AARP is the boulder in the middle of the highway, USA Next is the dynamite

[LynneSin]

http://aarp.typepad.com/socialsecurity/

These anti-AARP efforts are rooted in neoconservative ideology. Charles Jarvis is president USA Next and was deputy secretary for the interior in the Reagan and first Bush administrations. The true motives of these anti-AARP efforts are clear in this quote from him:

They (AARP) are the boulder in the middle of the highway to personal savings accounts. We will be the dynamite that removes them.



I hope that when Chuckie Jarvis is retired he ends up in some third rate nursing home like the one the grandma living at in the movie "Happy Gilmore"

:grr:

[ewagner]

1. Wasn't Jarvis

the idiot behind California's Proposition 13 (property tax freeze) a few years back?

If he is, I remember him...this guy is delusional at best.

[Cleita]

6. If it's the same Jarvis, I hope his place in Hell is being

prepared. It was he and Reagan that caused the beginning of the homeless population in California that eventually went nationwide when other states adopted many of their policies. This social problem started in the middle of the seventies, become visibly noticable at the beginning of the eighties, and persists to this day.

[TahitiNut]

7. That's the late Howard Jarvis

No relation that I know of, other than kissing the ass of the wealthy under the guise of "populism."

[Cleita]

9. You're right, it was Howard, however this Jarvis,

it was just said on AAR worked for Ronald Reagan when he was Governor of California and then President. Could he be a relative of Howard?

[Downtown Hound]

2. I seriously think this will backfire on them

The one voting group you don't want to mess with is the seniors.

[Cleita]

8. Well, they'd better not mess with me and my peer group of

old fogies.

[madrchsod]

3. aarp

links include-daily kos and "dude,where`s my retirement?"

[Cleita]

10. Although AARP is trying to mend its image after backing

the bogus prescription drug benefit under Medicare, the head honcho is still that guy Novelli, a Repuke implant.

[Hamlette]

17. I'm not willing to forgive AARP yet, but check out the link

in the first message. They diss on Fox. Tells you not to believe them (almost).

USA (which I've never heard of until this thread) might have bit of more than it can chew. I can see making an argument against seniors (I wouldn't dare, my mom would kick my ass) but USA seems to have made it personal which just gives AARP amunition to discredit them.

Hopefully this will be fun to watch. Unless Bush figures out how to quiet all seniors.

[Cleita]

18. Go to their website.

I haven't been as disgusted since I first accessed the PNAC website. On first glance it seems some of the same gargoyles are behind it as well. Website address is a couple of posts below.

On edit, website is: http://www.usanext.org/

[madrchsod]

24. it`s the aarp blog site on ss

-it`s not the main page.

[oasis]

4. Still a greedy Republican at 93, Art Linkletter is doing his best to

discredit AARP so that corporate vultures can have a field day preying upon seniors.

[MsTryska]

5. I think USA-next needs to be taught a lesson.

let's dig up as much dirt as we can on this organization, and discredit them before they can even get their agenda off the ground.

[Cleita]

12. Good idea. n/t

[chomskysright]

14. DITTO: here is what is on USA Next web page today...

News & Information

AARP Distorts the Public Opinion Data on Social Security
Peter Ferrara, a senior fellow at the Institute for Policy Innovation and director of the Social Security Project for the Free Enterprise Fund, says "the public should recognize from the analysis of these polls that AARP is a liberal lobbying group, not an honest representative of seniors."


Transcript: Art Linkletter on Neil Cavuto
USA Next National Chariman Art Linkletter recently discussed AARP's liberal bias with Fox News' Neil Cavuto.


USA Next Releases National Survey on Social Security
Survey results show a majority of Americans support Personal Retirement Accounts and provides more evidence AARP manipulated their poll on Social Security.


USA Next Works for You and Your Family!
USA NEXT Works for You!
Join Now and Get Your Free Reports on Social Security and Health Care Solutions.


