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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:44 AM
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TalonNews.com -- none of their news links works.
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Alisa Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:48 AM
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1. tried and couldn't get any further than the repub teaser
intros. Have they been hacked?
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:49 AM
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2. And on the site:
Talon News is committed to delivering accurate, unbiased news coverage to our readers. We do this through a nationwide staff of news reporters and interns who are dedicated to this objective.

riiiiiiight.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:49 AM
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3. file not found
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 12:51 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
i guess Robert R. Eberle is closing up shop... the gannon statement is the only link that works. Even the links to GOPUSA don't work

http://www.talonnews.com/cgi-bin/newsitem.pl?story=news/2005/february/0217_dems_prosperity.shtml
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:54 AM
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7. Well their main reason for existing, a cover to plant Gannon/Guckert into
the WH press corps, is over. Since they are unlikely to be able to get one of their other members (say, the high school kid at the link below) into the WH press corps now, the expense money from Rove will likely no longer be forthcoming.

(cache of old part of Talon site showing the "Talon Team")
http://tinyurl.com/4kefe
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:07 AM
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10. That chached page is hysterical!
LMAO! Those pictures are so funny.

I guess these peaople got the pink slip as well :nopity:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:57 AM
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9. This is a good clue
that something is going to happen soon. They're trying to hide and disappear. I wonder how their loyal viewers feel about it eh?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:30 AM
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14. Apparently much of the 'articles' and 'content' on Talon were
plagiarized... being a front, not too much effort was put into 'writing' there.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=112

They're probably collapsing the whole site now because any scrutinization of the site would reveal plagiarism in most articles and they can't be bothered to suddenly start actually writing.

Rove never graduated college so he's probably not of much help generating copy for the site.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:32 AM
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29. Some of their writers did write their own articles
There's one in particular, Jeremy Reynalds, that I have followed for over a year who wrote lots of stuff. About a third of his writing had to do with 'inside' information that he supposedly had regarding assorted terrorists. Reynalds and a few others were the primary source of terrorist 'noise' that triggered some of the alerts last year. So it's not just the plagiarizing that they are trying to hide. It is their secondary role has a 'noise' machine for the WH and Homeland Security that they don't want anyone to discover either.

BushCountry still has links to Reynalds articles if anyone cares to take a look at the crap this jackass likes to spew.

http://www.bushcountry.org/news/nav_view_links/c_jreynalds.htm
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:13 AM
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11. I am starting to get the feeling that the whole site will be gone very
soon.

It's no longer providing any useful service as a front for Gannon/Guckert, and the continued existence of the site, with the ability to scrutinize the hackwork that passes for "journalism" there, is a liability for shrubco and further evidence of their propagandization of America.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:50 AM
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4. *whistling*
:o
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:52 AM
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5. They are scrubbing all of them but it won't do any good.
You can still get the cache from google and yahoo. If they were so legitimate, why are they scrubbing their reports?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:52 AM
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6. Last "news" 2/17, their news is no news.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:56 AM
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8. The "read more" links now point to...
..."our #1 Client, GOPUSA"

HAHA, yeah, #1 Client.

KR: "Well Bobby, I guess with your boy out of my bedroom, we can close up his cover story."

BE: "But won't that look suspicious? It'll look as if we created TalonNews as a front to assuage Ari's lame concerns."

KR: "Don't worry, I'm working out a way to 'fix it' all now. I'll only need three or four dumb rubes to throw under the train. I've got a couple in mind."

BE: "But what about George? Has he figured it out yet? Won't he get jealous?"

