DU should ban "evenhanded" posts!

[unfrigginreal]

There is no reason to allow an upstart to be treated as an equal in the Democratic Party. It would go against decades of our allegiences to the party elites. Expect letters of condemnation from the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Joe Lieberman, and John Kerry if you don't rectify this situation immediately.

[Walt Starr]

1. WTF???

:wtf:

:shrug:

[RichV]

2. (sarcasm)

[unfrigginreal]

10. I'm not to good at sarcasm Walt...usually just call it like I see it.

Here ya go:

Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean drew fire from House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and several Jewish lawmakers on Wednesday over his remarks concerning Israel.

"This is not a time to be sending mixed messages," Dean's critics said in a letter circulated by Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., and signed by Pelosi and more than two dozen other Democratic House members who are supporting other candidates. "On the contrary, in these difficult times we must reaffirm our unyielding commitment to Israel's survival and raise our voices against all forms of terrorism and incitement."

snip

"It is unacceptable for the U.S. to be `evenhanded' on these fundamental issues," the letter said.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/09/10/national2031EDT0898.DTL

[w4rma]

24. Rep. Nadler says this is a "political" attack by "Gephardt supporters"

…
New York Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a Dean supporter who is Jewish, said he was comfortable with Dean's position, although Dean initially used some language that could concern some pro-Israelis. But Nadler said Dean's clarifications since then should have cleared that up.

"This is sent out by Gephardt supporters and it should be seen for what it is -- a political document trying to exploit his statement before he has a chance to clarify it," Nadler said.
…
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/09/10/national2031EDT0898.DTL

[John_H]

33. Nadler, as per usual, has it about right.

I love that guy (not because I support HD and he defended him on this issue) because he invariably calls it exactly how it is. He does not give a fuck.

[Cha]

34. Thanks! I'm a Nadler watcher! And I love the guy!

This is so cool. Just what we thought it was!

[rooboy]

3. LOL.. n/t

[Blue-Jay]

4. huh?

Blame it on the bourbon if you must, but I didn't quite get the point that you were trying to make. Could you "dumb it down" for those of us (ok...ME) that are slow on the draw?

[Cha]

5. Is "evenhanded" code red for "Outsider"!?

[Warren Stuart]

6. Depends on what the defination of evenhanded is

If it's not something I agree with, then it's not fair and balanced.

[searchingforlight]

7. They think they smell blood in the water. The sharks are at it.

[whathappened]

8. screew them so called

party elites , i'm a free voting americans and i will take a look at the good ones and throw the rest of the list out the window , so simmer down and read and take a good look at the gang and make a good decision on who you think may be the right one to run what is left of this country

[caledesi]

9. Very well said WH.

[Pepperbelly]

11. WTF are you talking about?????

That makes so little sense, I cannot even discern where you are going with this or what it is even about.

[Cha]

13. This should do some "splaining".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=108055


"I believe the position that I take on Israel is exactly the position the United States has taken for 54 years," he said on the show. But he acknowledged that saying there should be an "evenhanded policy" toward the Israelis and the Palestinians may have been a poor choice of words."

[madfloridian]

14. Ha That's because you did not read the post I told you to read.

:evilgrin:

[Pepperbelly]

16. hey madfloridian ...

Just call me Mister fucking T! I ain't got time for no jibber-jabber!

:evilgrin:

[madfloridian]

36. No jibber jabber at all.

Just a lovely picture for you.




B-)

[karlschneider]

12. You are absolutely right. Gerbils need to have their absentee ballots

sent to Peoria immediately. And all upstarts should have their lasagna wrapped in plastic just in case the waiters from Sardi's decide to press their shirts.





:eyes:

[quaker bill]

15. Dean makes sense

My friend went to Ramallah with Witness for Peace. He served as a neutral citizen observer at IDF checkpoints. He basically helped Palestinian schoolgirls cross the road and get to school past men with loaded M-16's.

No doubt, the Israelis suffer at the hands of terrorists. There is also no doubt that they respond with considerable brutality. A more even-handed approach is the only way to break the cycle of violence there. (if it can be broken)

Dean needs to hang tough. The DLC'ers are throwing a few punches, but this is nothing compared to the main event when the dirty tricks squad gets cut loose with a $200 million budget.

[Cha]

17. You "make sense", too! Thanks and Welcome to DU!

[quaker bill]

25. Thanks for the welcome

I try to (make sense)

[madfloridian]

18. Here is the statement of the year!

From the letter according to SFGate:
SNIP....""It is unacceptable for the U.S. to be `evenhanded' on these fundamental issues," the letter said. ....."

That is it, no evenhandedness in our Democratic party! :7

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/09/10/national2031EDT0898.DTL

On Edit: I don't think the utter ridiculous nature of that statement has sunk in yet.

[unfrigginreal]

20. You hit on the reason for my second post...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=316334

[madfloridian]

23. And a good one it was.

I really drew her aide into a long conversation. She stated that Pelosi did not like the violence there. I made her clarify, she to her credit tried.

I said what about the violence constantly inflicted upon the Palestinians. She started the Israeli homeland thing. I said I just happen to think that the other side deserves a homeland, too. She said there should be no violence.

So trust me, it is sincerely written letter. They meant it, no evenhandedness.

To clarify, I am neither Palestinian nor Jewish, just a Democratic who believes that both sides deserve respect.

[unfrigginreal]

29. I'm with you madfloridian! n/t

[ShaneGR]

19. What???

How the heck does Nancy Pellossi get grouped in on this?

[madfloridian]

21. The letter apparently originated from her office.

Her aide gave me that impression, and when I said it is from your office....there was no denial.

I want more clarification on this issue. This is my party, supposedly.

[bloom]

22. Heaven forbid that we should have a sensible president!

and Congress...

:eyes:

[madfloridian]

26. This should be upsetting to supporters of other candidates as well.

This is not just a Dean thing.

"It is unacceptable for the U.S. to be `evenhanded' on these fundamental issues," the letter said."

That statement should concern everyone.

[ShaneGR]

27. IGNORE

Hehe, I can't see you anymore..... YIPPY!

[madfloridian]

30. Who are you ignoring?

n/t

[Cha]

31. Your post makes no sense to the discussion going on.

:-)

[unfrigginreal]

32. Hmmm? I'm honored I guess...never had anyone 'announce' my ignoring.

Since you didn't care to elaborate on your reasons, I guess they probably weren't substantive anyway, but hey, to each his/her own.

[madfloridian]

37. That is an important first.

A :toast: to unfriggin for a first "ignore".

:toast: :yourock: :beer:

[Terwilliger]

28. Ralph Nader is god

didn't you KNOW that?

how more even-handed can I be?

[antiflagdemocrat]

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this is a great new site
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[newyawker99]

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