The Lobbying Emperor Has No Clothes
Research by USA staff reporters


AARP Against Trustees of Social Security
Researched by USA staff reporters


The High Cost of Health Regulation
BY CHRISTOPHER J. CONOVER
Christopher J. Conover is an assistant research professor at Duke University and author of the Cato Policy Analysis “Health Care Regulation: A $169 Billion Hidden Tax.” A longer version of this article appeared in “The High Cost of Health Regulation” by Christopher J. Conover, Cato Policy Report, November/December 2004, page 19. Go to www.cato.org for linkage to the longer analysis. Cato is a premiere center for free market analysis and solutions in Washington, D.C.


Seven Deadly Sins of AARP
Research by USA staff reporters


Minorities and Women Vs. AARP



Financial Negligence Bordering on the Criminal
AARP should be held accountable for the financial disasters they have lobbied for over the past decades.


AARP Against Taxpayers
Ten Issues Showing How Wrong AARP's Stand Has Been


AARP Vs. Freedom and Prosperity
AARP, the planet’s largest “liberal” lobby, is now openly opposing President Bush on
Social Security.
BY CHARLIE JARVIS, CHAIRMAN OF USA NEXT


Mastering the Art of Killing Your Competition
BY CHARLIE JARVIS, CHAIRMAN OF USA NEXT


Young Americans Hit by AARP



The Growing Rebellion Against AARP
Editors Note: The following personal emails are a small sampling of thousands that spontaneously exploded online when AARP attacked President Bush’s plans to allow workers to choose Personal Retirement Accounts of their own in Social Security.


Who Really Works for America's Families?
Art Linkletter discusses which organizations are really working for seniors and their families -- and which one is just claiming too.


Bill O’Reilly Spanks AARP
Fox News megastar takes AARP to task for hiding its liberal bias from members.


AARP Caught Manipulating Poll Results
Explosive revelation threatens AARP credibility & raises serious questions about a liberal bias inside the AARP.


AARP Curses USA's Grandchildren
AARP fails to recognize that Social Security no longer is a good deal for working people today, the children and grandchildren of its members. Instead, they turn to their old liberal mantra saying "Let Them Be TAXED!"


The Anti-God Squad Hits the Classrooms!
California teacher censored as school district forbids handouts that reference significant documents in U.S. history because they mention God


Ronald Reagan vs. the ACLU
Did they want to impeach him for this?


Americans Want Modernized Social Security!
Seniors’ Post Election Survey Shows


USA Next Releases "Stop Scaring Seniors" Ads
New ads featuring Art Linkletter expose reemergence of campaign strategies designed specifically to scare America's seniors.
Click Here to listen to the ad.



USA Next Remembers 9-11
A slideshow tribute to the victims and families of 9-11. We will never forget.


Super Size Me's Real Magic
Duane Freese exposes serious questions about legitimacy and accuracy of Morgan Spurlock's Super Size Me movie.


Was Your Mom Right?: The Truth About Cod Liver Oil
We all know how it tastes, but does it work or not? Dr. Julian Whitaker provides real answers to this long-standing question.


Price Controls and the Economics of
Medical Innovation: Part One
James K. Glassman on what creates and destroys health breakthroughs


Kids Say the Darndest Things: Unplugged
USA NEXT National Chairman, Art Linkletter, recalls a few memorable moments from the "Kids Say the Darndest Things"


Hero for All Seasons: St. Augustine
If St. Augustine were alive today, he would be a culture warrior fighting tooth-and-nail against the forces of secularism, convenient but false religious doctrine, and moral degeneracy.


How Judges Make the Law
Are judges an autocracy today? Did the founders really view appointed lawyers as the final definers of all laws?


How to Body Surf When You're 91 Years Old
Triple Emmy Award winner Art Linkletter reveals his "Long Life-Healthy Life" Test -- tested over 91 years and still counting.


The Fountain of Youth?
Ponce de Leon died looking for the fabled Fountain of Youth. We recognize the folly of his endeavor, but the concept of extending longevity remains intriguing.


Art Linkletter's Darndest Things
An exclusive interview of entertainment-pioneer Art Linkletter by USANext Chairman and CEO, Charles Jarvis.


The Super Size Me Con
Learn the real facts behind Morgan Spurlock's publicity stunt.