KR: "Hell, you think Dubya would be where he is today if that dumb bitch knew how to weigh the evidence of the world around him and come to a logical conclusion? He's happier not knowing. He's never been good with rejection."
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:37 PM
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41. Are they giving in to the pressure or setting us up the bomb?
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:22 AM
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12. Here's their archived articles before they had a chance to delete them.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 01:26 AM by bling bling
If you're ever interested in reading Jeff Gannon's stuff or whatever else.

talonnews.com/

*edited to fix link*
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:25 AM
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13. Thanks.
Was some of 2003 all that was saved?
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:30 AM
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15. I can't get the link to work.
I thought I fixed it but it didn't work again. It worked fine for me when I pasted it to my browser but when I copied and pasted it in my post the link didn't work. I'll try it again.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/talonnews.com/*

At the bottom of the page you can navigate to other pages that have articles from 2004 too.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:34 AM
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17. Ok, I see the problem.
For some reason when I paste the link a space is added between the "b" after "web" and the slash mark. When you copy and past the link into your browser just remove the space between the b and the slash, that should fix the problem.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:37 AM
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20. Since the now defunct Talon News is no longer,
will your link continue to archive those articles?
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:38 AM
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21. Did "Jeff" actually attend a journalism school?
Jeff lives on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC and covers the White House for Talon News. He writes a syndicated column, "Jeff Gannon's Washington," that appears on his website: www.jeffgannon.com.

He is a frequent guest on talk radio appearing on nationally syndicated and local shows.

Jeff is a graduate of the Pennsylvania State University System and holds a Bachelor of Science in Education. He is also a graduate of the Leadership Institute Broadcast School of Journalism.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030728140446/www.talonnews.com/bios/jeffgannon.shtml

Was he ever military?

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:40 AM
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22. Leadership Institute thingy is a 2 day dirty tricks school from Blackwell.
It's not like, say, a degree from Columbia School of Journalism.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:36 AM
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18. I found this one from Gannon.
http://web.archive.org/web/20031207052304/http://www.talonnews.com/news/2003/august/0813_daschle_property_tax.shtml

Daschle Claims Questionable Tax Credit for DC Home
By Jeff Gannon
Talon News
August 13, 2003

WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- Sen. Tom Daschle's (D-SD) new Washington home has been giving the Senate minority leader headaches of late. Last week, Club for Growth, the Washington-based, anti-tax group, began airing ads in South Dakota that imply the senator's "very, very, very big house" purchased in April for $1.9 million betrays his down-home image.

Now another controversy surrounding the palatial French colonial on Washington's exclusive Foxhall Road has emerged. A Talon News search of DC property records revealed that Daschle is receiving the homestead tax credit.

The District of Columbia allows a $30,000 deduction against a property's tax assessment for the calculation of taxes. Even though every owner-occupied property is eligible for the tax credit, it was enacted to protect lower income homeowners from sharp increases in property taxes due to skyrocketing property values in Washington.

..........
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:41 AM
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23. Gannon loved destroying Daschle.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:42 AM
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24. How many thousands in unpaid taxes has "Jeff" incurred?
Also, it's expensive to live on Capitol Hill, as "Jeff's" bio indicates. Did GOPUSA advertise? How did it make money, enough to pay "Jeff's" salary, or was rent subsidized through prostitution?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:33 AM
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16. Among other things, they are looking at being busted for...
PLAGIARISM.

See here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3159978

Among other things this helps to show that they are a top-to-bottom criminal organization.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:46 AM
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26. HA HA!
You said "top" and "bottom" about Jeff Guckert's company!


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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:36 AM
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19. You can always find the articles in the Wayback Machine:
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 01:39 AM by BuyingThyme
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:37 AM
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32. thanks for the way back link
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:44 AM
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25. SNAP! These guys cut-and-pasted more than Kansas highschoolers!
Guess they're having to "retool" their plagiarized site! LOL.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:12 AM
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27. even better...
is listening to gannon have trouble speaking "big" words

http://www.talonnews.com/webcast/
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:23 AM
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28. I must say his voice doesn't match his studliness.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 02:41 AM by cat_girl25
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:23 AM
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30. GOPUSA uses this "news" service as well
http://www.cnsnews.com/corporate/staff.asp

anyone have any info. on it. It claims to have been around since 1998 and is linked to a conservative "media" think tank.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:27 AM
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31. I see Hannitiy's book is on the site (3 conservative books $1)--that is
how they get their sales up--looks good in NYTimes top 10 books list
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:39 AM
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33. Just did a search for Gannon on their site
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 08:41 AM by izzybeans
nothing. but the "historian" commenting on the 2000 election and Bill Clinton's pension plan was from Gannon University which is in Erie Pennslyvania. That was pretty much it.

