Howard Stern Endorses Dean

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Wow!!! Howard Stern (who I think is actually a Democrat, his father definitely is), spoke about the Democrat's debate last night. He said Howard Dean was REAL good.

He said it with enthusiasm and talked at length just how direct Dean answered questions. Stern says, "You felt like you knew where he stood on the issues." He said that if they asked him about affirmative action, Dean would definitively say, "yes, I'm for it". Stern really liked that, and said that he finally knew why everyone was talking about Dean. He said that Dean was much better than Clinton and Bush.

I know mostly rightwingers listen to Howard, so this is actually some pretty big news. Howard reaches a LOT of people, and it's good for Dems and it's good for Dean.

Also, Howard had one of his flunkies interview some 8 and 10 year old kids that were picketing the Harvey Milk school. The kids were obviously brainwashed, and Howard took it seriously. He pointed out that these wackos were precisely the reason why the Harvey Milk school exists in the first place. Gays still aren't accepted in our country.

Howard the liberal? Nah, but once in a while he's cool. At least he speaks his mind (like Dean).

[deutsey]

1. Well, I've got to dump Dean now...

just joking. :evilgrin:

I'm not a fan of Stern's, but every little bit helps, I guess!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

17. but ... Howard Stern just isn't funny

Really, I've listened to the show, and it's just not funny. I just don't understand. So he has women take off their tops on the radio - is that even controversial?

I just don't get the appeal of Howard Stern - but then again I don't get the appeal of Howard Dean either.

[phillybri]

2. I'm shocked....

I thought he's been all over *'s johnson....

[fob]

39. I think it was last friday he said that bush* was done,

he's a one-termer like his dad. Which surprised me because he was extra gung-ho about bush*s attack on Iraq

[Brucey]

3. You are correcto about

every bit helps... lots of conservatives listen to Stern, so this has got to help!

[ixion]

4. Howard is an entertainer

and a second rate enteratiner at that. I think his pandering to the GOP is just part of the show. Given two choice, one inflammatory and the other benign, he will ALWAYS choose the more controversial option. That's how he has kept his ratings so high. You listen to the show because it's outrageous, not because of the politics, IMO.

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23. I disagree

Stern had a ton of opportunities today to bash gays while talking about the Milk school, and didn't. (Even though gays probably don't make up a significant part of his audience)

I don't think he's nearly as funny as he used to be, but I still enjoy it from time to time. He gets knocked too much for the topless women on his show, even though he doesn't do that kind of stuff very often.

[vi5]

5. This isn't surprising.....

I'm a longtime Stern fan (although he's gone downhill over the past couple of years).

The only reason he's been supportive of Bush* is because of the Israel thing which he's always been a supporter of.

[trumad]

7. I heard that and he didn't endorse Dean

He simply said he was good and spoke the straight truth...He then went on to Diss Bill Clinton.... I love Howard but he didn't actually endorse Dean.

[djg21]

10. I heard it too.

There was NO endorsement. Just his opinion about the debates.

Yesterday, Stern opined that Bush did a great job after 9/11, in Afghanistan and Iraq. He also believed that Bush wouldn't beelected for a second term. If anything, he endorsed Shrub.

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24. No

Not an explicit endorsement of Dean, but he said he was good, that he'd get the nomination, and that Bush wouldn't be reelected. If that's not an endorsement, then I don't know what is.

[DemBones DemBones]

28. Change your misleading thread header then. When I see

"X endorses Y," I expect to read that X ENDORSED Y, not that X said Y was a good guy.

Clearly, you DON'T know what an endorsement is.

:shakes head:

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Not endorse in the political wonk propellor head way

But saying someone's a good guy is an endorsement to the rest of the world...

[DemBones DemBones]

38. To say someone endorses a candidate implies that they've

done so in the political way.

What the business is about "wonk propellor (sic) head," I have no idea.

Just say what Stern said: he liked how Dean answered questions.

[LuCifer]

20. plus

I think that Stern is thinking that by sucking Bush's ass and shit, that'll get the FCC off his ass. Yeah, good luck. I miss the old Stern.

[MaineDem]

6. Link?

Thanks.

[E_Zapata]

14. there are no links for radio

n/t

[LynneSin]

8. Stern activily supported Gore on his show

I've listened to Stern on and off (for the last few years it's been off) and he was dead set against Bush mainly for Bush's stance on women and GLBT issues. Stern; however, is a big supporter of the working class since that is his main audience. Probably why he's supported the war.

Who knows what this guy stands for, but I highly doubt he'll be in the Bush column come 2004

[Freddie Stubbs]

9. Stern is a Libertarian

At least he was back in 1994. He was the Libertarian candidate for Governor of NY. Stern dropped out before the election supposedly because he did not want to disclose his finances as required by state election laws.

[sangh0]

11. Stern is a conservative libertarian

so it's no surprise that he supports the most conservative Dem candidate.

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25. Wow

:wow:

You think Dean is more conservative than Lieberman???

[DemBones DemBones]

30. Dean's an economic conservative. I put him next to Lieberman,

too. It's funny how many of the Dean supporters here hate Lieberman because he's too conservative. I'd have trouble voting for either of them as the party's nominee.

[Nazgul35]

35. so you'll be voting for Bush then?

Ok....that's logical....

Or I suppose you'll say you'll vote green or not at all.....even more logical....

