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Carolyn Lucas

Carolyn Lucas, 62, of Sims, North Carolina, is one of about 400 workers across the country who gather local tax lien and civil judgment records for National Data Retrieval, a subsidiary of the data conglomerate, ChoicePoint.
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Biewen: Do you ever give any thought to ... the amount of data that's being gathered about all of us really - and ... at a certain point whether that begins to change the kind society we live in, in any way? You ever give any thought to that kind of thing?

Lucas: I'm not sure I know exactly what you're saying.

Biewen: The war on terrorism - that, to the extent that information about, you know, who's who, where are they, what've they been doing, that that becomes part of a process of trying to find people who may be up to no good, that this contributes to that.

Lucas: No, I have never looked at it in that way. I mean, when I come to the courthouse and copy these records it's gone in a flash. You know, someone's going to come in and do this work. I enjoy this work. I enjoy not having - I have a boss, but really I am my own boss. And, I'm the one that gets on my case. And, sometimes - Eric has, he might have called a time or two and said - so I said, "Eric, I really need to get on the stick, don't I?" I think maybe a couple times he might've said, I don't know what he'd say, I said, but I'd say, "Oh Eric, I need to get on the stick, don't I?" and he said, "Ha ha, I guess you do."

But no, I do not look at it in any way as you're saying. I did not - I do not invent the records. They have been before a judge. I'm not the judge, and I'm not the keeper of the records. I collect records. And, someone's going to do it, and I enjoy it, and I - that's just how I look at it. And when I go home, I don't think about how these records are used - anything about it. I just go home satisfied that I have done my best. And that's -

Biewen: And, it's a - it's a pretty good living? You feel pretty good about what you get paid doing this work?

Lucas: It all comes together with everything that the Lord has sent. He has sent it all. ... We make a living. Well, we make a decent living, me and my husband. And - but you really have to work.
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