Wanna screw with Bush???

[firebee]

Get the Repubs to start beating the war drums in Saudi Arabia's direction. Their's no way Bush will declare war on Saudi Arabia due to his financial interests, but every Republican I talk to hates Saudi Arabia. We may not be able to get Repubs to quit hating, but at least we can start redirecting their hatred to the real culprits behind 9/11 and completely undermine Bush's credibility at the same time.

Sun Tzu - Attack where the enemy is sure to come to the rescue. If we get repubs and dems alike to start attacking Saudi Arabia's involvement with 9/11 and the Saudi funding of terrorism, we may be able to effectively raise doubts.

[OneBlueSky]

1. no sex threads, please . . . n/t

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[liberal N proud]

2. How do you get the repuked to do anything against bu$h?

They follow him like sheep.

[coloradodem2005]

3. How could we do that?

[firebee]

6. Simply put, educate them on Saudi Arabia.

Anytime you see a report or an editorial implicating Saudi Arabia in the funding or promotion of terrorism, you post it on free republic and other repub sites like it. Keep presenting them evidence that Saudi Arabia is an imminent threat to the United States. Then when you draw the Repubs into a debate about retaliating against the islamic extremists in Saudi Arabia and they start asking "Why don't we kick those Saudi's asses", You start pointing out the fact that Citibank's primary investor is a Saudi Prince with 18 million dollars. You point out the fact that the Saudi investors of Aramco are invested in ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco and Vice Versa. When all is said and done... you tell them we're never going to get the terrorists in Saudi Arabia because George W. Bush is more worried about the financial interests of the corporations than he is about protecting the people.

[Wapsie B]

4. Sorry, I thought you were

talking about Victor Ashe.

:evilgrin:

[Ian David]

5. The Saudi embassy got caught distributing terrorist recruitment material

Why are they still allowed to stay in the country?

Why haven't we expelled their diplomats?

Here's the story:

http://www.freedomhouse.org/religion/news/bn2005/bn-2005-01-28.htm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Elyse Bauer, [phone] ext. 136 or Michael Goldfarb, (212)
514-8040 ext. 12
NEW REPORT ON SAUDI GOVERNMENT PUBLICATIONS IN U.S.

WASHINGTON, DC, January 28, 2005- Freedom House’s Center for Religious Freedom
released today a new report exposing the dissemination of hate propaganda in
America by the government of Saudi Arabia.

The 89-page report, “Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques,”
is based on a year-long study of over two hundred original documents, all
disseminated, published or otherwise generated by the government of Saudi
Arabia and collected from more than a dozen mosques in the United States.

The propagation of hate ideology by Saudi Arabia is known to be worldwide, but
its occurrence within the United States has received scant attention until now.
Within worldwide Sunni Islam, followers of Saudi Arabia’s extremist Wahhabi
ideology are a distinct minority, as is evident by the millions of Muslims who
have chosen to make America their home and are upstanding, law-abiding citizens
and neighbors.

The report concludes that the Saudi government propaganda examined reflects a
“totalitarian ideology of hatred that can incite to violence,” and the fact
that it is “being mainstreamed within our borders through the efforts of a
foreign government, namely Saudi Arabia, demands our urgent attention.” The
report finds: “Not only does the government of Saudi Arabia not have a right –
under the First Amendment or any other legal document – to spread hate ideology
within U.S. borders, it is committing a human rights violation by doing so.”

Such publications that “advocate an ideology of hatred have no place in a nation
founded on religious freedom and toleration,” write James Woolsey, chairman of
the board of Freedom House, in the foreword to the report.

Among the key findings of the report:

· Various Saudi government publications gathered for this study, most of which
are in Arabic, assert that it is a religious obligation for Muslims to hate
Christians and Jews and warn against imitating, befriending, or helping them in
any way, or taking part in their festivities and celebrations;

· The documents promote contempt for the United States because it is ruled by
legislated civil law rather than by totalitarian Wahhabi-style Islamic law.
They condemn democracy as un-Islamic;

· The documents stress that when Muslims are in the lands of the unbelievers,
they must behave as if on a mission behind enemy lines. Either they are there
to acquire new knowledge and make money to be later employed in the jihad
against the infidels, or they are there to proselytize the infidels until at
least some convert to Islam. Any other reason for lingering among the
unbelievers in their lands is illegitimate, and unless a Muslim leaves as
quickly as possible, he or she is not a true Muslim and so too must be
condemned.

For example, a document in the collection for the “Immigrant Muslim” bears the
words “Greetings from the Cultural Attache in Washington, D.C.” of the Embassy
of Saudi Arabia, and is published by the government of Saudi Arabia. In an
authoritative religious voice, it gives detailed instructions on how to “hate”
the Christian and Jew: Never greet them first. Never congratulate the infidel
on his holiday. Never imitate the infidel. Do not become a naturalized citizen
of the United States. Do not wear a graduation gown because this imitates the
infidel;

· One insidious aspect of the Saudi propaganda examined is its aim to replace
traditional and moderate interpretations of Islam with extremist Wahhabism, the
officially-established religion of Saudi Arabia. In these documents, other
Muslims, especially those who advocate tolerance, are condemned as infidels.
The opening fatwa in one Saudi embassy-distributed book, published by the Saudi
Air Force, responds to a question about a Muslim preacher in a European mosque
who taught that it is not right to condemn Jews and Christians as infidels. The
Saudi state cleric’s reply rebukes the Muslim cleric: “He who casts doubts about
their infidelity leaves no doubt about his.” Since, under Saudi law, “apostates”
from Islam can be sentenced to death, this is an implied death threat against
the tolerant Muslim imam, as well as an incitement to vigilante violence;

· Sufi and Shiite Muslims are viciously condemned;

a Muslim who fails to uphold the Saudi Wahhabi sect’s sexual mores (i.e. through
homosexual activity or heterosexual activity outside of marriage), the edicts
published by the Saudi government’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, and found in
American mosques advise, “it would be lawful for Muslims to spill his blood and
to take his money;”

· Regarding those who convert out of Islam, the Saudi Ministry of Islamic
Affairs explicitly asserts, they “should be killed;”

· Saudi textbooks and other publications in the collection, propagate a
Nazi-like hatred for Jews, treat the forged Protocols of the Elders of Zion as
historical fact, and avow that the Muslim’s duty is to eliminate the state of
Israel;

· Regarding women, the Saudi publications instruct that they should be veiled,
segregated from men and barred from certain employment and roles;

The report states: “While the government of Saudi Arabia claims to be ‘updating’
or reforming its textbooks and study materials within the Kingdom, its
publications propagating an ideology of hatred remain plentiful in some
prominent American mosques and Islamic centers, and continue to be a principal
resource available to students of Islam within the United States.”

The research, translation and principle analysis of the materials for the report
were carried out by both Muslims and non-Muslims who wish to remain anonymous
for reasons of security. Some 90 percent of the publications are in Arabic; two
independent translators reviewed each Arabic document. This project was
undertaken after many Muslims requested the Center’s help in exposing Saudi
extremism in the hope of freeing their communities from ideological
strangulation.

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