HELP, this freeper fascist is soo annoying me

[Stop_the_War]

Here's some excerpts of his rhetoric(I've blanked out my name for privacy):

That's okay _________, you don't need to show me any pictures, clips or reels of anti-bush and anti-american demonstraters; I watch the news; I see them; I laugh at them.

I remember on MLK day in 2003 a bunch of whackos were holding some rallies protesting the impending war on Iraq. Most of their rant was unqualified rhetoric. One lady actually said, in opposition to the war against Iraq, screamed that she would not let a white administration fight a war in Africa. These people are jokes, they don;t even know geography. I could've sworn i was watching the Comedy Central, not CNN. Next on stage was Brooklyn councilman, Charles Barron, some racist black nutbar. HE ranted for a few minutes and then asked everyone to join him in his battle for slavery reparations. LOL, can these people get anymore ridiculous? The left in America is a joke.

Like I said we conservatives have better things to do than to complain, protest, burn flags, spew false, hateful invectives, etc. We protest and speak out in the voting booth and are relatively modest and unasuming most of the time.

You accuse me of being manipulated by propaganda; i don't see it. I simply believe in personal freedom, with standards of decency, fiscal freedom, personal responsibility, and a logical foreign and domestic policy that puts our security first. Why do you have a problem with that? It's almost as if people like you want to see bad things happen to America. what sense is there in that?

And more bullshit:

Republicans don't waste their time protesting in streets waving dumb catch phrase laiden placcards like liberals do. We have better things to do with our time, like working!

_________, Republicans and conservatives are at the top, we're gaining even more momentum and we're staying there. We out number liberals in both the house and the senate; we have the oval office. In two years our ranks will swell even further in the house and the senate. In four years our next candidate will become the next president. You and your guys have lost, you're still losing and that won't change. Reality is the picture that I'm showing you. And reality says that BUSH WINS, Republicans win and liberals LOSE!

Reality, it's not as bad as it seems; I hope that you can face it someday.

How do I respond to this shit?

[ashmanonar]

1. don't waste your time.

he's not gonna listen, so why waste your time listening? ignore. if it's mail, just don't read anything he sends. if it's aim, block him.

[ashmanonar]

2. hell, the only thing this person has right is that they've been winning

and we've been losing. hopefully that changes soon.

[MemphisTiger]

3. I would be dismissive

treat him like a child

[livinginphotographs]

4. Remember Reagan?

Cocky bastards like this freeper gave us 8 wonderful years of Clinton. Typical republican, though, since he's incredibly short-sighted.

[demnan]

5. Send him forms to sign up

if he thinks the Iraq war is so great, he should go. That ought to silence his chickenhawk ass.

[MsTryska]

31. i totally agree.

give him the form and tell him it's time his ass cashed the check his mouth has been writing.


it's okay if he's a fat old family man. the military will take him.

[distantearlywarning]

6. That's my advice too.

Who gives a shit? Let this guy wallow in his ignorance and move on. I used to get upset by this kind of stupidity, but then one day the lightbulb went on and I started just feeling contemptuous and like it wasn't worth my time anymore to waste breath or thought on morons. They can go down with the ship still ranting and raving about all the liberal "losers" if they want to. Not my concern anymore.

As an aquaintance of mine once said, "Don't waste your time educating assholes. All you get in the end is an asshole who now thinks he's educated."

:evilgrin:

[MissB]

7. The problem is that

the Republicans have been using lies and fear to win office. Your friend may believe that the American people will continue to believe the lies and feel the fear.

Their downfall is that they do not protest and cannot think for themselves. That screams to me an unwillingness to fight. They don't waste time protesting - because they do not believe in their cause with their own hearts.

The Democrats are fighting. That's why Dean is chair. Your friend should be afraid, very afraid. That "yearrrgghhh" he hears in the background is the sound of the Democratic grassroots rising up to take back democracy.

[gratuitous]

8. He doesn't see any propaganda?

Three hours a day of Rabid Rush, followed by a session with the Savage Weiner and a couple of hours of Brit, and he doesn't see any propaganda at all!

Your correspondent is a dumbass. It's not too late to make a New Year's Resolution to carve such people out of your life, and this clown looks like a good place to start.

[NoSheep]

9. Suggest that he inlist.

[beam me up scottie]

10. "Republicans don't waste their time protesting...

in streets waving dumb catch phrase laiden placcards like liberals do. We have better things to do with our time, like working!"

Yeah, that and sending their homosexual detectors to sniff out SpongeBob fans!

