"Free Republic" is listed on C-SPAN's blog resource list, but DU is not?

[mzmolly]

http://www.c-span.org/resources/blogs.asp

WASHINGTON JOURNAL 2/14/2005)

INDIVIDUAL/GROUP BLOGS:

American Patrol
Andrew Sullivan
Blogs for Bush
Buzzmachine.com
Common Cause
Consortiumnews.com
Cybercast News Service
Daily KOS
Brad DeLong's Website
Daniel W. Drezner
Free Republic
David Frum's Diary
Gawker
Informed Comment
Instapundit
James Wolcott
Left2Right
Marc Cooper
MyDD
New Donkey
Pop & Politics
Public Agenda Blog
Samizdata.net
Spirit of America

INDIVIDUAL/GROUP BLOGS: cont.

Talking Points Memo
The Angry Arab News Service
The Black Republican
The Chicago Boyz
The Final Historian
The Smoking Room
The Washington Note by Steven C. Clemons
The Wonkette
Vegan Blog: The (Eco)Logical Weblog
Virginia Postrel

It's also listed on their front page on the right hand side, under blogs. http://www.c-span.org/

:shrug:

Contact them here, and ask them to list Democratic Underground. :hi:
http://www.c-span.org/about/contact.asp?code=About

[Norquist Nemesis]

1. Yup!

and it's not a blog either.

We should be demanding a resurrection of the Fairness Doctrine.

[greenmutha]

2. Done! n/t

[Oreo]

3. Email them and tell them

I just sent an email saying it's not a blog and that if they do consider it one, they should add DU

[e-mail]

[Imalittleteapot]

4. Done. Kick. n/t

[CrispyQ]

5. They don't want anyone to visit DU,

They might learn something!!

[illflem]

6. Pardon my ignorance

but what's the difference between a blog and message board?

[mzmolly]

7. I think a blog is an opinion site, and a forum/message board

is one like this. Though DU has opinions listed on the homepage, so I should be considered as much of a blog as FreeRepublic.

[mattclearing]

40. The homepage surely qualifies. n/t

[Worst Username Ever]

8. Done

"I am a little concerned that freerepublic.com is on your blog watch-list, but it's democratic counterpart, www.democraticunderground.com, is not. Perhaps you should consider adding DU.

Also, it should be noted that both Free Republic and Democratic Underground are not actual "blogs," but rather public message boards. A blog is generally updated by a specific individual or individuals, with no posting privledge to the public. Message boards can be posted to by anybody (although they reserve the right to delete your account if you fit their description of a "disruptor." Thanks..."

[mzmolly]

9. Thanks!

:hi:

[Ian David]

14. We are NOT their "Democratic Counterpart." In NO way do we equate to them

I'm not trying to get personal, I am just trying to re-frame the issue.

When I left a message for C-SPAN, I made sure to say that even ultra-right wing commentator Sean Hannity calls Free Republic "The Lunatic Fringe" and expressed my concern that they neglected the more rational and balanced DemocraticUnderground.com .

Not to mention the influential and widely-read Alternet.org .

We are not their "counterpart."

We are the rational, progressive voice of the Democratic party. Free Republic is the "lunatic fringe" of the right-wing extremists.

Does that work?

Suggestions, anyone?

[elshiva]

38. Freeperville is not an alternative to DU

Because:
1. It has no variety, while DU has forums on everything from cooking to Wesley Clark supporters to Fat Acceptance.
2.Freepers are all radical RW wing, few moderates there. We represent a wide variety of liberalism from Clinton New Democrats to Kucitizens to Green party members.
3. They are totally crappy website, but this site rules.
4. We've got better pictures and avatars than the Freepers.

[mattclearing]

41. I dunno. Do you read the posts around here?

I see shit here every bit as wacky as the wackiest shit over there. Sometimes I'm even the one posting it.

I'm not so sure of myself that I would pretend to be objective enough to say whether or not DU is an ideological foil to them.

I would hope we could find better company than that.

I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, though.

edited for typo

[burythehatchet]

21. not to be picky...

but I have never considered freakrepublic a counterpart of DU, by almost any measure.

[Ian David]

10. And what about Alternet?????

[Ian David]

11. Left a message on their comment line.

I also told them that ultra right-wing Sean Hannity even calls Free Republic "the lunatic fringe."

I suggested they add Alternet.org as well.

[paineinthearse]

12. Love it

When DU is listed, this certainly will open the troll gates. Can't wait!

:evilgrin:

[Sparkle]

13. Hi! Ya know I saw that on their homepage this morning

and looked at the list and saw freakrepublic. I, too, didn't notice that DU or other liberal blogs that I know of listed. Though some were. Did cspan always have this list on their website? The only reason I noticed it this morning is because I wanted to send them an email to invite one of my favorite reporters on their show.

It looks like I'll be sending another one to add DU to their blog list.

