Skull and Bones information.....

[Tammuz]

Forget that Alexandra Robbins, she was a member of a yale secret society herself (scroll and key),she admits it.

http://www.yalereviewofbooks.com/archive/fall02/review08.shtml.htm
Quote:One of the reasons Robbins may have been able to gain such extensive access to the tomb and to interviews with Bones members is that she herself was a member of Scroll and Key. Her bias is evident throughout the book, as Robbins never really addresses the elitism inherent in secret societies. In fact, the question of why a non-society reader might be interested in the room numbers on the second floor of the Skull and Bones tomb never seems to enter into her mind. Perhaps because of her own connections to the secret society community, Robbins comes to her reporting with the bias that societies are both good and of interest, and so fails to address explicitly either of these debatable assumptions.


Its like asking gangster to write a book critising the mafia. Dont be too surprised if the gangster says you have to be insane to believe in the mafia's existance and writes a whitewash book.

Skull and bones is the tip of the iceberg:
http://www.yale.edu/socdept/slc/public/nh/nh026.html
There are 10-12 secret societies at yale, they are called things like scroll and key,wolfs head,book and snake,Berzelius.

http://www.political-sciences.com/Americas_Secret_Establishment_0937765023.html

Antony Sutton quite rightfully points out that Skull and Bones members pledge allegiance with a blood oath FOR LIFE so its not just a silly college frat. They even have their own Island.

Ron Rosenbaums rambling incomprehensible articles about Skull and Bones make little sense and yes, he is a Yale graduate. -Was he a member of any of the many secret societies there?

The Bush Family:
Many generations of Bush's were members and the grandfather funded Hitler - this is very relavent.

Skull and Bones has very direct ties to Germany.
QUOTEs-(from the book review):
The idea for a secret society, as well as the name Skull and Bones, likely came from Germany, where Russell had studied during his Yale career.

Skull and Bones may in fact have formed as a chapter of a German mother organization. Though it no longer claims any connection to other organizations, the tomb is still covered in German artifacts. German phrases are inscribed in the walls, and a print of an open tomb filled with skulls, books, and other objects is labeled “From the German chapter.” Even one of the society's traditional songs is sung to the tune of the German national anthem, “Deutschland über Alles.”


letter 1

letter2

Yes, above are 2 letters written by our first President saying that the Illuminati infiltrate freemasonic lodges and they have reached the shores of the USA. He even points out their involvement in the French Revolution.(jacobins).

The Illuminati came out of Germany. To be more precise they are a secret society based out of a University.(ingolstadt University)
Does that remind you of SKull and Bones? Russell got his ideas from Studying in Germany and he makes a society that closely resembles the 'nefarious' (as George Washington described them) Illuminati.

Hitler as everyone should know was heavily involved in the occult, as was George Bush's grandfather at the time. (skull and bones).

2 people who are involved in occult secret societies that are closely tied together exchanging money.What a coincedence.

QUOTE from book review above:Much of the decor is devoted, unsurprisingly, to the theme of death

CIA = death
Hitler = death
Bush = death



THE CIA:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=1706
QUOTE:Yale historians often comment that the CIA contained so many Yale alumni and Bones members that the "Whiffenpoofs Song" became the unofficial song of the Office of Strategic Services.

-If you know anything about the history of the CIA you'll know they are responsible for millions of deaths in the third world because of their nasty habit of installing dictators.

Also there are more Nazi ties - after WW2 we imported 1000's of Nazis and many of them ended up working for the CIA.

[FlashHarry]

1. Argh! This is maddening!

Believe what you want to believe. I guess it's easier to explain one's downtrodden existence with 'the Illuminati' lurking in the shadows.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

14. Funny, the Illuminati were a real organization

Started in 1775 by Adam Weishupt, I believe. The historical existence of the Illuminati is not in dispute. Neither is the historical existence of Russell Trust.

So yes, believe what you want to believe. Everyone has a right to be ignorant of history.

[emad]

19. Bavarian Illuminati believe that the Merovignian line

ie. direct DNA descendents of Jesus Christ will re -incarnate at the time of the so called Millenium and produce a 'saviour king' who will rule the world. Various associated cults like the Priory of Sion have infiltrated public life and tried to take a stranglehold on the politics and economies of many countries. The P2 Lodge of Banco Ambrosiano fame is the terrorist branch of the Catholic Church's Nazi division, dedicated to financial corruption and mass murder as a means of political control. Al Qaeda is its Muslim branch.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. Anthony Sutton is a right wing nut

If they are so powerful, how come they have only managed to get three to the white house out of 43 presidents?