But I did a goodle search for the author of these articles and discovered that this news service is sometimes called conservative news services. did it at some point go through a name change?

http://www.google.com/search?q=Justin+Torres+CNS&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2004-19,RNWE:en&start=10&sa=N

Most of this guy's articles seem to cherrypick "gay conspiracy incidents". He's an attack dog.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:59 AM
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34. Gannon worked for CNS news?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1128306/posts

snip

Jeff Gannon of CNS News stopped by to talk with the FReepers.


BufordP recognized Michael Fumento, author of The Myth of Heterosexual Aids and conservative columnist, who concentrates on scientific issues. Buford, who had read Fumento's book, talked with him for quite a while.

snip

then found this blog about CNS news that is informative on the news service-I haven't read anything else on it so don't hold me on the rest of the content.

http://democracyguy.typepad.com/democracy_guy_grassroots_/2005/02/another_fake_go.html

snip

Very interesting that Blackwell managed to buy the support of CNS News. (I say "buy" because I don't doubt for one second that money changed hands over this.) That alone tells you what kind of a corrupt governor he'd be if he were elected. I wonder if Petro and Montgomery are purchasing similar propaganda

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:56 PM
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37. Cybercast News Service is Brent Bozell
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 01:59 PM by starroute
See, for example:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/bios/lbb/welcome.asp (for the "official" version")

http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/brent_bozell.htm (for the real scoop)

He's been at the center of more kinds of right-wing trouble-making than you can imagine.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:57 PM
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38. CNS News is a division of
Media Research Center http://www.mrc.org/

On the front page of Media Research Center they state:
The Leader in Documenting, Exposing and Neutralizing Liberal Media Bias
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:28 PM
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39. i think one of the sleuths on the DU should go check it out.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 02:30 PM by izzybeans
I'm not very savvy with this sort of thing. I just stumbled ac crossed them while exploring GOPUSA (most of the "news" stories on there are direct from CNS news- so I then googled Gannon CNS and got the link to the free republic which had a post on it giving thanks to Gannon from "CNS news". I wondered if there had been some additional scrubbing that was overlooked. CNS news is also known as conservativenews network. The webpages are the same two different links. Try www.conservativenews.net and www.cnsnews.com see you what you get.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:36 PM
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40. Some more from the freeper thread
subject: freeping the white house correspondents
date: 5/2004

To: bvw
One other thing... Jeff Gannon (CNS News) came up to the bar/restaurant looking for us. He said he knew we wouldn't be a boring bunch to have dinner with. We all had a good time at dinner; and ran the poor waitress ragged with our dinner orders - we were hungry and very thirsty after FReeping.



To: alisasny; tgslTakoma; BillF; Jeff Gannon; All
Jeff Gannon writes for Talon News, not CNS.
He's a fine young man who has brought a much needed different perspective to the daily White House press briefings

posted by kristenn


Me: why did the people who hung out with him after the event think he worked for CNS and need correcting by a freeper?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:02 AM
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35. It's a failed attempt at the Drudge Report
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:08 AM
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36. I don't get it...
How does a "legitimate" news source disappear after losing one of their reporters? How is this not news?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:23 PM
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42. The link to GOPUSA still works and
The link to MND works too.. There they brag that all of jimmyjeffs articles are archived.. Looks like it working at the moment.

ATTENTION GANNON GAWKERS!
YOU WANT GANNON? WE'VE GOT GANNON
The MND archives contain all articles written by Jeff Gannon for Talon News, including Gannon's three-part interview with Ambassador Joe Wilson:
Search Gannon | Interview with Joe Wilson

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/
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