Not to mention the time they save not learning how to spell:
laiden s/b laden
placcards s/b placards

[AP]

11. If "reality" is on the sides of the Republicans, why are they trying so

hard to manipulate people's perception of reality with fake journalists, paying journalists to prop up the administration, and by trying to fire everyone from CNN execs to liberal professors who have the slightest opinion contrary to what the administration wants people to think?

[laura888]

12. "relatively modest and unasuming most of the time"

somehow this didn't apply when they were screaming for Clinton's impeachment.

[CO Liberal]

13. Remind Him That the Germans Elected Hitler....

...and that even a crook like Nixon was re-elected in 1972.

As Lincoln (one of the original Republicans) once said, you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time.....

[Hamlette]

14. agree with him when he says:

I simply believe in personal freedom, with standards of decency, fiscal freedom, personal responsibility, and a logical foreign and domestic policy that puts our security first. Why do you have a problem with that?

you say: I believe in all those things too. From my side, however, it looks to me like you don't. You don't seem to believe in personal freedom for gays or protestors or women who don't want to give birth. And my standards of decency require compassion for those in need, honesty, repudiation of the politics of personal destruction and paying my own way including my fair share of those things our taxes buy like roads and courts and police. Fiscal freedom is essential. The government doesn't stand in my way of fiscal freedom. I take personal responsibility for everything. Even being right when I said there were no WMD in Iraq. Does your prez? I agree, security comes first which is why I was against the war in Iraq. Now we know the truth. Iraq was NO threat to our security.

[No Exit]

15. "You accuse me of being blinded by propaganda. I don't see it."

Whoop! There it is! The essence of a propaganda-blinded sheep.

To: Freeper Fascist X: Hey IDIOT! You just made the point. You DON'T see it. That was the POINT, stupid!

[HughBeaumont]

16. "FISCAL Freedom?"

So why the fuck do you support a guy who is bankrupting generations via crippling debt and deficits to make a scant percentage of his rich friends richer, moran?

[Redneck Socialist]

17. Ignore him

He writes, "I simply believe in personal freedom, with standards of decency, fiscal freedom, personal responsibility, and a logical foreign and domestic policy that puts our security first."

You could ask him why he supports bush then, because the bush administration is none of those things, but I suspect that you will be wasting your time.

[Zenaholic]

18. Set him straight

The repukes have turned the word "liberal" into a bad thing. Instead call yourself a progressive. And the opposite of progressive is regressive.

You're not anti-American, you're "anti-amurikan".

It sounds like the guys has some good beliefs so agree with him.

Personal freedom - Talking points are The patriot act, Gitmo, "freedom of speech zones"

Standards of decency - torture, poverty

Fiscal freedom - surplus (under Clinton), tax cuts/increased spending, largest trade deficit ever

Personal Responsibility - Where are the WMDs? Where is OBL? Where is the $9 Bil., Who's responsible for the tortures? Who is responsible for 9/11? How about the Anthrax mailer? This administration has none (personal responsibility).

Logical foreign policy - Like invading a sovereign nation based on lies. , telling our allies they are irrelevant one day and then asking for their help the next? I think logical is not a word to describe the current policy.

Logical domestic policy that put security first - to quote Ben Franklin "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety", B*sh's environmental policies are completely based on corporations needs and cares little for damage done to our beautiful country

That's just a few that spring to mind. I'm sure you can find many more things to talk about posted on these pages but if you are going to attempt to talk to this guy about this stuff, try to turn it around on him as much as you can. Make him defend his views. Like how can you be for a logical foreign policy and still support the administration that lies about the reason we have invaded the sovereign nation of Iraq?

I think the problem with most of us progressives nowadays is we tend to be defensive in our stances. We should assume we are right and make "them" defend their stances.

[paineinthearse]

19. Tell him to put his money (life) where his mouth is - ENLIST!

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[Pepperbelly]

20. Fart in his general direction. nt

[Abbalon]

21. Please

where can we find this poor soul? I can't seem to convince RimJob to let me play at FR. I do enjoy freepers on an open board.

[Individualist]

22. Cultists can't comprehend reason.

Don't waste your time responding to the fool.

[applegrove]

23. Reality is the picture I am showing you?

Yup - this is pictures. Smoke and Mirrors are another name for it. You just run around and repeat and repeat and demand that it be true. But your coalition requires that people behave like autonomies and stop thinking. It requires that people buy this budget crisis, the one Bush created, as unavoidable.