Geez, the southern baptists have done better than that.

[Tammuz]

3. There are 10 other secret societies at yale!

We dont have the membership lists for the other 10 so we dont know how many Presidents are members of secret societies - maybe all of them are.

What evidence is there that Antony Sutton is a right wing nut?

[FlashHarry]

4. Here's some more Bush/Illuminati stuff for ya!

<snip>
Presently, the Bush twins are 19 years old; and in the Illuminati hierarchical structure they are being trained/programmed to become "Mothers of Darkness". A "Sealing Ritual" is required for females in the satanic bloodlines at age 19.
</snip>

for more total f*cking insanity, click here.

[Stuckinthebush]

9. That's it!

The "Sealing Ceremony" must have been responsible for sealing Bush's brain shut from all intelligent information!

That is why he is so damn stupid!

[FlashHarry]

15. LOL!!!

[Cocoa]

5. isn't it a bit grandiose to call this "information"?

i guess it's information in the same sense that "The Hobbit" is information, it just seems like a strange way to describe it.

[disgruntella]

6. roflmao

Man... I have GOT to get back to studying!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

8. It's more like "dis"-information

:tinfoilhat:

[library_max]

7. Here's your tinfoil hat.

:tinfoilhat:

What's your hurry?

[Kellanved]

10. "Deutschland über alles" isn't the anthem

It is the first stanza of the "Deutschlandlied". That part is no longer used (not only because of the "über alles" part, but because of the borders mentioned as well.) It was the Weimar Republic's anthem; the Nazis used it as well, but added the now unknown "Hortst-Wessel-Lied" to the Anthem.


The Federal-Republic's Anthem is the third stanza of the "Deutschlandlied" :
--snip
Unity, Justice and Freedom
for the German Fatherland.
Let's all strive towards this Purpose
Brotherly, with Heart and Hand.
Unity, Justice and Freedom
are the Promise of Happiness.
Flourish in this Blessing's Glory,
Flourish, German Fatherland.
--snap


The melody is by Haydn and was used for the Austrian "Kaiserlied".

[seventhson]

11. ALEXANDRA CAME A LONG WAY after visiting DU

I thought her book was too light on skull et al,

Rosenbaum I found well informed and solid as a source -- and he criticized Robbins for "trusting" skull members' (insiders) information.

Buty this interview here is
awesome:

http://www.guerrillanews.com/counter_intelligence/doc808.html



And so from your research did you find confirmation to these theories?


I was actually surprised because there was a lot more basis to these theories than I had expected. For example, members of the Skull & Bones did indeed oversee the deployment of the atomic bomb. They did choreograph the Bay of Pigs invasion. They did fund Hitler when they could. But it wasn’t the organization pulling the strings. It was the individual members. There are cliques within Skull & Bones that tend to gather together and elevate each other to power and then exert their control and influence… It’s not that Skull & Bones as an entity is specifically and directly pulling the strings. It’s that individuals within the secret society are pushing each other to positions of authority and working their influence from there.



As soon as Bush got into the White House, one of the first social gatherings he had was a reunion of his Skull & Bones members. Then almost immediately he started appointing other members of Skull & Bones into positions into the Justice Department and later the Office of Homeland Security.

[seventhson]

12. You can't resist...

ignoring history.

Bits nore from Alexandra Robbins on WHAT they did...


Question: Tell me – how is Skull & Bones any different from any typical fraternity that would seek to make its practices secret to non-members?


Robbins:
Skull & Bones isn’t your typical fraternity. Within the Tomb, for example, there is a very strong death motif and a very strong war motif… There are dozens of skulls in the Tomb both human and animal, there is supposedly a mummy, there is the gravestone of Elihu Yale that was stolen from Rexom, Wales, sometime in the 20th century probably. I was told by a Bonesman that the idea of the death motif is to remind you that life is short and that there is an unspoken pressure to achieve, and to follow in the footsteps of all of the prominent alumni before you before you die. And that’s really what Skull & Bones is about. It’s about power. Your typical fraternity – I would think there is more of an element of fun. There is no alcohol in Skull & Bones, which is also another big difference between Skull & Bones and fraternities. You won’t see a kegger in the Tomb.


