Back again. For the 4th night in a row the heavy helicopters are here.

[DemoTex]

I am way out in the wilds of western Transylvania County in the Blue Ridge Mountains of NC. This daisy-chain of big helicopters (I presume military helicopters) has been flying a long race-track pattern in my area every night this week. WTF?

[yellowdogintexas]

1. maneuvers from some military base no doubt

what is the closest big base to you?

[DemoTex]

5. None close.

Ft. Bragg in Fayette-nam way to the east. I think mountain exercises are underway. Now where are mountains? Syria, Iran, N. Korea? All of the above?

[yellowdogintexas]

19. Iran, Iraq, Syria, Iran, N Korea

yep, all of the above.

Serious mountains in Iran, read Whirlwind by James Clavell for a taste of Iranian geography

[AZCat]

27. Doesn't Venezuela have mountains?

Not that I'm a betting man, but we already tried once...

[yellowdogintexas]

32. Yes, and Columbia, Peru and Bolivia

for what it's worth

[Jamastiene]

43. Actually,

you can call me a conspiracy theorist, but the largest concentration of hate groups are in the western part of NC.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=325
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=164

In that one area where NC, SC, Tennesee, Georgia, and Alabama sort of come close to intersecting there are numerous hate groups. When Eric Rudolph was on the run in that area, there were reports of the US setting up Special Forces operations and even one report of the UN sending in tons of vehincles and personnel to set up camp.

Considering you live in that area, would you say that there has been more 'copter activity since Bush or less compared to the Clinton years? It would actually make sense if the answer is yes. Considering the fact that many of those hate groups are more closely aligned with a right wing president, there is a high possibility that he has ties in that area and may be training more "troops" for some future planned event, like war or terrorism or the development of biological weapons to finish attempting to wipe out the Democratic Party.

Ok, I'm trying hard to find some bombshell breaking news sort of connection. I JUST KNOW it is THERE. I'll admit that, but has anyone been arrested yet in the anthrax attacks on the Democrats in Congress yet? Do they seem concerned about pursuing that arrest? No.

Plus it is a known fact that much of the training for our military goes on in NC. We have the terrain for it here. We have beaches, mountains, and the desertlike sandhills and foothills areas. That much is fact...

That's it. Fuckhead is planning to attack another country. I hope he doesn't get the names of the countries confused and attack Australia or some other country I'd like to visit one day...That's all too possible with him. :scared:

[ultraist]

44. They are setting something up or doing LOTS of extra training

[sarcasmo]

2. Getting ready for the Syrian and Iranian Invasions.

[ailsagirl]

3. WTF indeed-- that would make me very uneasy

[smurfygirl]

4. Is it only at night?

We have been getting the same thing here. Except last night we didn't here them. I'm in Southern Indiana across from Louisville, KY.

I'm assuming they were going to Fort Knox.

[DemoTex]

7. Only at night ...

Usually after about 9 pm EST.

[Cleita]

6. Me too. They are really noisy too and sound like they are

hovering directly over my house. I'm on the central California coast though near Vandenburg AFB. I wonder whazzup? Could they be practicing to invade another country?

On edit after reading the other posts. It is mountainous and hilly around here.

[Auntie Bush]

10. If the people on the Internet(s) report military actions and the

AG/Gov. decides we're disclosing secret operations/aiding the enemy...can they shut us down or censor the Internet? May sound like a silly question but I bet they are just looking for a reason to kill the Internet because this is where we find the truth, collect huge political donations etc.

[Cleita]

15. Well, I don't think they can stop people from talking about

air traffic. If they don't want anyone talking then they should fly elsewhere where it isn't populated. The major part of the state of Nevada would do nicely for that.

[ultraist]

34. Isn't it sad we are so afraid of our own government?

I posted tonight to someone, 'be careful' about a post regarding overthrowing the gov, because we are living under a fucking fascist regime!

But as far as being shut down, those soldiers don't even know where they will be going so no, I don't see how there is anyway they can hold us hold us liable/responsible for any crime or infraction for reporting what we see in the public domain.

Now, if the training activities occured on a military base, that may well be a different situation.

[bpilgrim]

36. they can't shut down the internets

all by themselves, though they could restrict it... but i doubt they'd do that... it an SS wetdream to monitor peoples thoughts without all the fuss and expense :evilgrin:


http://images.globalfreepress.com

peace

[fooj]

47. Wow...the other day there were 5 of them...

I live on the Coast of California a little further north...Santa Cruz Co.-these military copters were flying in some sort of flight formation and they made my house rattle for a few minutes! Thought they might be on their way to the Monterey Institute or something...and then yesterday I heard them again! (didn't see them the second time)

[ultraist]

8. People are noticing increased activity in 3 states?!!

Sounds like they are doing a lot of intensive training. I have heard and seen several of those go by. I'm in the Raleigh area, between Ft.Brag and the mountains.

They are geting the new recruits ready for the next invasion. *sigh*

Either that or there is some security alert and they are monitoring the airspace. When Bush came to Raleigh no all private planes were grounded only commerical flights were allowed to fly.

