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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:52 AM
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The fact that gagman is still alive is already an amazing story.
Maybe Howie Kurtz is just trying to keep the guy alive.

As I've posted elsewhere, I think gagman (aka Gannon, Guckert, ??) pulled the 26 Jan 2005 $hrubber press conference stunt (and the eager communication with DU to become the #1 punk-neoCON shmuck or whatever that contest is called) because he may not have been ready to be a participant in one of those 'suicides.'

I think gagman's background (when we learn what it is, along with some hard facts about who he really is) may well be sufficiently experienced in the ways and means of scrubbing those who have become unwanted annoyances, that he may well have detected that it was time for him to become 'hyper public.'

And, heck, he's succeeding and maybe Howie is into the "he's not heavy, he's my brother" compassion thingie and is trying to help the dude not find himself hanging from a shower rod.

Think about it. The fact that gagman is still alive is already an amazing story, imho.

Peace.


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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:56 AM
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1. That means he's probably got the "In case I'm found dead" envelope..
already delivered to his attorney's office.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:11 AM
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2. fill me in - he was here?
was he one of them who came here to masquerade as a dem/lefty?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:21 AM
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3. He whined about being only #2 or #3 on the DU list
of conservative idiots in an email to DU. That got some discussion before more of his qualifications for #1 had become known.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:24 AM
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4. thanx
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:29 AM
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5. I think he started to go hyper public before the DU email
He made that reckless comment that he knew would piss off liberals. His other comments were not wide open like that one was. It was at that point, he blew his cover.

I wonder how long he has worked for the Rove machine. When did he set up those escorts sites? Wasn't he already working for GOPUSA?

He signed on with the Bush mafia torture regime, he is a dead man walking.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:31 AM
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20. i agree he is doing these interviews...
to stay alive!!..he knows and now so does his attorney...he said earlier in the week no more interviews editor and publisher and now he comes out and does another interview with anderson cooper...he needs to elevate his name recogignition and get out there to stay alive..
its the m.o. of anyone smart who outs any info on the * crime family...the smart ones stay in front of the camera as much as they can!!

fly
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:34 AM
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6. Its too late for them to kill him- he is too well known.
...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:30 AM
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12. It's never too late.
Craig Spence, who ran the White House call-boy ring under the first Bush, went hyper-public too. He was talking to the press, and about to give an interview to Penthouse about the "shocking homosexual lives" at the top in Washington, when he was suicided.

It's never too late, because there is always a critical mass who are incurious and credulous enough to accept the official story.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:30 AM
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13. dupe n/t
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 07:30 AM by Minstrel Boy
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xpat Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:04 PM
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28. They just killed Hariri in Lebanon, so
what's to keep a toyboy from having an accident?
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smiley Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:38 AM
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7. This story is going overboard!
The amount of attention this story is attracting at DU is a bit distracting from real issues... such as the privatization of social security.

Could it be that this is the purpose of the Gannon/Guckert soap opera. Anybody who follows thes forums already knows the media has been bought and that our government administrators are hypocrits.... so why are we dwelling on this guy?! He's been outed and I think we should move on.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:18 AM
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8. One of the biggest issues today is how the WH controls the media.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 08:34 AM
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15. Yeah, we know that SS is being plundered by the Bush admin
You think our brains only have room for one story?

GIMME MORE GUCKERT!! I wanna know WHO he was porking in the White House!!! Maybe Dubya HIMSELF!!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:50 AM
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24. Agreed, I can chew gum and walk at the same time.
Focusing on how the admin puts its shills in the press room without requiring proper background checks is key to fighting their lies and propaganda, the same lies and propanda they use to sell their agendas, like their piratization of SS.

It all ties together, the links are there, finding the weak links and pulling at them until they break will be how we stop the evil BFEE.

Give me more on Jimmy-Jeff.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:59 PM
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36. You know it sweetheart! junior can fool his base but he ain't
fooling us.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 08:58 AM
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17. We can hold more than one idea in our little brains, smiley dear
But thanks for the concern.
Why is your post reminding me of good ol Ralph who, before the election was saying that: the missing explosives story is a distraction from the real issue: unemployment.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:23 AM
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19. Moveonnow; nothingtoseehere; bye, bye 'smilely'; bye, bye.....



