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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:37 AM
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I'm done with the Washington Journal
One, they act like the Peak Oil issue is unimportant since they never actually discuss the "real" factors that led to the invasion of Iraq.

Two, I can't stand listening to all of these morons calling into the show, wanting to respond, and never, I mean never, being able to get a call through.

I'm sick of it!

What? They don't accept calls from Cellular Phones?

I'm done. I don't want to just keep sitting here listening to all of these stupid people calling in saying things like Bush shouldn't be held accountable because he's from the "tree of David," like that means that he is a "good guy." Is she so stupid that she thinks that everyone that's a descendant of King David is a "good person"? If she wasn't so shortsighted, she'd realize that the antichrist, according to her "doctrine" is also going to be a "descendant of David". Does that mean that he should be allowed to do whatever he wants to? No, and it doesn't mean that Bush is "righteous" either.

And I can never get through to C-Span to respond to morons like her, so I'm done with it!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:40 AM
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1. Isn't that Owned by Moon..??
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:41 AM
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2. I said the "Washington Journal"
Not the Washington Times.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:28 PM
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20. I've wondered about Washington journal too actually.
they legitiamize the Moonie Times - have their reporters on, read from them in the mornings...never ever explaining that who we're listenign to prattling on about this that or the other, is a moonie.


it's sort of subversive the way sneak conservative opinion in without mentioning it as such, but then agian, it seems, no different from any other media news outlet. I've often thought about writing to them, but never get around to it.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:45 AM
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3. well, hit redial a lot more often.
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 07:46 AM by thebigidea
also if you gave guff to the operator, they might be blocking your number or something.

I've gotten through just about every time I've tried, though sometimes it takes 20-30 minutes of hitting redial.

...and oil is brought up just about every morning by callers.

I love WJ, its an alternately calm and infuriating way to wake up - I love the lack of commercials and music, and the leisurely newspaper reading. It certainly beats anything on the other networks.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:05 AM
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6. I'm not talking about "oil being brought up by the callers"
I'm talking about a discussion of peak oil with a guest on the show like Michael C. Ruppert or someone.

They will not go there.

They're sold out.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:06 AM
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7. I'll take Greg Palast over Vreeland-pushing Ruppert any day.
they have Palast on - does that means they sold out?

they have Chomsky on. Zinn. the only station that covers protests and rallies in FULL.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:16 AM
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14. Greg Palast rambles too much for me
He also "withdraws" when someone lashes out about his viewpoints.

He's too nice.

Put Ruppert on. He has an attitude.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:53 AM
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16. yeah, some attitude
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 08:53 AM by thebigidea
he just "withdrew" from 9/11 investigation, said it was a dead end or past its prime or whatever.

you'd think that sort of thing would be important enough to continue.

His pushing of the Vreeland crap with no retractions or misgivings is enough for me to be extremely suspicious.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:54 PM
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19. I saw Palast on Insanity and Colmes once
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 12:56 PM by independentchristian
and Palast punked down, rolled over and played dead every time that Sean Insanity threw out a weak line with no real information to back it up.

Palast was like, "Sean, hey Sean, uh, uh" with that stupid looking smile on his face.

I was severely disappointed that he didn't put Hannity in his place, but just rolled over. He may as well been Colmes.

Give me someone like Dean who will shoot them down in their faces with his words. Or Dennis Kucinich. Last time Dennis was on the show, he basically dismissed everything that Hannity said as bologna and basically just brushed him off, leaving Hannity just staring at the camera.

It was hilarious!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:50 AM
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4. "Tree of David"??!!
Are the wackos now essentially stating that he is the second coming of The Christ? Because that is what this intimates.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 07:52 AM
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5. "pray for him... because he is very special," she added.
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 07:53 AM by thebigidea
I once saw him give a blind man sight - I swear it.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:07 AM
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8. Yeah, and by her logic
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 08:09 AM by independentchristian
The "antichrist" is also "very special" because he has a "purpose" as well.

Doesn't mean that that purpose is in your best interest, just like Bush's isn't.

Do you see why shortsighted people like her get on my nerves?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:09 AM
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9. well, doesn't the antichrist have a purpose in that mythology?
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 08:10 AM by thebigidea
how could christ return if there wasn't an antichrist?

hell, I didn't write that book. If this god needs an antichrist, i'd say he's fulfilling a purpose.

With me, anyone who takes Revelations as anything more than especially hallucinogenic poetry gets on my nerves.
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:10 AM
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11. ???
Isn't that what I just said?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:11 AM
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12. you said by her logic, implying that it wasn't your logic
what logic can you possibly find in that mass of contradictory phantasia?
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:13 AM
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13. As well as "reality"
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 08:15 AM by independentchristian
Most of what you think is "real" is a myth, so join the freaking club.

By "her logic," I'm talking about the way she thinks, duh, and no, it's not "my logic" because I don't think the same way that she does.

The next time you want to "lump me" in a system of "groupthink" you can save the crap, okay.

Let me go to work...
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:17 AM
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15. what do I think is real, and how do you know about it?
"By "her logic," I'm talking about the way she thinks, duh, and no, it's not "my logic" because I don't think the same way that she does."

er, yes. obviously. I was playing devil's advocate from her point of view - you mockingly implied that she probably thinks the antichrist has a purpose... well, doesn't he in that belief system, though?
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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:43 PM
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17. Incorrect
I was saying that she was "overlooking the obvious" correlations between Bush's "ancestry" and the antichrist's "ancestry," and she was doing so because of her "blind affection" for Bush, which prevents her from seeing the obvious ignorance in the belief that she has the Bush is on "God's side."

That's what I was saying.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:10 AM
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10. He IS Very Special
in a developmentally disabled, brain addled ex-drunk sort of way.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:52 PM
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18. Someone called in and said Bush was from the Tree of David?
OK. This is nuts.
Now, the moonbeams are actually trying to equate Bush with the Son of God.
:wow:
What lunacy!
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:31 PM
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21. oh it was nuts.
The guy even asked her to clarify how she knew and she jsut said "It's true believe me."

so he tried a different line of reaosning and asked ehr if she was ok witht he world ending, and she said "well revelations say the world will end in a storm of fire - that's jsut how it is. go read revelations it tells' you everythign you need to know"


she was scary, because she wasn't hysterical, she was jsut matter of fact about the whole thing.
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