[DemoTex]

12. They "monitor the airspace" with fighter CAPS ... not helicopters.

Combat Air Patrols. These helicopters are big, maybe USAF CH-53s. Big rotor noise, but not the signature sound of a tandem rotor like a Chinook.

[Elidor]

25. PAVE-LOWs perhaps? n/t

[ultraist]

35. I see, I've seen a lot of those over Raleigh lately

We also live near the airport so they may stop there to refuel. It always kind of freaks me out, when I see a military vehicle. Right before Afghanistan, there were convoys of military vehicles on the road. My kids were really intrigued by it.

[fooj]

48. Does a chinook have two propellors? One/front-back?

If so, that's what I saw (5 in formation) flying directly over my home about 3 blocks from the beach in Santa Cruz Co., CA.

[Oreo]

50. That's right

[fooj]

55. That's it! That's what I saw! Thanks for the pic!

[KoKo]

14. when Chimp was here last week after he left I was on my porch

with my cats..and heard this dreadful noise...the ground seemed to shake, and after awhile flying low over my house was a huge black plane...solid black, it was so low it was causing my house to shake and yet I couldn't see a number on the tail or any identification. Not even a window. It was dull black not shiny. It was traveling slow, and after that a black helicopter came by like it was an "escort" but then veered off in another direction.

I knew it wasn't Air Force One, but it was so close to Chimps visit it was strange. I assumed it was a military transport used to carry the SUV's and Secret Service he travels with? He has a whole army wherever he goes so they must need another plane but he was flying on to St. Louis, MO, and that black plane was flying West to the NC Mountains. :shrug:

I've never seen a plane like that...scary. Then the next night several helicopters came over our house flying low about 10:00 p.m. at night. We don't live on an active flight plan...here in Raleigh but I've seen more black helicopters recently (since 9/11 and they all are flying West, to your direction in the Mountains).

Maybe you have one of those Mercenary Training facilities near you and it's being kept secret. I know...it's very crazy what goes on with these people...and we never know what they are up to.

[CC]

17. more here

Well try 4 states though no mountains this part of MD. They are Huey's flying here. I took pictures and ask a retired military friend. I was told most likely practice and mandatory flight time. Next question is there more jet “practice” flights where they are stationed?

[Lisabtrucking]

23. Yes, I hear them too. I hear the roars of the jets, all day long, it's

kinda ere. a steady roar, sounds like the planet is spinning and the wind is whipping bye. I'm close to a well known base in Florida.

[AmBlue]

40. Hey Lisab

I'm just across the pond from you in Pinellas. Howdy Neighbor!

[newyawker99]

51. Hi AmBlue!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Lisabtrucking]

52. Hi Neighbor, glad too see ya here. great place to vent and

get caught up on things. Welcome

[gordianot]

9. Maybe they know you post on DU.

We have a farm not far from an Army base in the Midwest. Two weeks ago we were on the farm. I noticed two flights of multiple helicopter activity. I have no doubt they were Army helicopters flying in the rain.

We have seen multiple flights in the summer, never in the winter. That is strange for this time of the year, and where we are it has to be risky flying.

[wtmusic]

11. Stop shining the damn laser at them, DT n/t

[DELUSIONAL]

13. This used to happen all the time in WA state

They were practicing flying just at the tree tops -- fast maneuvering. After loosing several 'copter they were ordered to stop. These were the small combat 'copters.

Hawaii is another place the 'copters practice near ground level flying. The marines would practice flying the perimeter when the Prez (Clinton way back then) was due for a visit.

Could be that they are practicing for a Prez visit -- the chimpster did say he was going to be traveling to sell his plan to loot SS. Could be these are the places he will visit and the military will have to use what ever they have to provide protection.

The 'copter photo in your post #12 is identical to the one that was practicing flying the perimeter for Clinton's stay at the Marine base on the Windward side of Oahu. I was snorkeling in the Bay and felt a vibration, pulled my head out of the water and saw one of the 'copters practicing using me as a "target". I was in a semi restricted area -- but with the permission of the resident Marine biologists.

In fact the 'copter was close enough (and hovering) for me to clearly see the pilot and co-pilot. I was not impressed.

I expect that the military is now placed on higher alert with the current idiot in residence at the white house. If the marines practiced for a Prez visit 10 years ago -- they are probably doing the same thing.

I'm going to save that photo -- because I've described the 'copter and now at last I see the same one that harassed me off a small island in Hawaii.

[BrotherBuzz]

16. Black Helicopters?

Putting the tinfoil hats aside for a bit, we used to have a slew of black hilicopters here in Northern California for a couple of years while they built a super-secret communications facility in the mountains above the city of Napa. No roads into this rugged terran, just helicopters, and at night.

Think you may have the makings of a new snoop shack in your area?