Skull & Bones has always had a distinguished roster of alumni, but we really see them coming into power in the early 20th century, first with William Howard Taft – the only man ever to be President of the United States and Supreme Court Chief Justice. At least two of the men he appointed to his eleven-man cabinet were members of the Skull & Bones. Then you see the Harrimans come in the early 1900s. The Harrimans had the largest private bank in the country, filled it with Bonesmen, and when W.A. Harriman merged with Brown Brothers, it was because of the Skull & Bones partners at each bank and then by 1972, more than 1/3 of the partners at Brown Brothers Harriman were members of Skull & Bones. Moving on you see members of Skull & Bones operating as directors on the boards of banks that did stowe money for Hitler. During WW II, Henry Stimson, a prominent Bonesman who believed that men weren’t really of quality unless they went to Andover, Yale and then through Skull & Bones, hired many members of Skull & Bones to work with him in the war department and ended up assigning the deployment of the atomic bomb to these members of Skull & Bones…

[chadm]

13. lalalalala....I'm not listening

I don't wanna believe in any of this stuff...lalalalala.

It is ignorant to think that these organizations are not plotting the majority of events we call history.

[FlashHarry]

16. No. Quite the opposite.

In fact, it is ignorant to make blanket statement without any evidence.

[seventhson]

17. Your eyelids are getting heavy...you will remember nothing....

Finally Robbins on Kerry and the elite of the elite>>>

Why Kerry is UNFIT to be President and why this issue MATTERS

Guerrilla News:

So what can we foresee in the future? It seems like despite the erosion of traditionalism with people like yourself, who tend to scoff at these traditions, many others still seek the power and elitism that comes with it… So what is going to be the fate of these clubs? Because it seems like as the traditions erode, the power that the initial founders had in mind is only starting to take root.


Robbins:

Unfortunately, I don’t think that the traditions are going to continue to erode. I think the fact that Skull & Bones has another president in power is just another mode of encouragement that will lead it to continue its traditions and lead it to continue to do what it has always done. And I think the current political scene is probably evidence of that. In 2000, let’s look at the four men who were on the ballot. You had George W. Bush, a member of Skull & Bones. You had Al Gore, a graduate of Harvard. You had Dick Cheney who is distantly related to a family of Skull & Bonesmen. And you had Joseph Lieberman who was a member of another secret society at Yale. In 2004, it could very well be the first Bones vs. Bones ballot, with George W. Bush against Senator John Kerry, a 1966 graduate of Skull & Bones. It seems that we see the same cycles of people over and over again and, as much as we say this is 2002, this is America, this is a democracy, we are still seeing the candidates coming from the same tiny political pool.


Q: So how do you feel about that? Describe the implications for us.


Robbins: Frankly I don’t think members of Skull & Bones should be running the country. I don’t feel comfortable with a group that’s historically been misogynistic, has had anti-Semitic members, has been prejudiced in the past, and has been linked with Hitler and the atomic bomb. I don’t think these people should have such an influence on our country, and yet we see them in journalism, in business, running the CIA, running the Supreme Court and running the U.S. government. I think the only way to tear this society down is to penetrate its secrets and to spread awareness about it so that people know what’s going on and when they see politicians capitalizing on Skull & Bones, constituents can call them on it.




I AGREE WITH ROBBINS 100% AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T "GET" THIS STUFF NEEDS TO READ MORE HISTORY. AND I DON'T MEAN THE LIES THEY TAUGHT YOU IN YOUR IVY LEAGUE (OR COMMUNITY) COLLEGES

[davidinalameda]

18. whatever

:wtf:


I don’t feel comfortable with a group that’s historically been misogynistic, has had anti-Semitic members, has been prejudiced in the past

that can describe any group in the United States and a good part of the world.

all this crap is fodder for the tinfoilites

[seventhson]

20. and the slinging

crap slung at those who post on this subject is fodder for the fascists and freepers.

YOU can deny that corrupt rich ivy league wall street weapons manufacturers and war profiteers run the world.

But you deny it at your peril. Mine too.