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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:55 PM
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HUNTER S. THOMPSON QUOTES
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 11:55 PM by WilliamPitt
from 'Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail' (collected for my new book):

"Objective Journalism is a hard thing to come by these days. We all yearn for it, but who can point the way? As for mine...well, my doctor says it swole up and busted about ten years ago. The only thing I ever saw that came close to Objective Journalism was a closed-circuit TV setup that watched shoplifters in the General Store at Woody Creek, Colorado. I always admired that machine, but I noticed that nobody paid much attention to it until one of those known, heavy, out-front shoplifters came into the place...but when that happened, everybody got so excited that the thief had to do something quick, like buy a green popsicle or a can of Coors and get out of the place immediately. So much for Objective Journalism. Don't bother to look for it here - not under any byline of mine; or anyone else I can think of. With the possible exception of things like box scores, race results, and stock market tabulations, there is no such thing as Objective Journalism. The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms."

"My seat companion for the flight from Washington to San Francisco was Edward Bennet Williams, the legendary trial lawyer, who is also president of the Washington Redskins. He is backing Muskie, and as he talked I got the feeling that he thought he was already at a point where, sooner or later, we would all be. 'Ed's a good man,' he said. 'He's honest. I respect the guy.' Then he stabbed the padded seat arm between us two or three times with his forefinger. 'But the main reason I'm working for him,' he said, 'is that he's the only guy we have who can beat Nixon.' He stabbed the arm again. 'If Nixon wins again, we're in real trouble.' He picked up his drink, saw it was empty and put it down again. 'That's the real issue this time.,' he said. 'Beating Nixon. It's hard to even imagine how much damage those bastards will do if they get another four years.'

"How many more of these goddam elections are we going to have to write off as lame but 'regrettably necessary' holding actions? And how many more of these stinking double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me at the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote for something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils? I understand, along with a lot of other people, that the big thing, this year, is Beating Nixon. But that was also the big thing, as I recall, twelve years ago in 1960 - and as far as I can tell, we've gone from bad to worse to rotten since then, and the outlook is for more of the same."

"Once they let you get away with running around for ten years like a king hoodlum, you tend to forget now and then that about half the people you meet live from one day to the next in a state of such fear and uncertainty that about half the time they honestly doubt their own sanity. These are not the kind of people who really need to get hung up in depressing political trips. They are not ready for it. Their boats are rocking so badly that all they want to do is get level long enough to think straight and avoid the next nightmare."

"The assholes who run politics in this country have become so mesmerized by the Madison Avenue school of campaigning that they actually believe, now, that all it takes to become a Congressman or a Senator - or even a President - is a nice set of teeth, a big wad of money, and a half-dozen Media Specialists."

"I went to Nixon's Inauguration. Washington was a sea of mud and freezing rain. The mood of the crowd was decidedly ugly. You couldn't walk 50 feet without blundering into a fistfight. The high point of the parade, of course, was the moment when the new President's car passed by. But it was hard to be sure which one it was. The Secret Service ran a few decoys down the line, apparently to confuse the snipers and maybe draw some fire...but nothing serious happened: just the normal hail of rocks, beer cans and wine bottles...so they figured it was safe to run the President through. Nixon came by - according to the TV men - in what appeared to be a sort of huge, hollowed-out cannonball on wheels. It was a very nasty looking armored car, and God only knows who was actually inside it."

"There are very few members of the establishment press who will defend the idea that things like aggressive flatulence, forced feedings of swill, or even a barely-muted hostility on the part of the candidate would justify any kind of drastic retaliation by a professional journalist - and certainly nothing so drastic as to cause the Democratic front-runner to cut short a major speech because some dangerous freak wearing a press badge was clawing at his legs and screaming for more gin."

"How long, O Lord...How long? Where will it end? The only possible good that can come of this wretched campaign is the ever-increasing likelihood that it will cause the Democratic Party to self-destruct."

