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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:35 PM
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I'm a Republican because... ("load of happy horseshit" alert)
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:03 PM by stpalm
from http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=4324


I'm a Republican Because...

I BELIEVE the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person’s dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored.

I BELIEVE in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless of race, creed, sex, age or disability.

I BELIEVE free enterprise and encouraging individual initiative have brought this nation opportunity, economic growth and prosperity.

I BELIEVE government must practice fiscal responsibility and allow individuals to keep more of the money they earn.

I BELIEVE the proper role of government is to provide for the people only those critical functions that cannot be performed by individuals or private organizations and that the best government is that which governs least.

I BELIEVE the most effective, responsible and responsive government is government closest to the people.

I BELIEVE Americans must retain the principles that have made us strong while developing new and innovative ideas to meet the challenges of changing times.

I BELIEVE Americans value and should preserve our national strength and pride while working to extend peace, freedom and human rights throughout the world.

FINALLY, I believe the Republican Party is the best vehicle for translating these ideals into positive and successful principles of government.
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It's funny, I agree with 8 out of 9 of those statements (except for the last one), but the Repukes are NOWHERE Near ANY of my beliefs! They say one thing and do another! Fiscal responsibility? What the fuck are they smoking? Equal opportunity? For who, all the oppressed white males? Yes, government close to people is wonderful. WHY THE FUCK do you steal elections? Oh yeah, spreading peace would be wonderful. Then why are we STARTING WARS with countries that have nothing to do with terrorism- how about attacking the people who actually harmed us! Think of that! Oh yeah, individualist economy is great- but instead, lets fuck over anyone trying to make it in our economy and support monopolistic corporations.

Bite me, GOP!






EDIT: JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS- I am not a Repuke. I am posting this BS for everyone to ridicule in the manner I did above.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:36 PM
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1. Ummm...you might want to reference where you got this list...
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 09:37 PM by tx_dem41
or you are going to get people confused and get yourself in a heap of grief.
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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:41 PM
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4. done. I don't want anyone to be confused!

I also added more ranting. The point of this is to show how the Repubs are so far away from their "pledge" it isn't even funny, it's just sad.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:38 PM
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2. ummmm...... becuase ummmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmm
you're an idiot? :shrug:

lol :D
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:38 PM
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3. I believe
that any one that believes that republicans *actually* believe that is delusional.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:41 PM
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5. Whoever wrote that was a crackhead....
c'mon dude you really think the Repuke party is like that? Repukes are racist sexist homophobic warmongering idiots!
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:42 PM
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6. So this is the "Republican Creed".
I imagine they take it just as seriously as their "religious" values.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:55 PM
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11. There ya' go. Just visit those "values" an hour or so one day a week.
If they actually "LIVED" such values,...I do believe we would all be in an incredibly different mood today!!! :bounce:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:44 PM
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7. The last one is the GOTCHA!
It's like the old joke about he Senator who visits a mental hospital, and is taken with the art work of a patient. The patient spends some time explaining and convincing the senator that he has been committed by mistake and is quite sane. The senator promised to help. As he turns to walk away, he is struck on the head by a can of paint. He turns to the patient, who says, "you won't forget will ya'?"

It all could be made true if that last statement, is preceded by, "But..."

--IMM
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:56 PM
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27. Lol, I like that joke.
Possibly the most subtle joke I've ever heard.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:45 PM
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8. I Hear Ya!!
"Government closest to the people is best" UNLESS, of course, that government would give same-sex couples the right to marry...or transgender people like myself the right to not face unfair discrimination in the workplace!!

FUCK YOU, GOP!!!
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:47 PM
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9. taking point one apart.. "individual" "dignity, freedom"
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 09:57 PM by oscar111
a society is not strong if individualism is taken to mean

compete

as in all against all. Indvidualism is oft used to get the middle class to disunite and fight inwardly.
=======================
A society is strong if indivdualism is taken to mean

provide nurture for strengthening each {garanteed healthcare, education, job, pension}, and also seek to have them freely favor cooperation, not competetion.

As in the three musketeers,

ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE.

Indvidualism is a slippery word.

I cant think of any good to come from competition. But i see much to like in the idea of cooperation.

Competition springs from hate... cooperaton from varying degrees of love.

Conflict/competition sports prove my point well. Look at the feelings that arise against the other group. Hostility.. demeaning catcalls.. ranking.
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DIGNITY AND FREEDOM

where is the dignity in workplace dictatorship?
In living under a house dictator {aka, landlord}?
In being one of the 15% who are poor?
In being one of the 12 million hungry, or 3 million/yr homeless?