[Ian David]

15. Should we nominate this for the "greatest" page, encourage people to call?

Should we try and get a massive outpouring to C-SPAN?

[mzmolly]

17. The thread got one nomination, if you'd like to nominate it will be

a done deal. :hi:

[FreedomAngel82]

18. At least

DailyKos is listed. I'm glad of that. :bounce:

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Why are you surprised?

Go figure.

[Skidmore]

19. Exactly, Brian Lamb has got to be a freeper

himself. He is definitely a * fan and practically glows when he talks about him. Also, he's forever chatting of Murdoch and Faux News.

[Cocoa]

24. C-span has a fetish for the Moonie Times

and for the Weekly Standard and the American Enterprise institute.

C-span is the best place to go to see neocons spinning the Iraq war.

[Sparkle]

25. I have to disagree with ya there.

I don't think I have ever seen that man glow when he speaks of someone. LOL!

But I still like his station. I think he really urges his people to be fair and balanced. He started the station out that way and it will remain that way until the day he leaves....that's my opinion.

[tinanator]

39. Brian Lamb is a filthy pos

but if fair and balanced means something to you, theres plenty of em shoveling it out there. Aint nothin balanced about their agenda and they are very heavily Mooned.

[ProfessorGAC]

44. I Suppose You Can Prove That Contention

Since the Times has nothing to do with anything regarding CSPAN, has no financial interest, no ex-Times people work there, etc. What is this connection you describe? What do you know that nobody else knows?
The Professor

[tinanator]

48. ever watch the show Washington Journal or roundtable?

come on, you would think the Washington Times was the official C-SPAN journal. In fact I recently found an old VHS tape where I called in and NAILED Armstrong Williams, Brian Lamb and some sad WT guy, frank something I think. After I gave a brief history of the CIA involvement with domestic media from Scripps Howard on, the guy from WT turned out was a Scripps Howard alumnus and swore he never got any pressure to write a certain way. No doubt he needed none. The clear as day truth is C-SPAN does NOT present progressive voices in their programming except for the rare accident, usually at 3 AM or on C-SPAN 3. But if the Free Republic is cleaning their toilets, the C-SPAN cameras will be there from gavel to gavel.
Now, what do you know?

[tinanator]

49. ho ho whores have Zell Miller and the Swift Boat vets on tonight

think theyll schedule something alternative for balance?

[Ms. Clio]

20. Especially since "Cybercast News Service" is the equivalent of Talon

What a joke.

[Ian David]

22. CyberCast News is more like the equivalent of Stormfront Records

[Ms. Clio]

26. What is Stormfront Records? n/t

[sadiesworld]

23. Looks like a pretty lopsided list to me.

And some of the lib sites they do have are pretty worthless. Oh well, no real shocker.

[chaumont58]

27. Any list that does not include Atrios on the left is not really serious

I am kind of surprised Brian Lamb had anyone at all from the left.
He is one wingnut troll.

[NMDemDist2]

28. done, here's what I sent..

You list the right wing hate site Free Republic, but don’t list their greatest nemesis “DU” www.democraticunderground.com ??? Maybe your research team needs a little more time on the search engines.

Just a thought…..

[primavera]

29. OMG, they've got American Patrol up there

American Patrol makes Free Republic look like a bunch of lefty peaceniks. American Patrol are the hardcore racist, white supremacist, aryan nation types who haven't even been willing to give up their sheets and hoods. Very, very scary people.

[mzmolly]

31. Wow

:wow:

[tommcintyre]

30. Done - what other progressive groups are missing?, besides...

DU
atrios
alternet

We can list them and send them in AFTER DU gets listed?

[geniph]

32. Ignorant scum. Freak republic isn't a blog.

and neither is DU. Plus I can't believe DailyKos isn't on that list.

[tommcintyre]

36. Kos IS on the list n/t

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[linazelle]

34. I noted that CNN credited Wonkette with breaking the Gannon story

but we all no where Wonkette got her story from. It seems pretty clear that they don't want to acknowledge DU--only want to discredit it.

[mzmolly]

35. Figures.

:eyes:

[tommcintyre]

37. KICK! ARE WE GONNA LET 'EM GET AWAY WITH THIS!

It's still not changed. Let them know how you feel about this.

[e-mail]

[Poppyseedman]

42. one of the reasons

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=379&h=216&r=6m&y=r&u=dailykos.com/&u=http://www.democraticunderground.com/

[mzmolly]

43. I don't get how this justify's their lack of mention?

:shrug:

[tommcintyre]

46. But others on the list are much lower

Check out the MYDD/DU comparison for example:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=379&h=216&r=6m&y=r&u=www.mydd.com/&u=http://www.democraticunderground.com/

[Stop_the_War]

45. Does FreakRepublic even qualify as a blog?

[tommcintyre]

47. If they do, so does DU... Anybody get a response yet? n/t

[Imalittleteapot]

50. No response - and C-span has not added DU to

the list.