general.

How long before Jimmy Jeff is cited as a reason why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to hold office or handle sensitive intelligence in the civilian world too?

The new Super HIV was reported last week. How long before red state Senator's are calling for a prohibition on gay online personals to halt the spread of this super bug?

I suggest we keep the focus on the lies, hypocrisy, betrayal, and violation of public trust, but I'm interested in your thoughts.

Rove has a way of turning these things upside down on us. We can't let them put Jimmy Jeff on the sacrificial altar to serve their larger purpose. This time, it has to stick.

If they didn't know his whole story, they are incompetent and someone must be fired. If they knew his story, and it can be confirmed they knew - they have to give an explanation of how he qualified for a press pass.

[cdb]

1. Yep.

It's all part of the famous "Gay Agenda"

The funny thing is, none of my gay friends ever getinvited to the meetings where they vote on the agenda....

[Toucano]

2. About that agenda.

I'm pretty sure it's set by closeted Christian fundamentalist gays.

Your friends, being well-adjusted, healthy gays aren't allowed to vote.

You have to be a self-loathing, "straight-acting" gay person to get invited to the agenda meetings.

LOL! Just a guess based on what we hear about the agenda.

[prodigal_green]

3. and I never get invited to the Jewish conspiracy meetings

but then again, I'm only half-Jewish and am a confirmed Catholic...

[Canuckistanian]

5. And I let my Gay Agenda membership lapse...

I hope I'm not kicked out of the Terrorist-Lover rally next Sunday!

[prodigal_green]

8. Whatever you do,

don't miss the baby-killing pancake breakfast the first Sunday in March!

[MrModerate]

4. The fact that he's a prostitute . . .

-- regarded by the law as a serial criminal -- should make him a security risk, I'd think.

The fact that he's apparently gay is irrelevant.

The fact that he's a liar and a tool and that the Republicans had no compunction against using him -- a known "criminal" -- should demontrate that they are irresponsible as well as immoral.

Keep hammering at that.

If people are queasy about other people being gay, there's not a lot you can do about it.

[LeftyMom]

6. Repubs play up the security/blackmail potential issue

to hammer dems on thier infidelities. We should be pointing out that allowing an unqualified past prostitute with (he claims) military training in the same room as the president is a bit of a security risk. Heads need to roll for the bad judgement alone.

edited to add a caveat

[Toucano]

10. I don't completely agree, but

I appreciate the value of what you're saying regarding the criminal aspect.

I would add that we have to be careful to frame the discussion in terms of OUR values, not theirs.

I've seen posts about W returning dignity and values to the White House by letting in gay hookers, and that's problematic to me because we talk about the story in terms of their values: piety, chastity, heterosexuality.

Of course, it's supposed to point out the hypocrisy, but I'm not sure if it works completely. It comes across as something like, "See! He doesn't hate gays as much as he's supposed to!" rather than, "He attacks loving, gay families, but lets a lying gay-for-pay prostitute into the White House." Maybe?

What we should be talking about are OUR values: integrity, honesty, transparancy, and respect for the law.

[LondonAmerican]

11. Agreed

it's the fact that the republicans are using prostitutes as part of their campaigns that's the really revealing thing!

[Darkhawk32]

7. Agreed. We need to switch focus.......

We've outed this guy as a phony shill.

Now we need to found out how he got CIA information.

[cmd]

9. We didn't admit him to the White House

The fact that he is gay is not the issue. The fact that he is not a credible journalist and was never properly vetted is the story. The details are frosting on the right wing cake.

Here is where the fun begins: I ask you, what are we going to tell the children? How are we going to explain this to America's youngest? He has soiled America's House! Are these the kind of morals we want?

[Toucano]

13. Yes, I think that's right.

I would only add that we specify "the kind of morals we want", rather than leaving it open ended.

If it's open ended, they may be able to get a foot in the door for their hate agenda that's disguised as "morals".

It's nice to "see" you again, cmd. :)

[cmd]

14. Good to see you, too!

;)

[Walt Starr]

12. The underbelly of this specific gay protsitution scandal will shock them

TO THEIR CORE!

Seriously, read some of the male escort reviews. Mostly retired military types using his services. These are guys who spent their entire lives in the military hiring a Fred Garvin!

That will shock the macho Freeper mentality to their very core!

[demgrrrll]

17. As I wrote on another thread the call boy angle is similar to the Profumo

Mandy Rice Davies and Christine Keeler affair that almost brought down a government. The Russian spy that was involved with Keeler was the very troubling because she was involved with Profumo and the Russian spy. Gannon/Guckert's ties to secret CIA information are troubling for the same reasons..There are strong parallels. Obviously as a culture we have moved a bit from the 60's however the security concerns are the issue here not his sexuality. His sexuality becomes an issue as it relates to the Republicans hypocrisy about sexual issues. I am not making any declarations about whether or not prostitution should or should not be legal. At the present time prostitution is not legal and therefore Mr. Gannon has been engaged in criminal activity, I mean what are we going to tell the children, rule of law and all. He was a huge security risk.

[giant_robot]

15. I usually don't do this, but check out Freepville

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1343075/posts

I thought anybody could tell Jeffy was selling his ass to other men after the first two websites John uncovered. But, lo and behold, the freeps are in complete denial about one of their own being a rentboy . I really can't believe it. Either they haven't taken the time to check the link, or they are the ones totally disconnected from reality.

[Toucano]

16. They don't get it at all.

I don't know if there's any hope over on freeperville. It's the whole forest vs trees for them.

The do seem to be drawing some of the wrong conclusions I was concerned about, though.

They were ready to condemn Alan Keyes daughter yesterday, but they endorse Jimmy Jeff today and call us hypocrites.

They don't understand many complex things, like the distinction between being gay and being a gay-for-pay whore.

[Toucano]

18. Kick.