Seniors to Extremists: “Stop Destroying American Jobs!”
United for Jobs Champions Jobs and Economic Growth


Warning: Medicare Drug Discount Card Program
Con artists on the prowl with new Rx card release


The Social Security You Wish You Had
Emmy winning financial expert Jonathan Pond on "how to turn Social Security from a Debt Bomb to a Prosperity Machine"


Let Our Grandchildren Have Prosperity, Not Debt!
Seniors Say National Survey Supports Personal Retirement Accounts


Senior Virginians Declare War on Massive Tax Hikes
TV Ads Launched to Reveal Shell Game


Does Marriage Matter?
Read what President Bush has to say about marriage.


Ronald Reagan: A Leader Who Bridges the Generations
The opportunity to live in freedom is enhanced when all ages share freedom's core values.


A Legacy for the Children and Grandchildren
The score shows that this USA Retirement Freedom Plan is the best possible deal for today's seniors.


Food Fight: Up Against the Wall, Burger Man!
Some lawyers currently trailblazing litigation against food companies are declaring: "Fat lawsuits have already been won!"


Lawyers Killing Health Care?
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
-Henry VI, Part 2, act 4, sc. 2,1


Dangers of Delusional Doctors
Three delusions are driving doctors to claim the Canadian health care system is a better option.


Stop Bankrupting Us, Mom and Dad
An Angry Letter to Our Parents


Is Mel Gibson Brave Heart?
An Interview with the Director and Star


Social Security Administration Issues Positive Analysis of Personal Retirement Accounts
The new report demonstrates conclusively why it's unnecessary to even contemplate reducing future Social Security benefits or raising payroll taxes.


Taxing Seniors To Death…And After
"Liberal" Compassion Hurts


USA Social Security Alert: Social Security Unsustainable!
Trustees Report Sounds Alarm Bells for Future of Social Security


Seniors Need Affordable Medicines NOW!
They DON’T Need the Dangers of Imported Drugs!


The Myths of Canadian Health Care
Has Canada really found a formula for providing universal coverage for less money?


Citizens Beware!
Consumer Watchdog Alert: Con Men May Steal Your Identity


Direct to Consumer Ads
Expert Says Prescription Drug Advertising Is the Solution - Not the Problem


Senate Begins Debates on Social Security Reform
USA Social Security Alert


Socialized Health Care Horror Story
Hospital turns away expectant mothers
Didsbury move temporary, officials say


Can 7,700 Doctors Be Wrong About Health Care?
A cursory analysis of Canada's health care system shows how utterly foolish emulation of Canada would be.


New Study Finds Increased Multivitamin Use by the Elderly Could Save Medicare $1.6 Billion
Daily Use of Multivitamin by Elderly could save $1.6 Billion Over Next Five Years


Mental health care 'a maze'
Report calls current situation 'a crying shame'


Rich Freeloader Countries -- France, German, Canada - Rob America on Health Care
How Americans subsidize bad policies abroad


Let the Campaign Begin
Social Security Administration releases score for proposal of much larger personal accounts.


Social Security Reform Breakthrough
Chief Actuary issues favorable analysis of proposal for personal accounts.


Executive Summary of the the Social Security Plan That Will Unite the Generations for America's Future
A Progressive Proposal for Social Security Private Accounts


Full Text of the Plan That Will Unite the Generations for America's Future
A Progressive Proposal for Social Security Private Accounts


Health Care Horror Story of the Day
Experts predict exodus of medical grads due to lack of residency positions - DENNIS BUECKERT, Canadian Press


Seniors Cheer Deep Tax Cuts
USA Radio Ads Feature JFK and Art Linkletter

[chomskysright]

15. web site: http://usanext.org/news.cfm

[Cleita]

16. I was at their website and I need a shower and then

I need to wash the shower with lye and bleach afterwards. First did you see the poll?

"Did you know that AARP has received over $1 BILLION in taxpayer dollars over the past 20 years?"

How do you vote yes or no on this???

I tried to go to the GAO site to see if I could find any such disbursements but couldn't access it at this time.

Not only that they aren't very forthcoming as to whom their Board is. So far I could only find out that Art Linkletter is the retiring chair and that guy Charlie Jarvis is the new one.

