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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:22 PM
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MAJOR new ACLU document release tonight...
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 08:34 PM by rawstory
Teaser up now at http://rawstory.com -- More details coming in an hour or so -- can't really say much but you can imagine what kind of documents the ACLU tends to acquire from the Bush administration under duress...

U.S. Army documents show soldiers covered up abuse even after Abu Ghraib...Detainee coerced into dropping charges of abuse before release....Soldiers posed in mock executions of detainees.... More abuse revealed in Iraq, Afghanistan....

ACLU to release new documents acquired from Bush administration tonight: Developing...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:27 PM
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1. I know Michael Savage made a "call to arms" for his listeners
to "take out" the ACLU last night. Maybe it has something to do with these new docs? We'll see.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:29 PM
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2. no one can take us out
we have friends everywhere bwa ha ha ha haaaa!

the ACLU's comin ta getcha!

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:52 PM
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11. Thank God for the ACLU
I can't wait to see what this is.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:51 PM
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8. Call Rush Limbaugh
Let the alpha rightwing shithead handle Savage.

31 May 2004 - In an interview with Time magazine, Rush Limbaugh declares himself a longtime fan of the ACLU after they filed an amicus brief on his behalf in his prescription drug case: "In a situation like this, I think it's safe to say I welcome its support, and I don't find it hypocritical at all, because I am not anti-ACLU. If the ACLU wants to go after, say, nativity scenes or this sort of thing, I may take issue, but there are other areas where I've supported things it has done."

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/pundits/rush-limbaugh/
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:04 PM
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17. Hey Wiener - I AM THE ACLU!! - BRING IT
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:19 PM
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18. "take out" the ACLU?
isn't that a terrorist threat? Hey Michael! Luv ya! Your going to "wow" them at Nuremburg. Can hardly wait! BTW, You a whore too?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:31 PM
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22.  self deleted
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 09:33 PM by Auntie Bush
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:34 PM
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23. I saw it on FR as I was laughing at their Hannity thread
"Michael Savage just made a call to arms! TAKE DOWN THE ACLU"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344932/posts
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 10:12 PM
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25. American Civil Liberties Union
Which one of those words does the Weiner man have a problem with? Why do these people hate America so much?
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:34 PM
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3. It makes
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 08:35 PM by Scooter24
me proud to be a card-carrying member :)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:36 PM
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4. The Raw Story headline now reads...
ACLU to release new documents acquired from Bush administration tonight:

Developing...

U.S. Army documents show soldiers covered up abuse even after Abu Ghraib...

Detainee coerced into dropping charges of abuse before release....

Soldiers posed in mock executions of detainees....

More abuse revealed in Iraq, Afghanistan....



But no story yet.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:39 PM
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5. Gee.. That's just lovely
But not surprising. I wonder if Gonzalez is mentioned again?
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KlumHeidi652 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:43 PM
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6. None of that is new,
there's got to be alot more!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:47 PM
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7. I'm afraid to imagine. This admin really lowered us into the gutter.
Or just exposed us as already being there.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:56 PM
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14. The point isnt that it is new. The point is the ACLU having documentation
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drummer55 Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:54 PM
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13. and mcain voted for him. unreal.
btw if your intersted in senator "they have dirt on me" mccain own words on what he expierenced for 5 years as a torture victim at guantanoma...er vietnam here ya go.

http://www.graftongop.org/mccain051473.html

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:52 PM
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9. How did ACLU get Bush Admin to release this...They don't release anything
but claim it's all "Classified." :shrug: I can't believe they really got stuff through a FOIA request. It must have come "over the transom."
:shrug: The most secretive P-Residency in history isn't going to release anything with a whiff of news that would call them into question.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:52 PM
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10. Maybe it slipped thru the cracks between Ashcroft and Gonzales?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:54 PM
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12. They must've had something
on him and his administration? :shrug:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:57 PM
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15. The ACLU has alot of legal clout and resources.
Edited on Thu Feb-17-05 08:57 PM by K-W
And great lawyers.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:02 PM
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16. It's up..............
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=95

U.S. Soldiers Posed in Photos of Mock Executions of Detainees; More Cases of Abuse Revealed in Newly Released Documents

EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE
February 18, 2005, 12:01 AM

NEW YORK–The American Civil Liberties Union today released files obtained from the Army revealing previously undisclosed allegations of abuse by U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Among the documents are reports that a detainee who was beaten and seriously injured was forced to drop his claims in order to be released from custody.

“The torture of detainees is too widespread and systemic to be dismissed as the rogue actions of a few misguided individuals,” said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. “The American public deserves to know which high-level government officials are ultimately responsible for the torture conducted in our name.”

The release of these documents follows a federal court order that directed the Defense Department and other government agencies to comply with a year-old request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) filed by the ACLU, the Center for Constitutional Rights, Physicians for Human Rights, Veterans for Common Sense and Veterans for Peace. The New York Civil Liberties Union is co-counsel in the case.

In one file released today, an Iraqi detainee claimed that Americans in civilian clothing beat him in the head and stomach, dislocated his arms, “stepped on nose until it ,” stuck an unloaded pistol in his mouth and fired the trigger, choked him with a rope and beat his leg with a baseball bat. Medical reports corroborated the detainee’s account, stating that the detainee had a broken nose, fractured leg, and scars on his stomach. In addition, soldiers confirmed that Task Force 20 interrogators wearing civilian clothing had interrogated the detainee. However, after initially reporting the abuse, the detainee said that he was forced by an American soldier to sign a statement denouncing the claims or else be kept in detention indefinitely. He agreed.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:23 PM
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19. Most of the Amerikan public doesn't care about
this issue. It will pop down the memory hole in a few minutes. Yeah, it suck and the ACLU should keep forcing the Govt. to release documents but it won't change anything politicaly.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:29 PM
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21. This should trump Propagannon for a few days
but both stories have legs that will run for days/weeks.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:26 PM
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20. Keeping this kicked
Will someone speak up in Congress now? Loudly?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:49 PM
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24. Nominated for Homepage!
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:00 AM
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26. kick
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 05:36 AM
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27. kick
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:37 AM
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28. Released on Friday night?
Isn't that when this admin. releases stuff that they know is damaging to them but will go nowhere because nobody is paying attention? Great. Release it and let it die over the weekend.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:50 PM
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29. One more kick just for you :)
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