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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:24 AM
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Why do the extreme right (fascists) say we're the extreme left?
The opposite of fascism isn't democracy, it's anarchy.

How many anarchists do we have here????
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:28 AM
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1. At least one eom
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:28 AM
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2. Because they have no other ammunition left except lies.
Not that lying is particularly foreign to them to begin with, you understand.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:54 AM
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13. When I think of how terrible we thought Nixon was...
turned out, we hadn't seen NUTHIN' yet!!

:evilfrown:
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:46 PM
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25. True
Nixon really was not far right on policy, which left plenty of room for things to get worse.

Nixon was quite bad with respect to dishonesty and secrecy, but John Dean's book has demonstrated how Bush is Worse than Watergate.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:59 AM
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27. I heard Dean on C-SPAN tonight and he said that there are
over 1000 hours of Nixon tapes still unreleased. I hadn't realized that.

He also made a point of saying that the inner-workings of the Nixon presidency "weren't very pretty."

I guess Ike might have been the last good Republican president.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:32 AM
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3. Who cares!?!
I refuse to be a slave to their thoughts, ideals and statements. Beyond that, they can still kiss my ass! And so can the Chimp!

:kick:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:36 AM
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6. Well, because it's inaccurate, for one.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:32 AM
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4. Because, compared to where they are on the political...
... spectrum, we look a long, long, long way away. :P
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:37 AM
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7. That's for sure
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:36 AM
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5. anarchist is not extreme left
I believe they are thinking socialist/communist when they refer to extreme left, and they are right.

A little socialism never hurt anyone. It puts people first.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 03:38 AM
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15. Exactly
I'm a socialist for that reason. I think that any philosophy can be taken too far, but a little socialism is what the New Deal is all about. Helping people to help themselves.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:39 AM
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8. Becaue if you're not in lock-step with them drinking the kool aid, your
far left.

It's also their kind of code word for "commie".
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oldfogey Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:46 AM
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9. some do not look into things
because there are too many examples of times when our allies have appeared self righteous or "holier than thou" in a sense. We are not well defined in the view of the public and some people only see the extreme views and look no further. Some have never seen a good example of a level headed democrat.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:49 AM
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10. I thought they were calling us the "angry left".
:evilgrin:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:51 AM
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12. Yet they're the ones who are angry-- and I don't know why
They have what they want, don't they? But I hear on AAR how ANGRY the Conservatives are.

Shouldn't they be happy campers?? :crazy:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 03:39 AM
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16. No, because they used their anger and their victimhood
to get ahead and they see no reason to change tactics now.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:51 AM
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11. Simple. Because they want to think of themselves as "centerist". nt
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 03:13 AM
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14. RWingers are mostly just plain ignorant and stupid.
Dems believe in Capitalism but with a mix of social responsibility. Dems are not socialists and sure as Hell are not Communists. Even the Green are not Socialists, although they are to the left of Dems. The RW are turning into Fascists, although they themselves are to ignorant &/or stupid to even realize it. Most of them prolly don't know the meaning of that word. If I were a Dem I wouldn't let them frame Dems the way they are trying to do. It's way past due that Dems start fighting back.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 03:51 AM
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17. The current admin has shifted the viewpoint so far to the right
that Pat Buchanan appears as a moderate.

Those that used to be centrists are now labeled as far left liberals.

It all depends on the perspective.
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RazzleCat Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:47 AM
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19. Because its a conditioned response
When you listen to right wing radio, or see right wing talk shows the "ultimate" insult is to call someone a liberal. A case of when Rush does it its funny and insulting, so I will too.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:23 AM
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18. I think I'm more of a socialist
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 04:24 AM by libodem
but when the government isn't for the people,and by the people, and other option is aristocracy I think anarchy is an option. But then I'm an old sixty's hippy.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:51 AM
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20. Because we are. (We being DU)
But, they do this to anyone who is a Democrat.

They want to marginalize the Democratic party.

Apparently 48% of the voting population is on the extreme left.

And the 51% that Bush got? They are the moderates.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:58 AM
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21. because the specturm isn't a straight line.
both extremes meet up and get pretty fuzzy around totalitarianism and authoritarianism.
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zenpig Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:31 AM
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30. fascism isn't just a right thing
Politically, DerBeppo is correct...the question framed as one spectrum having an opposite doesn't fit into the political world; it is not linear. Fascism, and I know it's not a popularly held view here, isn't simply a product of the far right and has also historically stemmed from the far left though we give it a different name; totalitarian socialist regimes are still, by definition, facist. The distinction between the far left and far right, as DerBeppo stated, gets pretty fuzzy and have more in common with each other than what either probably wants to admit ;) Once they reach their facist extremes, there really isn't any point in calling them left or right anymore.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:00 AM
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22. makes them look moderate.
In so far that fascism is a form of despotism (which it is), fascism is in fact the opposite of democracy.

"Despotism", Encyclopaedia Britannica Films, 1946
http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=prelinger&collectionid=00178
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:28 AM
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23. Because it fits their agenda to say that.
Bill Clinton was a total centrist and look what they did to him. Overall, this country has a skewed perspective as to what is left and what is right. There is very little voice for a true leftist (not at the tip of the spectrum, but say, Socialism) anywhere in American politics when centrism is considered far left.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:33 AM
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26. Exactly-- centrism IS now considered far left... bizarre
The righties would go ballistic if anarchists were ever unleashed on them!!!!!

:evilgrin:
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CindyDale Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:37 AM
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24. The media has skewed it
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 01:03 AM
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28. Yes-- damn their ugly, corrupt, evil, cotton pickin' hearts
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 01:05 AM by ailsagirl
I hope to God they get their comeuppance once day... SOON

Because they're fully as complicit in this slimy, sleazy mess we call the * administration as those in it.

How do they sleep at night? Counting dollar bills??

Money can only provide so much-- they're treading a dangerous path, one that can only end in utter and complete disaster. I can't believe they're so stupid as to not see it. I guess some people are masters at deluding themselves.

:nuke:
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 03:25 AM
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29. That's because they think
anyone to the left of Joe Lieberman is an 'extremist'
I'm not an anarchist, btw.
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