Your rhetoric requires that Americans continue to see themselves as special and as the biggest Democracy on the planet. This is old 'music' and every Western nation in the world has to adapt to emerging markets and a reorder of things. America will loose its place and you will not be able to hide the lack of jobs from the people. You will not be able to hide this phony spending spree you put America on with low interest rates.

Mortgages will fail. Jobs will continue to be lost. Americans will wake up every day, and many do now, and they will know that their lifestyle is much less than it was in the 10 decades before. Your attempt at turning people religious, or to drug them with huge salaries if they are in the business world - it will fail.

Everything about your administration is about an assault on the middle class and an attempt of corporations to get out of their role: tools invented by people to make the lives of people better. Your current gutting of all things middle class will come back to haunt you. The pendulum will swing back and knock over this present generation of corporate leaders.

The human genome will demonstrate exactly the cost of poisoning our environment. Increases in poverty across the USA, as growth of the USA slows to a level of 2% to -2% for the next 75 years, will prove once and for all that no matter how they package it, and no matter what message they keep repeating, this particular Republican Party is only out for the elites. And economic policies that try and perpetuate elites end up perpetuating poverty. Indeed it is a requirement that the middle class disappear and loose meaningful power for you to survive.

I am a liberal. I am for policy based on science and new information. I am for values that are based on empathy - that originally came out of the monotheistic tradition and were improved upon with the writings and thinkings of the Enlightenment. I am a citizen of the world. And I am very much a human being. And I know, as if I needed to re-learn the lesson, that nothing good ever comes out of the elites having too much control.

The old Republican Party may be erased by you forever - I do not know. But those of you in power will have given the world a great gift. The gift of letting us human beings see into the heart of the corporation run rampant. It could have occurred in 50 years when corporations were absolutely huge and bigger than any government. Thank god it didn't occur then. Thank you for being so vain and hurried that it happened at this day and in this time You demonstrated to us the real battle we as human beings face in the next Century. We had no idea how easily and quickly a democracy could be dismantled. We had no idea how truly vulnerable Liberal Democracies were. We had no idea how corporations, and their bees, really felt about human beings. We will have to study and adapt a whole body of information to make new rules on how to regulate corporations and how to ensure the corporations never ever work their way out of their role as the tools of human beings they were created to be. The number of things that will have to be looked at with 'new eyes' are overwhelming. Elites, princes & the peas, the human genome, psychology, sociopathy & corporations, etc. etc.

At times homo sapiens have gotten really bold and said "heck - I'm tired of hunting for grubs all the time ... you see that mastodon over there? I think I am going to have to have me a go at that!! And guess what? When they applied human ingenuity to the problem ... and mastodons were ******* big! And mastodons are no more. And they were very human people who did this ... they were not nearly as smart as we are ... they were Neanderthals. Have you no idea of how hard we liberals will be thinking about these little bits of interesting information you have let us witness over the last few years? You have motivated the intelligencia of the whole world. You have motivated Russian to make 'ownership' laws regarding their oil industry just this week.

What up? Thank you for the 411! We had no idea.:hug:

[Kansas Wyatt]

24. Ask if the freeper signed Bush's "Loyalty Card"

Then ask when in American History, has any President of the United States ever demanded an oath of absolute loyalty from the people who attended his appearances. "Freedom" - "Loyalty Card", which one is unAmerican?

[AndyTiedye]

25. Ask Him...

Since the Republicans are in control of the whole government now,

Why was 9/11 allowed to happen, when Boosh** had plenty of warning?

Why are we we still engaged in a war in Iraq, almost 2 years after
the "mission" was supposed to have been "accomplished"?

Why is the deficit at record high levels, when Clinton left us a surplus?

Why has the dollar been dropping like a lead baloon during Boosh**'s regime?

Why are there fewer jobs than when Clinton left office? That hasn't
happened since Herbert Hoover. The jobs pay less, too.

He can't blame the Democrats for any of this, we are out of power.

[GiovanniC]

26. Here's the Thing... Some Republicans != All Republicans

Basically, in a very simplistic form, there are a few categories of Republicans.

Evil Fascist Rat-Bastard Republicans: Cheney. Rove. Rumsfeld. These are the Republicans who are in charge right now. Their lives are filled with hatred and contempt. For them, everything revolves around how to expand their sphere of power and wealth. Nothing else matters... not even brave U.S. soldiers. There is literally no hope for these Republicans.

