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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:08 AM
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What is a "journalist?"
What's the difference between a real journalist and a fake one?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:09 AM
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1. Better question...
Define the White House Press Corp.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:18 AM
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4. Why is that a better question?
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 11:19 AM by BurtWorm
The White House Press Corps defines itself. They're the ones who make the rules determining access to the briefings. They're the ones who have said they're not going to change the rules because they don't want to get into the question of what a journalist is.

PS: But I am interested in that question, now that I think of it. :hi:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:38 AM
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9. hee hee
I think you got my point. :)

"Journalist" can be broadly defined.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=journalist
2 entries found for journalist.
jour·nal·ist ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jûrn-lst)
n.
One whose occupation is journalism.
One who keeps a journal.

and "journalism"
2 entries found for journalism.
jour·nal·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jûrn-lzm)
n.
The collecting, writing, editing, and presenting of news or news articles in newspapers and magazines and in radio and television broadcasts.
Material written for publication in a newspaper or magazine or for broadcast.
The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.
Newspapers and magazines.
An academic course training students in journalism.
Written material of current interest or wide popular appeal.



Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


journalism

n 1: newspapers and magazines collectively 2: the profession of reporting or photographing or editing news stories for one of the media


BUT: White House Press Corp is very specific in the field of 'journalism'
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:17 AM
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2. A fake one has a degree from Columbia
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:17 AM
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3. By definition
a journalist is a person who regularly publishes articles on current events based on the classic 5 Ws in a recognized press medium and earns the majority of income from that endeavor.

The 5 Ws are Who, What, When, Where and Why.

Gannon/Guckert meets none of this definition.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:19 AM
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5. I don't know about the majority of income part
Lots of freelancers out there.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:27 PM
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10. Majority of income is the White House definition to get a press
pass.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:21 AM
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6. There are specific requirements...
A "journalist" is a person who writes for a news organization whose main source of revenue is either from paid subscriptions or paid outside advertising.

Normally, a "journalist" is hired because of his/her Clips Portfolio (a compilation of writing samples published in legitimate College and/or mainstream print media venues). This ensures proper training and potential for success if hired.

The "journalist's" main source of income must be salary paid by the news organization.

This is why Congress denied Guckert/Gannon press credentials.

He was paid only a stipend ($1500, I think) the whole time he "worked" for Talon News, which can not show that its revenues come from either paid subscriptions or outside advertising.
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ClassicDem Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:30 AM
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7. There is no difference.
All a journalist is, is a person who writes for a news publication. It does not matter what the publication is, how long they have been a journalist or what type of education they have, they are still a journalist. Guckert may be a terrible journalist but people should not fall into the trap of saying he is a fake one.

This Gannon flap is going to have zero effect on the White House but what it will do is give MsM power over smaller independent news outlets that will now be portrayed as fake journalist by MsM to the public.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 11:33 AM
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8. I tend to agree with you.
You said it very well. :toast:
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