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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:42 AM
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21. you move on!!
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 11:49 AM by flyarm
this is a huge story..it implicates the white house in the valerie plame outing and the loss of the fourth estate in our constitution!!!!!!!!!!!
if you don't like the story of investigating whats going on in the most powerful house in the world ..you move on...there are too many still answered questions about gannon...this is not rumours..this is need to know, need to act information..how did someone with no credentials get within feet of our president??? especially after 9/11

and how did two of the most wanted Russians get into a religious thing with * last week..

bury your head..but most of us won"t!

do your own research if you dare...i bet you don't want to know!!

fly
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:45 AM
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22. go follow the yellow brick road of how many deaths surround
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 11:45 AM by flyarm
this * cabal of murderers..and tell us this isnt a big story!!anyone who attepts to out these murderers ends up suicided , in a weird car wreck...or plane crash...or floating face down in water...wake up..this is a giant story..and its roots go back to daddy *!!

fly
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:22 PM
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32. I disagree- media-propaganda is issue #1.
We cant win on any "real" issue until we do somthing about the daily GOp/media propaganda.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:50 PM
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34. Sorry, it's only just beginnig......

nice try though.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:21 AM
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9. Maybe Howie is trying to keep his OWN head above water.
As disjointed as this article is, http://onlinejournal.com/Media/021805Madsen/021805madsen.html
it does document the real people who didn't survive the last BushCo sex scandal.

It seems that even a former cia director didn't escape.

Think about it. That's the scale of this thing.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:56 AM
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25. you bet its the scale of things...
and then of course there is the lady who filed a suit in texas who suicided herself a year ago sept for suing bush for rape he committed against her...oh and doesnt everyone who commits suicide put a gun to the very back of their head and shoot??

then you have brian quig who wrote "9/11 " high treason " who was hit by a hit and run car ..by his front door step!
doesnt everyone get hit by a car by their front door step??

and then last march we have the guy who was exposing the voting machines..and he was in a weird car wreck in ohio...
then we have 4 soldiers who were involved with the jessica lynch rescue who are dead..one suicide , one at a home barbeque shot over the fence with all his family and buddies there..and one kille din afganistan the first day he was there..and one in virginia who ran off the road 2 days after getting home while driving to his fiancee's home...

sureeeeee it was all an accident!
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:41 AM
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10. Please call him Gannon or Guckert
These threads are read by the republicans
and the media sometimes.

We need to put out a clean discussion in my opinion.
Don't give them any other reasons to discredit us.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:28 AM
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11. Do I have your plea right?
This country, formerly known as the USA, has been literally taken over by a Neo-Fascist-Sex-Cult (see Gannon/Bush pedophile scandal)and you're nammering about "clean" discussions?

Surely you jest. Now go lay down (with or without Gannon). Thank you.
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:50 PM
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35. what?
Take it easy. I was going to write a response but
its obvious you might not understand.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:13 AM
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18. I prefer gagman or YUKert; thank you very much (nt)
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 11:14 AM by understandinglife



"DO YOU ENJOY BEING A CITIZEN OF THE ROGUE SUPER_POWER?"
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:31 AM
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14. If he were to 'commit suicide'
Everybody would know. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe that he just decided that he would commit suicide and the WH had nothing to do with it.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:00 PM
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26. what part of this do you not understand??
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 12:01 PM by flyarm
did you hear about the suicide of the woman who filed suit against bush for rape??

did you???

did you hear about the 4 soldiers that died who were part of the jessica lynch phony assed rescue?? did you>??

how about osamas brother?? did you hear about that?? car wreck when * stole his money in arbusto or harkin oil deal..it was his money * used and stole!
did you hear about brian quig??

how about the accountant who was about to expose the voting machines in march..did you hear about him??

fly
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:02 PM
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27. Whoa! I must've said something wrong
Yes, I know about these things and it all sounds very suspicious to say the least.

If something bad were to happen to Gannon, there would be people who believe the 'official story'. I wouldn't be one of them.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:58 PM
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29. opps wasn't answering you..it posted in wrong place!! n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:59 PM
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30. was replying to #7 it posted wrong place!! n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 08:52 AM
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16. From "Crossfire"
by Jim Marrs (page 503): "Ferrie's nude body had been discovered lying on a living-room sofa surrounded by prescription medicine bottles, several completely empty. One typed suicide note was found on a nearby table while a second was found on an upright piano. Three days later the New Orleans coroner ruled that Ferrie had died from 'natural causes,' specifically a ruprured blood vessel in the brain."

Oh, my error. I mistake Gannon for Ferrie sometimes.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:46 AM
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23. He has a gun. Might be hard to "suicide".
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:02 PM
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31. Ah, now that's an interesting factoid. Once we know who the dude....
....is, we'll probably learn that he knows how to use that gun (and a variety of other weapons) really well.

So, what's your top choice for prior employment: Secret Service, CIA, "special ops," ???

We've got ~ 47 years of YUCkert history ahead of us and we've only scratched the surface of what he's been doing since Nov 2002.

Peace.


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