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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:28 PM
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Bush a descendant of the power-hungry warlord who led the Norman invasion
"800 years of mutual misery" :wow:
LOL, how far did the apple fall from this tree?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5112916-110878,00.html

Scion of traitors and warlords: why Bush is coy about his Irish links
Tapestry artist reveals ancestors of US president as murderous bunch

Angelique Chrisafis, Ireland correspondent
Thursday January 27, 2005

Guardian

It is perhaps not the best omen for US foreign affairs. Local historians in Wexford have discovered that George Bush is a descendant of Strongbow, the power-hungry warlord who led the Norman invasion of Ireland thus heralding 800 years of mutual misery. With a long line of Scots Irish presidents including Woodrow Wilson, the Irish are normally quick to claim US leaders as their own. But, despite President Bush's large Ulster Scots vote in the American Bible belt, Ireland had let his family escape the genealogical microscope.

But now Ann Griffin Bernstorff, an artist working on a tapestry to commemorate Ireland's Norman heritage, has discovered what she claims is the Bushs' missing Irish link.

Ms Griffin Bernstorff was researching Strongbow's son-in-law, William Marshal, when she discovered the connection. A descendant of Marshal married Anne Marbury Hutchinson, a famous 16th century religious dissenter who had already been linked to Mr Bush.

"It is one of those bizarre developments," she said. "We traced the Bush genealogy through a Republican source in Chicago and found it was correct. People here are absolutely shocked. I'm not sure what the wider reaction will be, Bush has not been seen as a great friend of the Irish."

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:36 PM
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1. It make sense that Dubya would be related to a power hungry...
Rapist of the land!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 06:43 PM
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2. Oh my god!! The 'Myth' making has really begun in earnest.
Edited on Mon Feb-14-05 06:44 PM by applegrove
Bush and 50 Million other people.

A good portion of us (with some European blood) are also descended from Mohammed too (through Spanish history to Royalty, & then to the masses). I wonder if Bush is descended from Mohammed too?

Can someone find that article on the Queen being related to Mohammed?


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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:19 PM
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4. but are 50 million other people conquering other
lands for personal reasons or for profit?

i think tha'ts the key here...we're showing that he's JUST like his ancestor.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:26 PM
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5. a bit of trivia, but interesting in a way
for some reason, I could imagine Monty Python doing a little skit on this
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 11:54 PM
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7. lol.
so could i.

"NObody expects the spanish inquisition!"

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EastofEdon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:17 PM
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3. what fun!
I needed something to 'lighten up' with..

"The genetic line can also be traced to Dermot MacMurrough, the Gaelic king of Leinster reviled in history books as the man who sold Ireland for personal gain.

Even before MacMurrough earned the title of Ireland's worst traitor by inviting Strongbow's invasion to save himself from a local feud, the Irish chieftain had a reputation for gore. One English chronicler told how MacMurrough, recognising the features of a personal enemy poking from a pile of severed heads after a battle, snatched up the rotting flesh and tore it with his teeth in a "hideous frenzy"."

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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-05 07:32 PM
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6. he descended from a monkey, enuff said
the gibbering goofball of the goddamed gop
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:51 AM
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8. oh, come on.
show the monkey a little respect. i'm sure he didn't want an ancestor like gw.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 01:28 AM
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9. no certainly not
i don't think even a slime mold would approve
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:53 PM
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10. the monketys maybe think, 'it's the office, not the man!'
i mean, geez, the guy's the ...ahem potus or 'president of the united states' and the monketys (not to mention 'slime' mould) might be proud of the fruit of their loins(?)
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:24 PM
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13. dupe.
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 11:17 PM by ashmanonar
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:33 AM
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15. wow, i got messed up there...what were we talking about?
:dunce:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:50 AM
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18. lol
and thanks for the spelling correction (mould) :think: :-)
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:03 PM
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11. He comes from a long line of power-hungry warlords
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 08:05 PM by TorchesAndPitchforks
Ireland's worst traitor

America's worst traitor.

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sierrajim Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:21 PM
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12. Ah dont forget that he is also related to John Kerry
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:26 PM
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14. eh.
did ya notice that the number of generations didn't get lower than 19 that they shared? that means that most likely we're all related at least indirectly to both of them.

unless you're a pure-blood native american, or a descendant of an ancient asian line, you're related in some way to everyone around you.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:59 AM
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16. kick to bookend with mopauls King David post
for the winger who says * is a related to King David
:-)
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:46 AM
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17. I'd like to know which "descendent" of Marshal's
married Ms. Hutchinson. Through which of Marhsal's many children does this atrocity occur?

Julie
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