Where is the freedom in workplace dictatorship?
"The poor man is everyone's slave".. no freedom for the poor.
---A person weak from hunger does not feel free.. he is so desperate for food, he regretfully is willing to do humiliating work. That is not living in freedom.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 09:52 PM
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10. The Republican party appears a total failure in upholding their creed.
When will they actually fight for the principles they supposedly stand for rather than sink the party ship with "blind loyalty"?

When did the party sells it soul for corporatism/fascism?

Why are they allowing the fascists to be in charge of their party?
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:04 PM
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13. GOP hasnt had a soul since at least Hoover
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:56 PM by oscar111
Hoover refused to institute major reform, even as the depression got savage... people starved to death in NYC.
225 starved in '31 and '32, according to hosp records... who knows how many nationwide.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:16 PM
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18. I separate the GOP from the Republicans I know because,...
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:18 PM by Just Me
,...it's like separating Hitler's fascist movement from the Germans who were manipulated into that horrific fray.

I do so because I do know some Republicans who are intelligent and strong and honorable enough to separate themselves from this GOP and this administration.

On edit: I'm not really sure what about Hoover you view as being the last great Republican,...but I'd sure like to know *LOL*.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:36 PM
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30. I include Hoover in the soul-less GOP
I meant bad behavior at least began with Hoover's first day in office, possibly earlier. I just dont know much of what the GOP did earlier.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:07 AM
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31. There certainly are good Republicans.
I don't know very many, since most of my friends and family are Democrats, but the few I do know are progressives. And NONE of these good people have any use for Bush and his cohorts.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:37 PM
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22. Hoover dam was mostly constructed during the Roosevelt Administration
Design and preliminary work was done under Hoover. At that time it was called the Boulder Canyon Dam. All the heavy construction was done under Roosevelt.

Just thought you might want to straighten that up before a repug confronts you.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:07 PM
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29. thanks, good point
always good to get errors cleared up.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:01 PM
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12. I BELIEVE I'm gonna throw-up.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:13 PM
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16. Taking point 2 apart
Equal rights...
The poor man doesnt have an equal right to enter the best hospital in town.
We are clearly graded by our wallet. Rights accrue to the money in the pocket.

Socio-economic status is a polite myth. It is nearly all economic. If you are from a high social status family, but poor, you are excluded from most social institutions.. like hospitals, choice area housing purchase, a fat pension.. on and on.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:05 PM
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14. This is easy to explain....
when you take into account the fact that Republicans are liars and hypocrites.
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:05 PM
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15. Bull S*&$ prue 100% Bull S#@%
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:05 PM by DemGirl7
the second one made me almost pee my pants...it's so far from the Republican Party I know of that is in control....Lincoln is spining in his grave...and has been for quite some time...
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:23 PM
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20. Point 3 disassembled
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:26 PM by oscar111
economic growth only averages 3 percent. Several nations have beaten that over the long run.

Prosperity? 12 million hungry is not a good ad for a nation trying to claim world leadership.

Prosperity? A showcase nation ought not have people dying in the streets.. the homeless die at three times the normal rate, from heat, cold, rat bites, hunger.
100,000/year dead, since reagan began mass homelessness. That's prosperity?

Prosperity? The Great Depression is a part of our track record. Not a good track record at all. Sad.. pathetic, are the words for it.

Opportunity? The Job Shortage is now 12 million. Counting jobless and discouraged. If we all had PhD's, 12 million would still be jobless. Where is opportunity for our 12 million jobless who want work/opportunity?


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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:54 PM
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26. Indeed....
...they originally put (NO QUEERS) at the end of that one, but decided to delete it the last moment.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:16 PM
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17. I'm a Republican because ignoring problems makes them go away.
:p
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:19 PM
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19. Words are cheap. Their actions speak to their real values.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:36 PM
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21. Point 5, i think it was
disassembled.

No, the best government is one that looks after its people.
Norway is a good example. Named as the best place to live by the UN agency that reviews such things.

Private orgs and families have never been able to meet the need to end poverty or care for the deranged.

The deranged need institutions with twentyfour hour caretakers. Families cannot do that.. they would get no sleep. Currently, reaganite policy is tossing many of these out onto the street to slowly die.

Currently poverty is increasing. Government must intervene to end it.. starting with jobs for all, not the current job shortage of twelve million.