:eyes:

[sangh0]

40. I'll vote for the Dem nominee

Sen John Kerry

[sangh0]

31. Yes. IMO Dean is more conservative than Lieberman

Some of Dean's more conservative policies:

Balanced Budget Amendment
Tough on crime rhetoric
Taxes
The low-esteem of welfare recipients (derived from classic right-wing "dependency" rants)
Cuba embargo (which the House just voted to lossen)
Civil liberties (right after 9/11, Dean said we have to review, and possible limit, our freedoms)
Death Penalty

Lieberman's conservative positions are limited, AFAIK, to Iraq and the Middle East in general, sex and violence in the media and video games, and corporate governance.

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34. why is balancing a budget a conservative thing?

Don't you balance your check book? I've never understood why Dean has only MILD support of a balanced budget.

Don't you want to get away from the 'spend, spend, spend' rhetoric that the Repubs say about us?

[sangh0]

37. It's not

depending on the budgetary and economic circumstances. IOW, a balanced budget can be A Good Thing, if that's what the circumstances call for.

However, a Balanced Budget Amendment offers no discretion over when to run a surplus, when to run a deficit, and when to run a balanced budget. IOW, a balanced budget could be good, but a Balanced Budget Amendment is NOT A Good Thing. It's horrible.

And even worse, Dean supported this at a time when Clinton was trying to save the surplus for paying down the national debt amd shoring up SS and Medicare.

Why would anyone but a conservative advocate policies that undermine:

1) A Democratic President
2) SS
3) Medicare
4) The economy

[gully]

27. bwah ha ha ha ha....

you mean fiscally responsible, right?

[JI7]

12. do you think dean will go on stern's show ?

now THAT would be VERY interesting.

[On the Road]

13. Howard is an Independent Who Can Swing Elections

although the candidates he helped most have been Republicans (d'Amato, Whitman, Pataki), he supported Clinton and Gore. I think he will support Dean. Howard's endorsement can make a difference in a close election.

[VermontDem2004]

15. ugh

I wouldn't want Stern endorsing me.

[Boudicea]

16. This is a good thing?

[Gin]

18. Stern's show is now deemed to be a valid news show....

I don't care who appears on it.I don't and won't watch. I think he is pathetic. The lowest common denominator.

[spooky3]

19. I agree--sexist and demeaning to women.

[DemBones DemBones]

36. I agree -- Stern panders to sexists. He's trash and Dean is

too smart to make the mistake of appearing on Stern's show.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

21. Let me just say...

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. It doesn't suprise me

I'm a HUGE Howard Stern fan and while I was disappointed in his rah-rahing of the Iraq war, I understand it.

Obviously, the guy has more going on in his life than sitting around and watching politics all day. And when he wasn't talking about the war itself, his show was still funny.

I didn't hear today's comments (I had my Audioslave cd on in the car) it doesn't suprise me to hear that he'd like Dean.

Stern doesn't like Bush that much. He's rabidly pro-choice and obviously pro gay and lesbian. On social issues he's VERY liberal. I just think he's also very hawkish when it comes to the military.

And I don't think his audience is necessarily conservative, I think it's more liberal/libertarian than anything. If people wanted to listen to conservative talk radio in the morning than they could listen to WABC (where Rush and Hannity reside and that morning team of Curtis & Kuby challenge Stern) or WFAN (where Imus is).

[Gin]

42. The guy is fixated on T&A ......he has a "titty" obsession...

His mind is in his groin!

[Renew Deal]

26. It wasn't an endorsement but he said Dean was...

much more of a straight shooter than the other guys last night. He did not say or imply that he endorses Dean or anyone else. They talked about Larouche as much as they talked about Dean. Also, Robin made a comment about Dean's charisma running out.

Howard supported Gore. Recently he went after Bush. Howard is a rah rah american. I personally love his show. I lve in NY. It is by far the best thing on the radio.

[Riptide]

29. Every time I have listened to Stern, he is kissing Dubya's ass..

Stern is a complete hawk. He advocates bombing everyone and anything "back to the stone age". He is always singing Dubya's praises about what a strong leader he is and how Gore would not have handled 9-1-1 as well.

Yesterday, he had on Richard Belzer. Belzer is living in France. Howard has been a rabid France hater for years. He spent the whole time giving him grief about France and complaining about what wimps they were, etc. etc.

I don't see Stern as a Dean supporter when the general election comes around.

[Renew Deal]

32. Not always pro-Bush

Stern was not pro-Bush before 9/11. He supported Gore and even bitched that Bush got the best job in the world and was off on vacation. That was August '01. They replayed it like 2 weeks ago. Then last week he got into how Bush isn't doing a great job.

He is as hawkish as you described.

[Renew Deal]

33. Stern: "Bush will not be reelected."

Stern said this last week. He was also pretty disappointed with him.

[supercrash]

41. I love howard, but

He is one of them, He was pushing for the Iraq war, he said Bush is doing the right thing.

He is one of these stupid Americans that decided that they don't want a war now, Well it's to late, people like Howard already pushed the US into war, and I cannot stand to see these people just change their minds like this, All of a sudden they don't want war, like they can just flip a switch and turn it off

They must pay

Most Americans wanted war, and it gives me comfort to know that the next attack will kill these people, the odds are with this

We will reap what we sow...................again

[Doctor_J]

43. All repubs are endorsing Dean

Besides Stern (who also likes Rudy, Pataki, Whitman, D'Amato, Molinari, and Hatch), there's also Howard Fineman, Karl Rove, George Will all endorse. Something fishy here.