[LynneSin]

19. That's because this jerks learned their lessons

Hannity use to have polls on his website where there was one clear repuke answer and one more sane democratic answer. Then we liberals would get in there and mess with the polls so Hannity's polls would show like 75% think Bush really did dodge the war - stuff like that.

So now all of these websites are basically creating the 21st Century of the "Push Poll". Lee Atwater use to use Push Polls to help get repukes elected back in the 70s/80s. THey'd make phone polls with questions like "Did you know Jimmy Carter did (Fill in the blank with some disgusting lie)" or "How do you feel that Bill Clinton may have "again - another disgusting question")

So now we have online Push Polls that aren't really meant to gauge what people are thinking but to put an idea out there and make folks think about that concept.

Vile and disgusting

[LynneSin]

20. That's because this jerks learned their lessons

Hannity use to have polls on his website where there was one clear repuke answer and one more sane democratic answer. Then we liberals would get in there and mess with the polls so Hannity's polls would show like 75% think Bush really did dodge the war - stuff like that.

So now all of these websites are basically creating the 21st Century of the "Push Poll". Lee Atwater use to use Push Polls to help get repukes elected back in the 70s/80s. THey'd make phone polls with questions like "Did you know Jimmy Carter did (Fill in the blank with some disgusting lie)" or "How do you feel that Bill Clinton may have "again - another disgusting question")

So now we have online Push Polls that aren't really meant to gauge what people are thinking but to put an idea out there and make folks think about that concept.

Vile and disgusting

[MsTryska]

25. here's what i got on them so far:

usa next website owner:

Domain ID:D103430775-LROR
Domain Name:USANEXT.ORG
Created On:10-Dec-2003 13:50:38 UTC
Last Updated On:06-Dec-2004 16:14:42 UTC
Expiration Date:10-Dec-2005 13:50:38 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:tunV9XkfVbay6FPX
Registrant Name:william Brindley
Registrant Organization:None
Registrant Street1:3900 Jermantown Road
Registrant Street2:suite 450
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Fairfax
Registrant State/Province:VA
Registrant Postal Code:22030
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[phone]
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:[phone]
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[e-mail]
Admin ID:tunV9XkfVbay6FPX
Admin Name:william Brindley
Admin Organization:None
Admin Street1:3900 Jermantown Road
Admin Street2:suite 450
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Fairfax
Admin State/Province:VA
Admin Postal Code:22030
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:[phone]
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:[phone]
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[e-mail]



united seniors website owner:

Registrant: Make this info private
United Seniors Association, Inc. (C18798-OR)
3900 JERMANTOWN RD STE 450
FAIRFAX, VA 22030-4900
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Domain Name: UNITEDSENIORS.COM

Administrative Contact :
Patten, Kathleen
(KPO120)
[e-mail]
3900 JERMANTOWN RD STE 450
FAIRFAX, VA 22030-4900
US
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]



i then googled on United Seniors And came up with this from a Denver paper:

http://www.denverdems.org/news_views/pdf/junjuly03.pdf#search='united%20seniors.org'

"United Seniors Association, Inc. is one
of three “senior” groups started by right-wing direct-mail
fundraising guru, Richard Viguerie, to solicit donations from
seniors under the guise of protecting Medicare and Social
Security. In reality, Viguerie’s groups support Republican
efforts to slash and ultimately eliminate these programs.
UnitedSeniorsh.org is not nonpartisan, as it professes to be,
but rather is a front for a right-wing agenda."

[Cleita]

27. Another thing too.

As a dot.org, it seems they are claiming non-profit status. Isn't this the reason DU doesn't claim non-profit status is because of it's highly political nature? This website is highly political IMO and this means that any money they recieve in donations is tax-deductible to the donor. Methinks they have violated the law here.

