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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:41 PM Original message |
Labor Should Stop Wasting Money On Democrats Says Union Leader |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah.. give it to the Republicans.. GOOD strategy for the masochistic. n/t |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:45 PM Original message |
Masochist, hell... |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That's Not What He Wrote! |
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SheepBootHero (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. Please show where they suggest giving money to republicans |
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Zinfandel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
82. FUCKING clowns, you don't know shit!!! |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Until Democrats get back to supporting the working class |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. When organized labor can beat the right in elections again. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. right |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. That is just completely wrong. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. libruls schmibruls |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You are the one with foolish hopes of utopia. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Nah |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You are wrong on all counts. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. gloomy, moi? :D |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Post carbon society??? |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. One problem |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Crap |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Whatever |
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B0S0X87 (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Did you just call Cuba "relatively successful?" |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Yep |
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fat free goodness (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
90. So you now live...? |
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Stirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 02:23 AM Response to Reply #60 |
87. It *is* relatively successful. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
80. One reason the unions don't represent the working class anymore is |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 02:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
88. The DLC hasn't won anything worth having in nine Years! |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. Voters don't control the US working class votes anymore |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
65. How many union members voted Reagan, Bush? I heard, quite a few. |
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BillORightsMan (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. So much for solidarity! |
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RevolutionStartsNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Maybe not, but... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. its quite simple, candidates who vote labor over corps lose elections |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. RevolutionStartsNow, |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. If youve given up on the system, go start a revolution. |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. No thanks |
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RevolutionStartsNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. My handle |
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Stirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
85. You really believe that shit? |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Xactly - it is all about the grassroots |
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indianablue (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. I agree :) |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. What a staggering ignorance of history. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. That isn't the argument at all |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You should blame them. They are making a huge mistake. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I'm not into killing the messenger |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. And I agree with that part of the argument fully. |
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fat free goodness (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. "new deal" Not a very good argument. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. The system simply will not work like that. |
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fat free goodness (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
89. I think you missed my point. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Great idea. And after more states go Republican |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Perhaps Democratic Party Should Support Labor |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Its a circular problem, pointing fingers is stupid. |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
84. Traditional labor unions |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. You forgot about the Universal Healthcare sell-out |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. That is correct, labor needs its own political party and fast..... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. We dont have proportional representation, so that is an aweful idea. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. You just put your finger on what is totally wrong with the political |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Right, but theres only 2 ways to fix it. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Back and forth, back and forth, like a tennis match.... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Fine, raise an army and overthrow the government and setup a parlimetary |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. I agree. |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
63. check here: |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ummmm, this is accepting defeat. |
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glenhein (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. not too surprising |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Welcome to DU, glenhein! |
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glenhein (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. What's an RWer? |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Rightwingers. n/t |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. They were right, until we put Dean in charge. |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Even with Dean in charge |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Good point. - n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. I have to say.. |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. I think this is a MAJOR idea. I LOVE IT!!! SIGN ME UP!!!@#$!#$ |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
24. He makes good points. Organize workers rather than fund politicians. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Actually they need to do both. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
26. in a way, he's right |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Labor Movement Has Done Much More Than Just Give Money |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Union And Other Activists Feel Betrayed |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Had Kerry won with strong liberal support, the party would have |
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idlisambar (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
47. It's worth a shot |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
50. They should pour their money into election reform and the greens |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Ca You Really Blame Progressives For Being Discouraged? |
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dryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Sorry.... |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:30 AM Response to Reply #52 |
81. National Writers Union Is A Bona Fide Union |
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dryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Sorry.... |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:42 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. More Interesting Info On The National Writers Union |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
55. i couldn't agree more |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
57. Makes a lot of sense to me. He's talking about using the campaign... |
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FlemingsGhost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. Hmmmmm .... I wonder if the DLC even cares. (n/t) |
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DemocracyInaction (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
66. Perhaps I'm reading this differently than others |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
67. I find myself oddly in favor of his remedy |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
71. Labor is the heart of the Democratic Party |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
72. Yes! Organize! Organize! Organize! eom |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
74. Yet AGAIN, it smells like ELEPHANT dung in here. |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. smells like a freeper wedgie - n/t |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
75. About fucking time! n/t |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
86. He has some good points |
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