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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:26 PM
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Gay facts and fantasies in Propagannon research
Gay facts and fantasies in Propagannon research
by padraig pearse
Sat Feb 19th, 2005 at 17:42:54 PST

Lots of well-meaning Kos's are reluctant to explore the gay aspects of this story for fear that it unfairly targets people because of their sexuality and distracts from the "real" issues.

My hope here is to help narrow the discussion along lines of probability as narrowed by an experienced perspective

As a seasoned gay man of a certain age I'd like to examine some of the facts that have been unearthed and to infer these facts' larger meaning from the perspective of a gay "insider". And I can tell you, from the amount of hand-wringing over the horror of leftie bloggers making a big deal over poor Jeff's former, and, overlapping career, that they are terrified that the extent of Bush's intimate Gay network will be exposed.

Given their monstruous treatment of our nation's Gays, they deserve it. Having ridden to electoral victory by unleashing the worst homophobic bigotry we've seen in decades, it is fit and just that this maelstrom of hate turns against them. (I'm sure they know the Bible quote?: "He who sows the wind, reaps the whirlwind"?. In an earthier version I've heard the same principal expressed as "He who stirs the shit, gets to eat it"

But the Gay network may also provide substantial clues as to the Dirty Tricks department of Team Bush. I think it likely there is huge overlap.

REPUBLICANS AND THEIR GAY UNDERWORLD

That many Gay Republicans should prefer the closety games of the 1950s over the open Gay culture that arose out of the post Stonewall era should come as no surprise. They are reactionaries after all. In fact, I know Gay men of a certain age and income who routinely excoriate "the fags" while nonetheless indulging appetites and behaviours that would leave Margaret Sperling's head spinning. But since the lights are out in their orgy rooms, good Republicans are happy to just overlook and pretend not to see. It is the public avowal of affection that makes them crazy over the gay marriage issue. To compare Gay marriage to a perversion, as right next to bestiality is on the face of it insane. Gay people seeking to have stable monogamous relationships accepted into their families and their communities are, in key respects, far more conservative and traditional than the many gays in the republican party who scuttle around in the shadows, procuring illicit sex and using sites like MilitaryEscortM4M.com.

~snip~

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/19/204254/937

Excellent thread at dkos. Read it!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:43 PM
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1. As a heterosexual woman, I find this pretty enlightening
Because I've always been really perplexed by the presence of gays in the GOP. How in the hell can you support an ideology that is so openly hostile to you? But then I wonder the same thing about conservative straight women. I guess if you've based your sexual identity and enjoyment on a particular scenario, it's hard to accept another paradigm. For the gay Republican males it's the illicit aspect of it. For straight women it's the comfort and familiarity of feminine submission to the dominant male. At least, that's what I think.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 12:04 AM
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2. Thanks for posting the link.
That was very well written and illuminating.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 12:06 AM
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3. a must read
for the anecdotes about Rove.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 12:42 AM
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4. Paul Bonacci, and the GOP Child Sex Ring
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Paul+Bonacc... The Franklin Sex Scandal Tried in Civil Court
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