[Cleita]

28. Also, just said on the radio, USA next will be spending

ten million dollars in advertising to undermine AARP. Wonder where that ten million is coming from?:+

[MsTryska]

29. hmmmm.....from the website:

USA Next is a national project of the United Seniors Association which is celebrating its 14th anniversary as the non-partisan, 1.5 million-plus nationwide grassroots network Uniting the Generations for America's Future. United Seniors Association works to expand investment and retirement freedom, health freedom, tax freedom, national security and economic freedom for American families, their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. The organization's National Chairman is the renowned celebrity, businessman, and author Art Linkletter. Charles Jarvis is Chairman & Chief Executive.

USA is a nonprofit nonpartisan organization under section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code. Because USA lobbies on behalf of American Families, contributions are not tax deductible for tax purposes.



wonder how we can trace the 10 mil in funds. i'm not sure how to go about finding records of nonprofit financials.

[justiceischeap]

34. Here's what I found so far

http://music.press-world.com/v/1207.html

Jammin Java and the Brindley Brothers Highlighted in President Bush’s Tax Cut Address

Washington, DC – During his nationally television speech at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Bush praised two local musicians and businessmen for their “courage” in launching a new venture immediately after 9-11.

Speaking to the Tax Cut Coalition President Bush said, “I mentioned the Brindley boys were with us today, from Vienna. They…help define the entrepreneurial spirit in America. They started their business right after September the 11th, 2001. Those are confident people. Those are people that said, ‘we're not going to allow a terrorist attack to diminish our dreams to have our own business.’ I appreciate not only the courage, but I appreciate this -- that they have gone from five employees to 25 employees.”

http://homeandfamily.press-base.com/en/ds/180463/Ronald_Reagan_s_Thanksgiving_Proclamation_From_USANext.html

Ronald Reagan Talking Action Figure
Ronald Reagan's Thanksgiving Proclamation: From USANext - 2004-11-26
Ronald Reagan's Thanksgiving Proclamation: From USANext

Ronald Reagan pays expresses thanks to God for America. USA Next reissues the 1982 Thanksgiving proclamation by Ronald Reagan.

- Ronald Reagan's Thanksgiving Proclamation:

Two hundred years ago, the Congress of the United States issued a Thanksgiving Proclamation stating that it was "the indispensable duty of all nations" to offer both praise and supplication to God.

Contact Information:
Company Name: USA Next
Company Contact: William Brindley
Company Phone: [phone]
Company Site: http://www.usanext.org

The site the above press release goes to is http://www.talkingpresidents.com

[kohodog]

11. Any bets the Networks won't ban their ads?

MoveOn is "controversial," but me thinks USA Next won't have any trouble getting theirs aired.

That being said, if the networks won't play them they'll get 24/7 play on the Cable echo chamber.

Which way will it go?

[Cleita]

21. You are so right!

Look at this!

http://www.usanext.org/inthenews.cfm

[texastoast]

13. Attend your Town Hall meetings this week on Social Security

Throw some hardballs.

http://action.moveon.org/socialsecurity/selectmtg.html?zip=77381&distance=30

[LynneSin]

30. Thanks for the link but I couldn't find any within 50 miles of Wilmington

which is rough because that would include Philadelphia!!

:cry:

[texastoast]

33. Try contacting your rep's office

Here is a link of all of them.

http://www.house.gov/

[Bleacher Creature]

22. There aren't enough cliches to describe how I feel about the AARP

"You made your bed, now lie in it."

"Dance with the devil."

[Cleita]

23. Well, this USA Next crowd makes AARP look like a choir of angels.

I am still mad at them too and will only feel a sigh of relief when every last neo-con is gone from there.

[Cleita]

26. Surprise, surprise.

Listening to Sam Seder on the Randi Rhodes show, he just mentioned this USA Next website and it appears they have ties to the Swiftboar vets and Regenery Publishing that has ties to Lucienne Goldber, O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter et al. There is also a connection to the CATO Institute.

[LynneSin]

31. Hell, they've probably got folks connected to PNAC

Those folks are all interconnected somehow. It's scary.

[Telly Savalas]

32. For those of who who haven't caught Kos recently...

Here is what USA Next's online ad looks like:



When I look at this ad, I get that song "one toke over the line, sweet Jesus, one toke over the line" in my head.

Edited to add: Men kissing men, or men trained to kill other men? What's worse? It's a shame the ad isn't true.