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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:20 PM
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Rumsfeld on Newshour with Jim Lerher....
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 06:43 PM by jab105
Oh my gosh, its a classic...

gotta watch...

Lerher asks about what has gone wrong in the aftermath...

Rumsfeld says, look at all that is going right!

Lehrer says...umm, but some of us thought that when you declared the war was over it would be over...

ARGHHHH!!!!

Edit: you should be able to get the real audio (even though you'll miss out on that smile (shudder!!):

http://audio.pbs.org:8080/ramgen/newshour/expansion/2003/09/10/dr.rm?altplay=dr.rm

If that doesn't work, go to:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/newshour_index.html

and click on it...you can't miss this one, trust me:)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:25 PM
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1. "Look at all that is going right"
{Looks for 7.9 nanoseconds.}

Okay Donald, I looked. Now, what about all the rest of it, you incompetent dolt?!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:26 PM
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3. It a funny interview....
I have determined Runsfeld is certifiably INSANE!!
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:34 PM
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8. rummy is insane
Rummy, do you comb your hair with bacon?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:13 PM
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23. He sounds like he's about to crack.
If Lehrer ever asks him "Why wasn't this all forseen and planned for?"
Rummy will have a coronary.

Lehrer: Didn't some people say when Saddam was taken out the war would be over?

Rummy: Not me. AND the Iraqi Army didn't surrender! They just blended into the country side, we had bad intelligence on that!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:38 AM
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30. Hah! They got bribed by us and dismissed, you idiot and liar.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-03 12:56 AM by Eloriel
Bad intel = you're too arrogant to be intelligent.

Edited: Just in case it's not clear, I'm referring to RummyDumDumb

Eloriel
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clar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:25 PM
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2. He came unstrung
It was remarkable. And Jim- He came as close to losing his temper as I've ever seen. Holy shit, what an interview.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:27 PM
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4. Thanks for the recap
Any details you can recall? I'm going to have to miss it tonight.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:29 PM
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6. You gotta see when he starts "smiling"...
I'm freaked out!
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:36 PM
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9. isn't that creepy?
I'm convinced the guy is not human... he's like some sort of reptillian space alien masquerading as human.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:40 PM
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13. Did you see it?
Just finished now, was more than 30 minutes long...and a classic, I really wish that I had recorded it, I've never seen Rummy be quite so nutty before...you gotta try to see it if you haven't already.....
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:28 PM
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5. Even though Rummy has been funny before....
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 06:29 PM by jab105
this is as close to out of control I have seen even him...

your opinion?

I'd listen if we needed more trrops, but we dont but they say that we do...but we know that we need other countries, but we cant get them, so we'll ignore that and just say we dont (good for poll numbers, you know)....

BLAH!!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:32 PM
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7. Lerher is just shaking his head...
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 06:35 PM by jab105
it's so funny!!

Rumsfeld says that he doesn't do politics and he doesn't do hypotheticals...fun!

comments?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:37 PM
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10. hes riding Rummy hard....Im lovin it...Rummy smirks like * too...
Rummy keeps saying....he hasnt heard a good argument yet to send in more troops...when he hears a good argument he will listen...that also means...My way or the hightway..or You're either with us or aainst us....arrogant bastards.

Rummy also has remarked that Iraq now has 100 free newspspers. BFD.
What the hell good does that do?

These fools are grasping at straws.
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:02 PM
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18. Iraqis should not complain
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 07:04 PM by sushi
Yes, they have a shortage of water, food, and electricity, plenty of raw sewage on the streets, there's looting, and pollution is worse because of all those fires, and they have to queue up for ages to get gas which is more expensive than before the war (this in oil-rich Iraq), but they have 100 (one hundred!) free newspapers. They have much to celebrate.

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:06 PM
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21. Lehrer asks a very short question...
... and Rumsfeld gives a long, rambling, defensive answer... "We're not really screwing up, and if we are it's not our fault. Golly, no."
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:38 PM
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11. LINK?
I want to see Jim the Stooge shake his head.

Rumnmy's got one foot in the grave and the other in a beartrap
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:44 PM
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15. I put it up top with the edit,
but here it is again...

http://audio.pbs.org:8080/ramgen/newshour/expansion/2003/09/10/dr.rm?altplay=dr.rm

or....

