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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:30 AM
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Drudge and Sullivan where are your words re: Gannon??
Isnt it a tad strange that Andy and Matt are silent about Jeffy?
I hate to notice the people in the news media who are making excuses for Gannon, or not talking about this issue but.....
Wolfie, Pat Buchanan, tried to squash the talk
Drudge, Sullivan have not said a word.

As (great american) Stephanie Miller would say... Do you think there is a connection??
tib
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madhat Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:33 AM
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1. DRUDGE IS NOW IRRELEVANT
I've been e-mailing him all week.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:34 AM
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2. I've been submitting this "scoop" to drudge:
Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon Gannon
etc.

and

Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert Guckert etc.

I guess those are too subtle for him.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:34 AM
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3. I'm gonna take a wild guess here.
I'm betting that Matt was the one who introduced Jeff to Karl or Ari or whoever.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:36 AM
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4. Maybe Drudge thinks if he's nice to Gannon/Guckert/Man-whore...
...he (Drudge) will "get some?" :shrug:
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:37 AM
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5. I'm not sure what your point is?
What is the significance that all three are gay? This seems to be an insignificant part of the story. What perspective would they add?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:39 AM
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6. I've been using Focus on the Families webmailer to contact
every ReThug in Congress I can, "Why did Bush let us down, why does he have gay hookers in press conferences? I didn't know when he said no gay marraige he meant it was still ok to have gay sex"

Hell, if them evengelicals aren't going to stand up and demand their "man date" - least I can do is help them out.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:43 AM
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7. Suggestion: Let's engage Dr. James Dobson in Gannon Gay Porn Buzz
I had a similar idea. Dobson is very good at agitating his army of zombie followers to make a stink and cause trouble, and right now anti-gayness is his leading issue!

Suggestion: Let's engage Dr. James Dobson in Gannon Gay Porn Buzz

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1605586&mesg_id=1605586
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:45 AM
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8. Drudge was merely the prototype for Gannon
They didn't want to try to float Drudge in the press pool as the first experiment. But he is certainly a creation of the NeoCons and is kept funded and supplied by them. Gannon was just the next (or perhaps just another in a long chain of models) model of the same idea.

Look the exercise is one of creating the message in the media. The right doesn't outright control the media. They can still turn on them if there is money to be made. But the right has specialized at finding ways to inject their message into the media in ways they cannot resist.

If you control the message you control the media. Control the media and you control the perceptions of the people. Do that and you have won.

Its just a matter of creating an endless barrage of message sources. Heritage Institute and other such think tanks are merely routing stations for the right to inject their talking points into the system. By presenting an endless array of talking heads to the media all repeating the same message they have forced them down the NeoCon path.

Drudge and Gannon represent further coopting of the system. By creating voices in the wilderness that do not have to wait to be called on as a spokesperson for some point of view they create the message before the media even begins to notice that there may be some issue. Its like seeding a crowd with a bunch of shills. They each start talking with each other about some point they wish to push. People overhear it and begin talking about it themself. And in the media there is always a paranoia that something may be going on that they don't yet know about. So anything new they glom onto.

This has been going on so long now that the media has lost its ability to honestly investigate the news. And they know it. They are entirely dependent on the NeoCon talking heads and their direction that they can't say no to this new type of infusion. Its like mana to them now. They don't have to be responsible for creating news. They just have to let the NeoCon source points create the hubbub in the trenches and then they get to miracuously discover it.

But now, after they have become addicts, they have been caught. Or rather one of their drug dealers has been discovered. Suddenly everyone is shocked and dismayed. But not at the right. Its those that are seeking to cut off their source that earns the brunt of the attack. So Bloggers are the new bad boys.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:47 AM
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9. He can't bash a fellow gay
And he certainly can't bash someone he supported being the WH press whore.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 11:49 AM
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10. Why can't a gay criticize another gay?
I'm confused by that statement.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:05 PM
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13. I meant he couldn't point out the gay aspect of the Guckert/Gannon story
lest he be pointed out for the hypocrite he is.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:05 PM
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11. Both Drudge and Andy Sullivan have bashed fellow gays
in fact one could argue they have made careers of it. Do you have a reason for suggesting otherwise?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:09 PM
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12. Its not a matter of the shared homosexual inuendo
Its that they are both the same breed of shills for the right. Set up as independent news sources claiming to be nonpartisan. But in reality they are just source points for the NeoCons to create the talking points they want to introduce into mainstream media. Gannon was just a more advanced and covert model.
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