Is there any hardcore evidence that Fox news is biased

[holiday]

and not really news... I need evidence. I know about the documentary Outfoxed but haven't seen it, but I know no freeper is going to buy it and watch it. I need evidence that I can tell a few people who are being brainwashed by that stupid channel.

[Jacobin]

1. um

Have you watched it for five minutes?

[ClassWarrior]

2. If your people are hardcore Freeps, you'll never convince them...

...no matter what you say. Better to use your time reading "Don't Think of an Elephant" by George Lakoff and learn why they believe what they do.

NGU.

[CrispyQ]

8. Agreed!

My mom is a repuke & is a total fauxbot. She beleives the reason I'm so liberal is that I've been influenced by the liberal media. I asked her, "What liberal media?" & she said that I was so far left that even our liberal media doesn't seem liberal to me. Sigh. She beleives that CNN is one of the most liberal news sites. ~~Gasp!!

I have to agree with ClassWarrior, that you'll never change them. The suggestion to buy "Don't Think of an Elephant" is good. Also, visit this site: http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/ The Rockridge Institute is a liberal think tank that Lakoff mentions in his book. They discuss framing.

on edit: Also check out DU's "Frame the Debate" group. Lot's of interesting discussion there!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=252

[ClassWarrior]

14. Great suggestions Crispy.

"Don't Think of an Elephant" is only about $10, by the way, and a real easy read.

Lakoff doesn't just mention Rockridge in his book; he's a founding member and a Senior Fellow there.

NGU.

[LiberalVoice]

3. Well

For one hting they had a little insignia on the screen that said "Stop the Bush Bashing", Do you need any more bias? How about the left leaning speakers they have on are outnumbered 4 to 1?

[mhr]

4. Buy A Few Copies In Bulk And Give Them To The Most Promising

Candidates for enlightenment.

Otherwise don't waste your time!

[htuttle]

5. Here's a Democracy Now episode about Outfoxed

The video stream for the show is still available online from this page:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/16/1442221

I think there are a lot of clips from the movie illustrating it's points in this episode.

[auburngrad82]

6. Search Google for Roger Ailes and GOP

He was and probably still is a high ranking GOP operative.

[Dr Ron]

7. Check The Repbulican Noise Machine

It's an excellent book by David Brock.

Also check Franken's book.

[Lisabtrucking]

9. How about the O'lie'ly Factor, Why would a good Christian believe

anything a harassing phone sex pervert say.

[Mandate My Ass]

10. Fox viewers most misinformed

Study: Wrong impressions helped support Iraq war

By FRANK DAVIES
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - A majority of Americans have held at least one of three mistaken impressions about the U.S.-led war in Iraq, according to a new study released Thursday, and those misperceptions contributed to much of the popular support for the war.

The three common mistaken impressions are that:

1.) U.S. forces found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

2.) There's clear evidence that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein worked closely with the Sept. 11 terrorists.

3.)People in foreign countries generally either backed the U.S.-led war or were evenly split between supporting and opposing it.

<snip>

The analysis released Thursday also correlated the misperceptions with the primary news source of the mistaken respondents. For example, 80 percent of those who said they relied on Fox News and 71 percent of those who said they relied on CBS believed at least one of the three misperceptions.

[ken-in-seattle]

11. lots:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502190001#4

also

http://www.foxbghsuit.com/Link8.html

[seabeyond]

12. if a person watching fox, cannot admit it is one sided

propaganda achine to cult like people..............really, not a thing will convince that person

[spanone]

13. Watch it for 30 seconds.

[GiovanniC]

15. Most Fox Viewers I Know Will Admit That It Leans to the Right

They will claim that this is to "balance" all the other "librul" channels and networks, or they will claim that there is nothing wrong with a channel leaning right, or they will claim that since only the right-wing agenda is correct, the only way for a channel to be accurate is to be right-wing.

[Dr Ron]

20. Fair and Balanced--Not

Yes, Fox will often try to deflect claims of bias by saying they are fair and balanced--they present both views. However, note how their discussion shows are tilted towards right wing commentators. Even when their is a liberal, they don't pick the strongest proponent. Hannity purposely picked Colmes as someone he could dominate. I've often seen newscasters (not just thier commentators) badger people they are interviewing if they present a view which counters thier own. (That's another false claim--that their commentators are conservative but newscasters are nonbiased).

[H2O Man]

16. None.

Fox News is "fair and balanced." It even says so on TV. If it weren't absolutely true, they would not be able to say that, especially on TV. Usually, if you look at the people who say mean & nasty things about Fox News, they have certain common traits, such as eyes that look suspiciously like Karl Marx's. Think of the communist lawyer in the book "Native Son," by Richard Wrong, and you have the usual type of trouble-maker that slurs Fox News.

[UTUSN]

17. Um, You Mean, APART from Their Millions of Miles of Tape of Themselves?

[kentuck]

18. Any "news" organization that takes the side of any White House..

is by definition "biased". And not only biased, but not worthy of being called a news organization.

[flyarm]

19. start with gannon !!

start with..where are the stories of a proistitute getting within feet of the president when he was not working for any media company!!!
talon news ( web site) was no in existance when gannon first went into the press briefing room...talon did not exist for at least a month while gannon sat in our white house as a whore , because gannon had not taken his 2 day $50.00 journalist class ( with lunch) until at least a month after he was in the press briefing room!!

so we had a whore prostitute sitting in our white house press breifing romm..and do make sure you tell them he was no victim..prostitution is a profession...he was a professional prostitute...

so ask them where foz is on this story as opposed to monica who worked for the government!! where are the gannon blue dress stories??

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. The movie "OUTFOXED" tells it plain and clear.

Right there on your screen, in plain english they show how friggin' biased they are. How they are given talking points every day. They are to present their stories to FAVOR Bush. One of their talking heads sister worked for the chimp's campaign. Get the movie. It'll piss you off!

[KurtNYC]

22. Here are the goods....

Internal Fox News memos

http://www.wonkette.com/archives/fox-news-memos-the-whole-batch-017613.php

snip-
From: John Moody
Date: 4/6/2004

The events in Iraq Tuesday are going to be the top story, unless and until something else (or worse) happens. Err on the side of doing too much Iraq rather than not enough. Do not fall into the easy trap of mourning the loss of US lives and asking out loud why are we there?

[Hoping4Change]

23. People go to Fox for the same reason they go to Church.

They go there to have their "beliefs" about reality and their leaders reinforced. They don't go there to have the sysem and their leaders questionned. They are getting what they need from Fox. They do not want a rational review of what is happening. IMO they are anxious people who don't want to be told anything that is not "positive". And this need for positive spin becomes addictive, trying to convince Fox viewers that its bad for them is like telling an alcoholic that his drinking is not a solution to his problems but the problem itself.