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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:02 PM
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Could the U.S. be behind Hariri's assassination?
I've been wondering if the Neo-cons, via CIA or Pentagon 'special ops' or someother goup, couldn't have 'stirred the pot' alittle by assassinating Hariri. It would give us another rationale to pursue Syria and expand the 'war on terror'. Aren't they looking for another excuse?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:03 PM
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1. crossed my mind
I wouldn't put anything past Bushie and Co.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:04 PM
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2. I say we just do all the investigating we can do. I say the Lebaneese
should hold all the big powers around them responsible. I say the Lebaneese tell them all to go to hell and lock down their borders.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:04 PM
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3. Anything is possible. Especially knowing who we are dealing wiith.
I wondered the very same thing sincewe know they are dying to get in there and a little pot sitting might just do the trick. Hard to know who they will go after first however- Syria or Iran. Either way, it's clear that we are going to do something.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:05 PM
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4. It would help support the need to contain Syria
Off the guy then blame Syria and the game is on.
A few properly places media whores and they are off an running to an agenda that pushes the bombing of Syria.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:07 PM
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5. Wouldn't surprise me one bit
This ridiculous claim that Syria assassinated him is without merit. Hariri was a popular moderate. There are plenty of other high-profile politicians in Lebanon that speak out against the Syrian occupation that would have been better targets.

Social Security reform is tanking (thank God), and * knows nothing about domestic policy other than bringing Christ into every aspect of our lives. The only thing this administration is good at is bombing third-world countries. I hear drum beats......
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:41 PM
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18. A popular moderate leader is a threat n the ME.
That could lead to stability....and make our presence in the region more difficult to justify.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:05 PM
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25. Touche n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:09 PM
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6. Plausible -- sure. (nt)
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 12:09 PM by understandinglife


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dmkinsey Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:09 PM
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7. My thoughts too
I said something about this in a thread yesterday.
Who benefits from Hariri's assassination?
Those who want a war involving US and Syria.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:15 PM
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11. Continuing destabilization of the region
Which follows the plan they *PNACH* set forth in their writings.

Yeppers. Here we go.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:10 PM
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8. I've felt sick for a day or two now.
Could "we" be responsible, behind it, black ops, yes. Damn, I feel sick.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:11 PM
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9. It's the first thought that entered my mind
US and Israel. And with the unlimited power thtat the pentagon now has, they can do anything they wish.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:12 PM
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10. It occurred to me
I'm reading Robert Parry's "Secrecy & Privilege and reading all the stuff about Iran and the contras when Reagan was running for President makes me very suspicious.

A little plug for Parry who is a really good reporter:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/index.html
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:18 PM
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12. Consider how the media has automatically
accepted that Syria is behind the assassination in Lebanon. There's no question at all it's just taken as a given. Also look at how fast the Bush administration reacted by recalling the ambassador to Syria. There's no waiting to see who the responsible party may have been. It's Syria and no need to look any deeper even though it could have been any one of several suspects. That to me means this was something orchestrated by our government.

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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:18 PM
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13. YES.
I believe this was an operation carried out by Rumsfeld's new covert action group. Bush wants a wider war in the Middle East.

Hariri was a big obstacle to a new war because he was talking and negotiating with Syria. He had to be removed and the Bush regime did it.

The circumstantial proof is the withdrawal of the US ambassador from Syria, even while the US is saying they have no idea who was behind the bombing. So tension is racheted-up ... laying the propaganda groundwork for an attack.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:20 PM
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14. It was my first thought, when i heard about the assassination.
hey...just noticed, the break down of the word................ass+ass-ination...well...yeah!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:20 PM
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15. I wouldn't put anything past this present administration.
So far their activities have been by the book in following in the footsteps of Hitler and assassinations were always part of the Nazi M/O.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:30 PM
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16. Who stands to gain the most?
The U.S. and Israel.

Who stands to lose the most? Syria.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:32 PM
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17. this is an interesting read on him and
the intricacies of the politics surrounding his death.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/7EFAB726-9014-495D-8939-187E68035462.htm
Aljazeera.Net - Who benefits from al-Hariri's death?
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petron Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:43 PM
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19. They've pulled our Syrian envoy out of Syria
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/02/16/MNG71BBIJO1.DTL

The Bush administration took an aggressive stance against Syria Tuesday as it pulled its ambassador back from Damascus, called the Syrian military presence in Lebanon a "destabilizing force" and warned it would seek to put an end to "foreign occupation" of Lebanon.

This chain of diplomatic events, which marked a new low in already frayed relations, is intended to "put Syria on the defensive and makes them very, very nervous," said Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

<snip>

The neo-cons are pretty quick to blame Syria for the assassination.

I wonder if we will hear the state department make an announcement soon that all US citizens should leave Sryia.

Things sure are getting scary over there.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:46 PM
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20. Absolutely possible. Even if we still lived in Free America it would have
been possible.

Now it's probable.

Gives the Busheviks a good chance to go after Syria if they want.

I wonder if they are opening options for EITHER Syria or Iran.

Would the Totalitarian Bastards that rule the Amerikan Empire murder to create what the Soviets called a 'masikirovka' and, not coincidentally, the same type of operation the Nazis performed in Poland to 'justify" THEIR Iraqi Invasion?

Of course it would.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:47 PM
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21. "It is important to shape circumstances...."
"It is important to shape circumstances...." - PNAC Statement of Principles.

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Terencep Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:49 PM
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22. Interesting Conspiracy Theory
I had the same thought as soon as I heard the story. After 18
months or so of relative peace in Lebanon, it was not in
Syria's best interest to be linked to a high profile political
assassination. The type and nature of the murder is also
interesting because it was so very high tech. There seems to
be little to no evidence left of the bomb or detination type,
and most of the violence based groups in the region have never
operated with this level of sophistication. Who would gain by
Harriri's (did i get the name right) death? The fact that
Syria and Iran all but declared an alliance today makes this
even more interesting. I hate to say it, but there is a huge
population in around the "beltway" strongly
associated with the Department of Defense and several US
allies - and not under any rules of Congressional oversight -
who would benefit greatly by prolonged conflicts in Syria,
Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Kurdistan, even Israel. It's freightening
actually. How to prove it though?
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:53 PM
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23. Would not surprise me at all....
People seem to not understand that our CIA makes the former KGB look like a bunch of Boy Scouts.

Another thing that has puzzled me about Bush's war on terror in Iraq is about the terrorist running around chopping off heads. If he knows he is going to be blamed for it and he knows that the U.S. has the technology to blame him for it, then why does he mask his face on the film footage?

What sense does it make to cover up the identity of his face, or could it really be someone else (covert operation) and we are only told by our Government that it was a certain terrorist?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:35 PM
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26. Could that be the work of the new SS???..
Remember, the Pentagon has that new epsionage unit that is doing covert black ops shit -- who says they couldn't be doing Syria as well as Iran?


And with Goss giving the boot to any of the old school CIA who have been against the whole PNAC adventure from the start, I fear what they may also be up to these days...

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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:54 PM
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24. I've been wondering the same thing too....
awful conveninet for Syria to kick up a hornet's nest out of the blue.

Might even warrant a pre-emptive strike, and then we'll have free and clear access from Afghanistan to the Bering Sea.


that's one option.

ANother option is that Syria has been wanting to do this for a good long while, and now that it's obvious we're over-extended, and our next main concerns are Iran and North Korea, why not get it while the getting's good and the US of A can't do anything.
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