Clueless and/or Wimpy Republicans: Bush. McCain. Powell. These are the types of Republicans who are just as complicit in the actions of those from the first category because their actions or inactions allow those plans to go forward. They are not the ones fronting the evil plans, but they are aware of them and they are not stopping them.

Freepers: You know these guys. See also: Coulter. Rush. Hannity. These are a unique brand of Republicans because in almost all cases they exhibit the hatred and contempt that is common in the first group, yet whereas the first group makes millions or even billions from their evil deeds, Freepers require no monetary motivation to hate... the hate is its own motivation. In real life, they are sad, pathetic shells, exerting no control over their own lives, they seek solace in the power they weild vicariously through the racism and bigotry of the Republican party.

One-Note Republicans: Varies. These are the people who believe so strongly about one particular issue (abortion, homosexuality, etc.) that they will vote for a Republican even if it is completely against all their other interests to do so. These are the people who would rather eat dry cat food on the streets than see gays get married, and would rather pursue multiple massive wars than allow safe, accessible abortions for women who make that choice.

Clueless Sheeple Republicans: Your friend (likely). Anyone who makes less than $200,000 a year yet still voted for Bush. By far the most prevalent of the groups, these people are so busy with work, school, soccer practices, school plays, PTA meetings, mowing the lawn, buying the groceries, etc. that they do not have nor do they make any time to educate themselves about current events except for a very shallow interpretation given to them by TV or (worse) radio talk shows. At the end of the day, their goals (good economy, safe America, good education, strong environment, affordable health care, etc.) are the same as ours, even if we differ on how to achieve those goals. In many ways, these types of Republicans are both the most tolerable and the most frustrating. Tolerable because if we think about it, we know they aren't motivated by hatred the way others are; but frustrating, because we feel like we could win them over if they would just LISTEN to us. Sometimes that actually happens -- I've seen it.

I think it's important not to lump all Republicans into one particular grouping, even though it's tempting to do so. They all share the culpability, true... but there are degrees to the amount of wrong each has done: Your friend != Rove != Freepers != Powell.

[amazona]

27. block his email, ignore his rants

The less time we spend posting and responding to obvious nonsense, the better. You already know your friend disrespects your deepest held beliefs. Best to block future emails from the twerp and go on to more productive matters. Racists don't change. The best you can do is offer them social ostracism -- that does mean ignoring them instead of rewarding them with your attention.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[WLKjr]

28. Fuck'em and here's why

We have better things to do with our time, like working!



That is the standard for them. Rush The magic Dragon has told them so all these years.

[Stop_the_War]

29. UPDATE

By the way, this is on a forum, not email.

I asked him quite simply,"If you support the war so much, then why aren't you in Iraq?"

His response was this big pile of shit:
and since you're such a staunch opponent of the war, why weren't you in Iraq, before the war, as a human shield? Why aren't you in Iran, so that you can help to defend the poor Iranaians from the US?

To which I responded,"Yet another instance of you avoiding a question, I asked quite simply, "If you support the war in Iraq so much, then WHY THE HELL don't you enlist?"

I'm still waiting for this freak's answer.

[GiovanniC]

30. Dude, Where's This At?

If you don't mind saying.

[geomon666]

32. Hooboy....I could have some real fun with this.

You accuse me of being manipulated by propaganda; i don't see it. I simply believe in personal freedom, with standards of decency, fiscal freedom, personal responsibility, and a logical foreign and domestic policy that puts our security first. Why do you have a problem with that?


We don't have a problem with any of that. But that's not what bush is doing. How dare you claim not to be manipulated and say that's what you believe in? It's not. You believe in murdering innocent women and children to make money (not for you...you're too damn stupid, but for your ruler). You believe in restricting freedoms so that no one can delve too deeply into how much of a slime you really are. And personal responsibility? Those words are poison to you. You'll maim and kill whoever you like and then when someone calls you out on it you'll place that death before the alter of freedom. Your rulers are thugs, murders, and traitors. And a personal hell is awaiting all of them, even those who support their murderous regime.

You can't even answer a simple question. You resort to your propaganda and dittoheadspeak. You're pathetic beyond words and I can only hope the person you chose to latch your foul existance on cuts your sorry ass loose. If you were really a man and believed in what you are doing is right, then go over to the war zone and enforce it. They need a few 'good' men to continue the slaughter.

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34. What a morAn!

"Republicans don't waste their time protesting in streets waving dumb catch phrase laiden placcards like liberals do."

Well, one thing is for sure. He never attended a freeper rally.

PS: He misspelled laden and placards.