Are the dems doomed to repeat history with the Gannon/Guckert story?

[merwin]

Let's look at the situation we were in around November:
* Election lost, widespread evidence of fraud (let's use Ohio as an example).
* Blogs going nuts over this, forming a decent sized group of people investigating, coming up with more than enough circumstantial evidence
* Much letter writing and calling to senators and house members
* Some scattered protests, a few hundred people each
* Conyers sends 10 or so letters to Blackwell, who ignores all of them
* Not enough people in the Senate/House to force any reasonable debate
* Barbara Boxer and some dem House members very publically protest Ohio's electors.
* None of it got more than a small hint of media coverage.

Now let's look at the situation we're in now with the Gannon/Guckert story:
* Gannon makes a fool of himself misquoting a dem in a presidential press conference
* Blogs going nuts over this, forming a decent sized group of people investigating, coming up with more than enough circumstantial evidence
* Letter writing to senators and house members has started
* Conyers and others sending letters to various people, getting no response
* None of it is getting more than a small hint of media coverage.

Does this road look familiar to anyone? We're doing exactly what they want us to do. It's already been proven that the corporate media does not want to cover a few senators and house members doing their job and trying as best as they can to get information. Since it's being ignored by the majority party, there is no story. It's also been proven that the corporate media does not want to investigate anything at all, no matter how potentially juicy, for whatever reason.

I think that we need to brainstorm ways get media attention. As they say in the entertainment industry, even bad press is good press. We need to find creative ways to be, for lack of a better phrase, attention whores.

Anyways, that's just my 54 cents on the issue (a penny's just not worth the same anymore since * took office)

[Mojambo]

1. There were no gay hookers involved in the Election Fraud stories

At least that I know of...

It makes a difference to the entertainment media we've been saddled with.

Gannon looks like a big patsy to me. I worry that Rove has this story completely under control.

[merwin]

4. I do admit, the gay hooker thing does add a little something to the story!

That, plus some creative methods of getting into the news might get some attention.

I do think that Letters to the Editor make a difference. If enough of them get sent to the same newspaper (well written), maybe a few will get printed.

[peacetalksforall]

11. Maybe Dems in swing states should come out and say that they ran

ba**s for hire sites during the convention, the campaign, and on election night and that some are still running them, but as far as we know, no one has asked for a press pass and all of the site operators wrote their own web words and their photos were professionally taken. Maybe that would shake up MSMs and the foundations for Dem condemnation and destruction.

[Zan_of_Texas]

2. Good points.

With the election fraud stuff, there are a number of remedies -- recounts (fair recounts, that is), a reversal of installations of DREs, paper ballots required, and a number of other policy and procedure items.

But, in the case of Gannon/Guckert, the Rs can say, hey, he resigned from Talon, what's your beef? Shaddup!

So, what is it we want? (Besides media coverage of a juicy story with many facets.)

grasswire mentioned she wants the power of deciding who gets to be in the White House press corps taken AWAY from the White House, and ceded back to a group of White House reporters. That is a good idea. Otherwise, reporters can be punished (like Helen Thomas, sent to the back row) by being ignored or banned.

Cong. Slaughter and Conyers have written to the Chicago US Attorney asking for further investigation re the Plame angle. Good.

So, what else do we want?

Apparently this story is scaring the pants off the big media.....so to speak. I suppose we have to find the rest of the story ourselves, as usual, then beat the big media over the head with it?

I do believe there IS a rest of the story here, too.

[merwin]

5. This story is just the tip of the iceburg. Whoever cracks it might get

fame :-)

[bush_is_wacko]

3. I say screw the MSM. i have been passing messages to everyone I know

Even the Republican's and I can clearly see a HUGE insurgence of people on the internet asking questions and researching for themselves.

Main stream media is going to wake up soon and realize to late that bushhitler is taking us to war in Iran and or Syria, impeachment proceedings have already begun and the entire country knows it and they also know MSM DIDN'T BOTHER to report it!

America is going to be pissed! I am also finding out that the same sort of non-reporting went on during the Nixon impeachment but people only remember the aftermath.

BTW, if you listen close enough, bits and pieces are being reported, they just have no depth.

[deacon]

6. Me too, I bring it up as often as I can, even in supermarket checkout

lines lol. Jon Stewart hitting on this story tonight will help in spreading the word too.

[calimary]

8. And don't forget Keith Olbermann, and now Court TV's Catherine

Crier, too.

[merwin]

7. Word of mouth is very powerful. It's the 'Pay it forward' mentality.

You tell 5 people about it. Even if only 2 of those 5 people tell 5 more people, it doubles, without much effort.

[bush_is_wacko]

9. And it works! I have made a weekly trip to "the mall" not to shop

but to go sit at Starbucks or Barnes and Noble for a few hours reading or looking for books or whatever. When I park I park in a highly trafficked area and wait until I can find a place somewhere in the middle of an aisle. I leave about a dozen deception dollars under my windshield wipers and without fail they are always gone when I get back. No one has keyed my car or written me a nasty note or anything. I have my Democratic Underground sticker displayed on my car where most can see and still NOTHING. If a kid takes a dozen of those things and passes them out to friends every week at school I figure I'm doing a pretty good job of spreading the word. There are websites all over those things! I have never seen one on the ground as I drive away. Pay it forward, and I don't have to do anything but sit and drink coffee and read a book. I'd be doing it anyway, might as well do it in a bookstore or coffee store!

BTW, I live in Bush country and not a single soul has bothered to leave a message behind for me! I've got two hundred of the things and i intend to buy more if need be, they were cheap. I think 14 bucks for all two hundred!

[merwin]

10. Just like neocons to steal something without even saying thank you! j/k

Let's hope it's not one person taking all of them and throwing them away. However, I think that it's probably someone who thinks it's great and wants to pass it around.

[cry baby]

12. This administration reminds me of the alien ships in the movie

"Independence Day" when we start shooting at them. Nothing gets thru.

[merwin]

13. Now what exactly did Will Smith do to kill them? I THINK he got into

one of their ships and flew it in.

If that's what happened, it might shed some light on a possible tactic... Turn the tables on them and start using their tactics. That would include large scale press releases by major figures in the Democratic party talking about Gannon and making him seem like the most evil person ever.