"The main problem in any democracy is that crowd-pleasers are generally brainless swine who can go out on a stage & whup their supporters into an orgiastic frenzy - then go back to the office & sell every one of the poor bastards down the tube for a nickel apiece. Probably the rarest form of life in American politics is the man who can turn on a crowd & still keep his head straight - assuming it was straight in the first place."

"Back at the Pfister lobby, I ran into Dave Aylward, a veteran of both the New Hampshire and Wisconsin campaigns, although less than a year out of Dartmouth. 'There's only one thing that worries me about being out front,' he said. 'The hacks. When McCarthy took Wisconsin in '68, the hacks were getting on board before anyone knew what was happening and they were saying, OK, kids, the fun's over, we'll run it from here, get lost. And the kids had just racked up 56 percent for McCarthy in this state. If it happens again this time, they can have the campaign. I'll just pack my bags and split.'"

"Only a lunatic would do this kind of work: twenty-three primaries in five months; stone drunk from dawn till dusk and huge speed-blisters all over my head. Where is the meaning? That light at the end of the tunnel?"

"The Wayfarer was Gene McCarthy's headquarters for the New Hampshire primary in 1968; and it was also McGovern's - unofficially, at least - in the winter of '72. The recent history of the place suggests that it may be something like the Valley Forge of presidential politics. Or maybe the Wayfarer's peculiar mystique has to do with the nature of the New Hampshire primary. There is nothing else quite like it: an intensely personal kind of politics that quickly goes out of style when the field starts narrowing down and the survivors move on to other, larger, and far more complex states. The New Hampshire primary is one of the few situations in presidential politics where the candidates are forced to campaign like human beings, on the same level with the voters."

"Vietnam veterans like Ron Kovic are not welcome in Nixon's White House. They tried to get in last year, but they could only get close enough to throw their war medals over the fence. That was perhaps the most eloquent anti-war statement ever made in this country, and that Silent March on the Fontainebleau on August 22 had the same ugly sting to it. There is no anti-war or even anti-establishment group in America today with the psychic leverage of the VVAW. They are golems, come back to haunt us all."

"It is a nervous thing to consider: Not just four more years of Nixon, but Nixon's last four years in politics - completely unshackled, for the first time in his life, from any need to worry about who might or might not vote for him the next time around. If he wins in November, he will finally be free to do whatever he wants...or maybe 'wants' is too strong a word for right now. It conjures up images of Papa Doc, Batista, Somoza; jails full of bewildered 'political prisoners' and the constant cold-sweat fear of jackboots suddenly kicking your door off its hinges at four A.M."

"I hung up and drank some more gin. Then I put a Dolly Parton album on the tape machine and watched the trees outside my balcony getting lashed around in the wind. Around midnight, when the rain stopped, I put on my special Miami Beach nightshirt and walked several blocks down La Cienega Boulevard to the Losers' Club."
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:56 PM
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1. Thanks Will
This is so sad and unbelieveable.

RIP Hunter.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 11:57 PM
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2. Thank you Hunter, thank you WilliamPitt, on that I retire for the nigh
and thank you everyone who is working and fighting and trying.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:00 AM
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3. OMG

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel like someone just punched me.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:05 AM
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5. Pathetically sad.........Hawaiians use this term.....AUwe Auwe
ow way oww way....to express great distress/sadness.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:02 AM
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4. Excellent flavor of Hunter S...
...................
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:11 AM
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6. Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss
Either that or we really do have a generational ignorance every 30 years.

Godspeed, HST.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:12 AM
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7. thank you Will. That helps the deep ache
to see that one or two of your favorites are mine as well.

God gods this is very painful.
First Spaulding Gray, and now HST.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:15 AM
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8. More "loathing" than "fear" for HST's last few years
From a Salon article last year:

Thompson "speaks the truth about American society as he sees it, without worrying much about decorum. "Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads?" he writes,(in "Kingdom of Fear") referring to the people currently occupying the White House. "They are the racists and hate mongers among us -- they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss down the throats of these Nazis." "

He was an important voice, and it's sad to lose him, especially to suicide.