Only government has the massive resources to end these problems.. gov must look after our people, not strain to shrink away to a skeleton as people suffer.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:46 PM
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23. Point 7
Strong? we are strong?

Mass hunger, mass homelessness.

Sixty percent in poverty at some time in their lives.

Record bankruptcy.

Crime .. last i looked years ago.. murder rate twelve times higher than Northern Ireland with its civil war. Murder rate thirty times that of Rome.

Eighty percent not happy with the healthcare system.

Covert racism everywhere. Unadmitted, but there. A hidden civil clash. A lack of a feeling of unity with all other american citizens.

Vote apathy. Half vote, half do not.

We are a weak nation, and runaway factories are bleeding away what strength we have.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:54 PM
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25. Final Point
No, the dem party is the best vehicle for good ideas.

Has been for many decades.

Want to protect good people from poverty? End poverty.. and the GOP has never even made that a goal, to the best of my knowledge.

You cant protect the Good, from poverty, unless you end all poverty. Because you cannot sift out the Good in a reliable zero error way, and then protect only them. So... You must end poverty in toto.

GOP is a vehicle for making the US into a copy of Mexico.

The dem goal is Canada.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 10:47 PM
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24. What was that...?
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 10:47 PM by kiki
Government clearest... closest? Oh, closest? To the... what? Government closest to the... the people?

Sorry, it's hard to hear past thirty feet of riot squad and secret service guys moving about. Good point, though.

And no questions, please.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:04 PM
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28. Point 8 disassembled .. Human Rights, basic ones-food, shelter,healthcare
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 11:41 PM by oscar111
Human rights..

BACK TO THE BASICS

The most basic human rights are the rights to
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food
shelter
healthcare
==============

then, to

a free education
a job
a pension

NONE OF THESE seem to be mentioned by the GOP in their travels to "backward" nations.

Again.. the most basic rights grauantee
================
your body will continue.. food, shelter, healthcare.
=================

We have no solid right to these here {save for a food stamp program that has left 12 million hungry... and a similarly weak voucher housing plan leaving three million homeless over a year's time..... and shabby charity hospitals}

Then, rights to what you need to prosper as an adult.. a totally free of cost schooling {parts of Europe have, and California pre-Governor Reagan had, .. free college},
-- the guarantee of a job {some job, not necessarily one which you are goofing off at, or incompetent in} , and

---finally a fat.. I mean FAT pension for dignity {we sure do not have that}.
=======================
I wish basic Human Rights would
appear in our own land someday.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:36 AM
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32. They have to reassure themselves now?
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 06:37 AM by d_b
Poor bastards.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:40 AM
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34. I BELIEVE anything I see on Faux News or read in an email
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 06:41 AM by ComerPerro
I BELIEVE whatever Bush or someone anyone in his administration says, no matter how obvious of a lie it is.

I BELIEVE that every unborn baby deserves the chance at life. ... ... Of course, afterward, he could be neglected, abused, or he could starve to death and I simply don't give a shit.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:40 AM
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35. Point 4 makes me laugh to NO end.
Actually, ALL of those points make me laugh, as the administration the pukes adore are so horrible at following them, but that one makes me laugh the most.

Wanting to privatize a once nearly guaranteed institution that your own administration is borrowing from continuously is NOT fiscal responsibility.

Asian nations owning trillions of your debt is NOT fiscal responsibility.

Skyrocketing the debt to the same number as what your economy is worth is NOT fiscal responsibility.

A nearly trillion dollar swing from surplus to deficit in 4.5 years is NOT fiscal responsibility.

Taxing work and not wealth to fund your wars and invasions, which you greedbag plutocrat fuckheads have done every single time you take office, is NOT allowing the little guy to keep what he earns by ANY stretch.

The "free enterprise" belief cracks me up as well. Repukes continually praise and shop at Wal-Mart, a company that destroys small businesses, towns, their ecosystems and their way of life, all while employing near-poverty line labor.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:14 AM
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36. The reason that you agreed with 8 of the 9 statements is because they
are generalities. It's like saying, "I'm for freedom and liberty". Who disagree with a statement like that?

To use a cliche, the devil is in the details. How many of these "principals" is the GOP living up to? None or very few in my opinion.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:23 AM
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37. I believe myself to be easily fooled by the mass media and a party...
controlled fascist corporate, Neocon whackjobs.

Mmmmm.... Kool Aid!
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