[libnnc]

18. I grew up in Waynesville

and that area around WNC is used as a training ground for all kinds of aircraft. When I was in high school (Tuscola Sr High) our campus was literally on top of a small mountain that overlooks the highway. At marching band practice one afternoon in the school parking lot I looked down the hill towards the road and saw a C-130 fly at treetop level. It scared the shit out of us. We couldn't hear the thing until it was right on us. Happened all the time...

[Ilsa]

20. Strangely, we've had a Blackhawk or two flying around here since

Monday. I've heard them and seen them. Normally, we only get an occasional commercial helo as I live in a relatively small city.

[yellowdogintexas]

21. Fort Worth NARS (Naval Air Reserve Station) is not far from

here and we get the roving helicopters from time to time.

A pack of those things really sounds like the roof of your house is going to land in the neighbor's yard.

When the military does maneuvers, they will go wherever they need to, for the suitable terrain.

[karlrschneider]

22. I've noticed a lot of them here too lately, Mac...night and day both.

Not daisy chains but fairly regular, flying below 2500 feet. I don't know choppers very well but they're single rotor and large. No idea where they're from or going---I -think- there might be an Army base somewhere around Ft. Smith and we're right on a direct path from there to Tulsa...or I guess they could be from the Tulsa Army NG...? They sure do shake the ole homestead though...
:eyes:

[zann725]

26. How many Intelligence agencies are there? About 15? No surprise there's

so many "black" helicopters and planes now. Sounds like just the beginning of expanded surveillance.

[ocean girl]

24. Hey, we have a house in Ettowah!

We've never even heard a helicopter there.

I live in Palm Beach county, Florida, and the other night as I was driving home from work, I noticed 4 red lights in the sky that looked unusual and strange. As I approached, I saw that they were helicopters, but they were flying in some kind of formation that I've never seen before.

I'm on the ocean, so we have lots of helicopter traffic, but I've never seen that before.

Very strange.

Say hello to the mountains for me.

[Not_Giving_Up]

28. I saw on a ticker on the local news in Houston

That they were going to be doing training at Ellington AFB with live munitions. They were letting people know they shouldn't be alarmed. I've lived around that base most of my life (my grandparents live in the flight pattern that AF1 takes...I lived with them for years, we always knew it was that big mother flying over!) I've never heard them doing live munitions training there before.

[G_j]

29. don't be alarmed?

it's only live amo.. jeez :shrug:

[Not_Giving_Up]

31. Well, they wanted the people nearby to know it was training

Not an attack. This is Texas...people ARE armed!

[mordarlar]

30. A cargo copter just flew over my house a few days ago....

I have NEVER seen one of these. I posted on it here and was told it is a "chinook?"

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[ultraist]

37. I think it's really creepy so many people are seeing more military copters

SOMETHING is up. Either a surge in training or survelliance (another war or big brother). I've lived in this area for 11 years and have never seen this much activity.

[Tsiyu]

38. They're testing some new lockheed planes around here

and also doing many maneuvers in the "gulfs" which no doubt highly simulate the terrain in many of the above-named locales.

The strangest sight up here came this morning and afternoon, when we passed a local B&B. The parking lot was symmetrically - anal retentively - parked with a dozen pure white unmarked Impalas and a few SUV's.

Folks on the mountain are speckalatin'....

[ultraist]

39. What state are you in?

That sounds like setting up emergency response supplies. They are gov use vehicles for sure, no dealer would purchase that many white vehicles nor do they park them that way off the lot.

What do you think they are for?

[Tsiyu]

41. I'm in Tennessee- Cumberland Plateau

I think they may be doing surveys for coal/gas pipelines/ development of some sort. They are starting to rape this pristine place again. Like they did in the past.

The kids all had varying theories.

[Cleita]

42. Hookay, things get wierder.

Sonic booms heard north of here (California Central Coast) can't be verified. The Fire Chief of the town of Cambria (near Hearst Castle) called local military and wasn't able to get answers. The news station was able to get someone at Vandenburg AFB to say the sonic booms were caused by jets from a local National Guard unit, however, the National Guard denies it. So WTF is going on?

[ultraist]

45. Keep us posted!

I wonder if the recent news on potential attacks is actually true?

[Kenergy]

46. Were they around Rosman research station? n/t

[Tesla]

49. I'm in Dayton Ohio

I see some weird stuff in the sky ALL THE TIME!!!!

Just the other day I had 2 fighters just hovering over the road . Freaky lookin things, black, all bent up.

Those helicopters are always around here.

Then there is Federal Express at 5:30 every morning.

We won't even go there....

[Lisabtrucking]

53. That reminded me of a huge blue flash in the sky, coming

home from dropping my son off at work. I was with my brother and he saw it also. I thought it was an explosion, the whole sky lite up. I thought it might of been an accident at the sulfur plant near by, but nothing was said in the paper or on the news. The only other conclusion is the air force base I am close to. Weird very weird.

[amazona]

54. aren't they looking for drugs in that area?

Although when I was getting the helicopter treatment, they were not heavy duty.

How low are they getting?

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72

[HeeBGBz]

56. We had military helicopters flying yesterday

Haven't seen any in a while. Saw two separate runs yesterday.