Hunter S. Thompson
By John Glassie

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/02/03/thompson/


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:16 AM
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9. Thanks
I guess. Too much loss. Just too much.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:17 AM
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10. So sorry, William...
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 12:21 AM by ultraist
Hunter S. Thompson, 1960, San Juan


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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:18 AM
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11. I'm not sure if I'm more saddened or angry.
Somewhere between... His absence will leave a permanent,half-filled hole and how dare he leave us to our own devices.

Dream well Hunter.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:19 AM
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12. Will...can you find one that's like this?....
...."maybe this is it, the year that we finally drop the masks and just admit that we're the (something like the most violent nation???) and we can do whatever we want..."

it's much more biting and eloquent than that, and it came in the last weeks of the McGovern campaign. Do you know the one I'm talking about? the first time I read it, in '72, i wept....
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:22 AM
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13. His last project was indeed Bush-related:
His most recent effort was 'Hey Rube: Blood Sport, the Bush Doctrine, and The Downward Spiral of Dumbness.'
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:26 AM
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14. Thanks William.
I have only read a few of his pieces. This helps me know him a little more.

He seemed to be a 'Jerry Jeff Walker' of writing. A rebel in his own right.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:28 AM
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15. oh god my heart is broken....
HST was the voice of my generation, the acid and ether lashed spokesman for those of us who found ourselves marooned in the bad dream that was the latter quarter of the twentieth century. RIP good doctor. I hope he used a large calibre and made a damned loud noise. Fucking hell. And I don't have a drop of alcohol in the house. Damn.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:30 AM
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16. My favorite
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 12:37 AM by Karmadillo
This is from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Hard to believe there was ever a world where one could imagine, even mistakenly, victory was inevitable. We're a long way from there now.

http://www.bluesock.org/~ben/writinghtml/011.html

"And that, I think, was the handle--that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting--on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark--the place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:36 PM
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48. I happened to have watched "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" Sat. night
when he said the above quote I cried. It's so poignant and so true.

thanks for posting that.

RIP HST

P.S. He had the same birthday as me - July 18
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:46 AM
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17. ttt
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:22 AM
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18. Kick
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:28 AM
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19. from his book on the 72 election......absolute must reading
On Hubert Humphrey: "A treacherous, gutless old ward-heeler who should be put in a goddamn bottle and sent out with the Japanese Current."
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 08:53 AM
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36. I also recall about HHH
"There'll never be another Hubert Humphrey. But he should be castrated anyway just to be on the safe side."
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:30 AM
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20. .
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:34 AM
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21. My favorite HST quote . . .
Thank you, Will, for starting this thread. Here's my favorite HST quote:

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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:44 AM
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22. SWEET!
Is that yours?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:48 AM
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24. Nope . . .
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 02:49 AM by Heidi
About a year ago, I found this handwritten note by HST at www.breakfastwithhunter.com , and adopted it as my DU sig.

I think these are good words to live by in these times, and a pretty good HST legacy.

(I'll be interested in hearing Ralph Steadman's eulogy of his long-time friend and co-conspirator.)

(Edit to add: Nice blog, phusion!)
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:52 AM
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25. United for Peace?
Thanks, but not mine :(

They are organizing the March 19th protests...
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:54 AM
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26. No, this:
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:55 AM
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27. Oh, thx:)
Not sure how you found it, but thanks! hehe

:toast:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:57 AM
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28. It's . . .
in your profile, silly!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:45 AM
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38. how fitting!
thanks! ~RIP Hunter~
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:46 AM
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23. Hunter about Tim Leary & Acid
"We're all wired into a survival trip now... no more of the speed that fueled the 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling conciousness expansion, without ever giving a thought to the grim meathook realities that were lying in wait for all those peoples who took him seriously. All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy peace and understanding for three bucks a hit. but their loss, and failure, is ours too. What Leary took down with him was that the central illusion of a whole lifestyle that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old mystic fallacy of the acid culture. The desperate assumption that somebody, or at least some force, is tending the light at the end of the tunnel."
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:38 AM
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29. on Hemmingway
"Perhaps he found what he came here for, but the odds are huge that he didn't. He was an old, sick, and very troubled man, and the illusion of peace and contentment was not enough for him - not even when his friends came up from Cuba and played bullfight with him in the Tram. So finally, and for what he must have thought the best of reasons, he ended it with a shotgun."