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/newshour_index.html

and click on the audio link

enjoy and LMK what you think:)
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:03 PM
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19. Rummy sounds sooooo broken and defensive.
He really sounds like shit, he sounds like he's having a heart attack. He's been exposed as the most incompetant Secretary of Defense we have had since modern times. He's worse than the Vietnam era DoDs.
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Palacsinta Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:38 PM
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12. Do we have the WORST intelligence in the world?
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 06:42 PM by Jethrine
Rummy kept talking about how we didn't know about the infrastructure prior to the invasion......we also didn't know about the WMD etc etc etc. I kept waiting for Leher to bring that up and ask, "Did ANYTHING we knew turn out to be right?" And then, when Rummy started talking about the stuff that DIDN'T happen.....humanitarian crisis, oil fires etc......the stuff we planned for......well, THAT was wrong, too!!

(Forgot to add that we have the humanitarian crisis & oil fires now because of his incompetence......but he won't admit that!)


We knew CRAP!
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:42 PM
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14. These bastards have crammed shit down our throats for 3 years....we
have reached critical mass...now we are dishing it right back at em....every day...and they are getting flustered..doesn't taste too good when you get a taste of your own medicine does it Mr. Magoo?
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 06:55 PM
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16. Mr. Magoo!
I think Rummy drank too much water from the coolers down there at the bowels of the CIA.

a lunatic.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:01 PM
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17. How could we not know about Iraqi infrastructure?
Don't we have satellites and spy planes and shit that can determine the state of the infrastructure? It is so hard to see electric transmission lines and lights at night?

Jesus, these people will say any damn thing. No exaggeration.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:05 PM
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20. And he's blaming Saddam's palace bills for the lack of infrastructure!
It has nothing to do with years of UN sanctions I suppose?

And IT WAS ALL A BIG SUPRISE!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:10 PM
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22. Lehrer: "Was it Saddam's strategy to give up conventional resistance...
... and go to a guerilla war, and are we facing that war now?"

Rummy: Gee, it should be interesting to find that out, wouldn't it? Golly.



And ye Gods, the questions on foreign fighters crossing the borders!

Rummy: We can't seal the long borders of Iraq, and those terrorists
are real sneaky with fake passports and stuff.

THE QUESTION NOT ASKED: Why didn't you think of that Before You INVADED!!!!!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:21 PM
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26. Rummy: I don't control the number of troops, my generals are not asking
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 07:22 PM by grytpype
for more. It's their opinion, not mine. If they want more troops, they
will have more troops, but they don't want more! There's just a few
incidents a day, real short ones!

L: But we're asking for a division of foreign troops?

R: Yes! Yes, we are trying to get more troops in there?

L: What's the difference between American and foreign troops?

R: Oh, we have a lot of responsibilities...


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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:18 PM
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24. If only this intervew had taken place before the invasion!
A day late and a dollar short!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:20 PM
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25. YEAHHHHH!!!!!!
what he said!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:24 PM
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27. I couldn't listen to the whole thing, it made me very uncomfortable.
Rumsfeld is so clearly on the verge of a major mental breakdown.... I almost feel sorry for the guy. Almost.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:42 PM
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28. We're still looking for the WMD, apparently.
No one's told Rummy we stopped looking, and that the WMD were either stolen by looters (all of it! every drop! every trace stolen!) or were a mean trick played on poor Honest George by crafty Iraqis.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:33 AM
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29. It's strange that
one man could hold the fates (and deaths) of so many. That's one thing that has always puzzled me about this administration. Absolute power concentrated in just a handful of people. It's like the rest of the government was completely shut out. These few hijacked this country and took over the steering wheel. Unfortunately, they're driving us over the cliff.

Out of all the people who get "dissed" at this website, I think that Rumsfeld is right up at the top. He elicits more anger than even Bush, I think. He appears to be the #1 hated man in the US (the world?). Look at the number of posts whenever you see the word "Rumsfeld".

Just some observations:

a) he seems to love adulation and credit. He seems to just roll around in it. If there's a problem, however, he doesn't hesitate to extricate himself fast. "I would love to take credit for the plan , but it was actually planned by Gen. Franks".

b) he has a real shaky sense of truth and fiction. Which is too bad for a high-profile public personality, because the tape recorder is always turned on. People are always keeping track. Which makes for a very nerve-wracking career.

c) he appears to have a very poor control of his emotions. Seems to be emotionally immature. I've heard him get angry, and his voice gets shrill. He has a real hard time controlling his anger. You wonder: how can someone control the lives of millions, if they can't get a grip on their own emotions.

d) he uses colorful, poetic adjectives. I think it's something that adds to his credibility. Weird ways of using it, though. It's almost like he's not taking people's lives & deaths seriously. "Looking for WMD's is not a treasure hunt".

STRANGE MAN
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 12:40 AM
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31. There's a long post
that Steve Gilliard just put up on his blog about this interview...Donald Rumsfeld: nothing to see here. Well worth the time to read it all.

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/
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