Hunter Thompson, 1964



When you've begun to think like a gun
The rest of the year has already gone
When you've begun to think like a gun
The days of the year have suddenly gone

- John Cale, "Gun"
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:54 AM
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34. hey, another John Cale fan!
and...

kick. Goddamn, Hunter.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:50 AM
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30. .
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:59 AM
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31. The music business
is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:01 AM
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32. Is that his line?
It is considered prophetic verse in the industry. I had no idea it was his line.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:02 AM
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33. AFAIK.
I've never seen it attributed to anybody else.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:58 AM
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35. .
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:26 AM
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37. It is his quote
They used it in the Guardian piece this morning. They had a boat load of great HST earlier today don't know if it is still there.
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:54 AM
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39. Even in my sadness, this made me laugh out loud
"One of my favorites was the story about when he and Ed Bradley from 60 Minutes were playing golf. It was Ed's turn to drive, and as he began his back swing, Hunter pulled a shotgun from his bag. As the ball took flight, and Ed watched the ball intently, Hunter neatly blew the ball out of the air. And, nearly giving Bradley a heart attack."

Death of an American Legend by dg
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/21/002822.php
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:57 AM
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40. On Nixon
If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin.

These are harsh words for a man only recently canonized by President Clinton and my old friend George McGovern--but I have written worse things about Nixon, many times, and the record will show that I kicked him repeatedly long before he went down. I beat him like a mad dog with mange every time I got a chance, and I am proud of it. He was scum.

Let there be no mistake in the history books about that. Richard Nixon was an evil man--evil in a way that only those who believe in the physical reality of the Devil can understand it. He was utterly without ethics or morals or any bedrock sense of decency. Nobody trusted him--except maybe the Stalinist Chinese, and honest historians will remember him mainly as a rat who kept scrambling to get back on the ship.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:17 PM
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44. That's a good one.
RIP Mr. Thompson.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:26 PM
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41. kick
:kick:
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:46 PM
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42. Hunter S. Kicked Ass....
Thanks Will for the quotes.

:kick:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:04 PM
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43. Kick n/t
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stevielizard Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:34 PM
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45. I'm going to the Woody Creek Tavern
and have a Chivas. Sadness out here in paradise.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:40 PM
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46. They were right, though, weren't they?
"The assholes who run politics in this country have become so mesmerized by the Madison Avenue school of campaigning that they actually believe, now, that all it takes to become a Congressman or a Senator - or even a President - is a nice set of teeth, a big wad of money, and a half-dozen Media Specialists."
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 07:52 PM
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47. Thanks, Will. I don't feel as safe with Hunter Thompson's voice silenced
This thread seems a fitting kind of wake for him.

He was a genius at speaking the most horrible unsaid truths in language that did not downplay their tangled ugliness yet somehow made them brilliantly clear. Oh, how we need this! With his perception, he must have suffered a great deal from continuing to face the truth instead of relaxing into the comfortable fictions of Freedom From Reality.

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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 09:00 PM
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49. Hunter was so confident for Dems in 2004!
He thought we'd get not only the Whitehouse, but Congress. I think the dissapointment had lot to do with his suicide...that and his feeling to medically weak to keep up the good fight in the cultural arena much longer. :nopity:

His spirit will still inspire energy in the movements for cultural change we need now.

:headbang:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 10:16 AM
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50. More than 30 years ago, about Super Bowl parties and sportswriters:
Rolling Stone #128, February 15, 1973

"For eight long and degrading days I had skulked around Houston with all the other professionals, doing our jobs--which was actually to do nothing at all except drink all the free booze we could pour into our bodies, courtesy of the National Football League, and listen to an endless barrage of some of the lamest and silliest swill ever uttered by man or beast..."

:evilgrin:
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