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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:54 PM
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Bush: no plans to attack Iraq, 5/02; no plans to attack Iran, 2/05
News Update from Citizens for Legitimate Government
February 23, 2005
http://www.legitgov.org/
http://legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news

Bush: Talk of US attack on Iran are "ridiculous"--Feb. 22, 2005 "US President (sic) George W. Bush on Tuesday forcefully dismissed the idea that Washington is planning to attack Iran to keep the government in Tehran from developing nuclear arms. 'This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous,' Bush told reporters after he met for 90 minutes at a summit meeting with the 25 European Union leaders. 'Having said that, all options are on the table .'" http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1109042628893

Bush, Schroeder Say No Concrete Plans to Attack Iraq--May 23, 2002 "President (sic) Bush says there are 'no war plans on my desk ' for dealing with the threat posed by Iraq and weapons of mass destruction, but that 'we've got to use all means at our disposal to deal with Saddam Hussein.' Speaking at a press availability with German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder in the garden of the Chancellery in Berlin May 23, Bush said, 'I appreciate the German Chancellor's understanding of the threats of weapons of mass destruction. And they're real.' 'I promise consultations with our close friend and ally. We will exert a unified diplomatic pressure. We will share intelligence,' the President added." http://www.usembassy.it/file2002_05/alia/a2052302.htm

Lori Price
http://www.legitgov.org/
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:56 PM
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1. We don't have the military wherewithal to attack Iran. n/t
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:28 PM
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7. We will if our troops "suddenly" are pulled out of Iraq and if
the draft is re-instated. We are headed for WW3 courtesy of GW Bush. What will be different this time is the "rest of the world" uniting to stop Bush.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:39 PM
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9. We have hundreds of thousands of troops stationed stateside,
in Japan, Korea, Europe, England. And the draft is basically a done deal, just waiting to be activated -- all the machinery is in place. If there was another 9/11, another Pearl Harbor for the PNAC, we could have huge numbers ready to go in six months, all led by battle-hardened veteran officers and NCOs.

It wouldn't take much.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:25 PM
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10. You can't put a rifle in every soldier's hand and send them off.
The largest part of any army play support and training roles; the army we have here, stateside, is needed here to re-equip and re-train (or train) the army we already have in Iraq and elsewhere. We simply DON'T have the troops available to start another 'shooting war'.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:46 AM
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26. That's the old military.
In the new military we have Bechtel and Halliburton to provide support and training. Every person in uniform now has his or her opportunity to get blown up for the fatherland, er, homeland. And as for new troops, what's a teenager if not an uninducted soldier?

As I said, six months and a major terrorist strike is all they need.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:39 PM
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19. Bush won't send troops. He is going to just bomb Iran, not invade. n/t
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glenhein Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:57 PM
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2. syria and iran are next!

Bush is aiming straight for syria and iran. Any chance the assination in lebanon was actually a CIA operation to stir
up civil unreset? Could that be a pretext to a US-led
"peace keeping force"?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:01 PM
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3. It's true, he's lied before and will lie again but
I don't think congress is going to bite that hook again. Even repugs are wincing at the debacle in Iraq and don't want another, even larger problem. Not to mention the already strained Military and budget issues.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:15 PM
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5. That's why they are crafting a double negative
iron clad "we are about to get bombed any minute" argument that no Senator or Congressman in their right mind would try and block, lest they get arrested for sedition.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:54 PM
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30. bush speaks with BOTH LIPS -- new toon
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:13 PM
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4. Okay, the dates are creepy.
Why does he make these statements while in Europe?
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ElaineinIN Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:18 PM
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6. Of course its ridiculous!
There are three countries ahead of Iran. I mean, really, people, what are you thinking:




From Wes clark's Winning Modern Wars, new paperback edition, page 130:

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia, and Sudan. So, I thought, this is what they mean when they talk about "draining the swamp."

Thanks to Jai in the Wes Clark Forum for looking this up for me.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:33 PM
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11. W doesn't "plan" or "prepare", he "intends".
Planning and preparing are for his staff to take care of. He shows no more interest in the details than he would if he were employing them to plan a weekend on the beach.

And of course W says, "the notion... ...is simply ridiculous." When has that ever stopped him from getting his way?
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:47 PM
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12. Someone had posted that a June invasion has been planned
I hope it isn't true, and that Bush and the Europeans can de-escalate things, but I'm not optimistic anymore.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:58 PM
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23. Yes, here is that link/summary
Scott Ritter Says U.S. Plans June Attack On Iran, 'Cooked' Jan. 30 Iraqi Election Results --by Mark Jensen (ufppc.org) 19 February 2005 (WA) "Scott Ritter, appearing with journalist Dahr Jamail yesterday in Washington State, dropped two shocking bombshells in a talk delivered to a packed house in Olympia’s Capitol Theater. The ex-Marine turned UNSCOM weapons inspector said that George W. Bush has 'signed off' on plans to bomb Iran in June 2005, and claimed the U.S. manipulated the results of the recent Jan. 30 elections in Iraq."

http://www.ufppc.org/content/view/2295/

Lori R. Price
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:27 AM
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28. Thank you; that was the one I was thinking of (nt)
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:03 PM
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13. Imagine being an average Iranian person right now.
I mean, I'm trying to picture how WE would feel if we thought a huge attack by a country much richer (for now) and bigger was imminent.

People would be acting about like everyone acted right after 9/11: there would be a damper on the usual frenzied shopping sprees, sales of autos would go down, no one would want to travel, people would even feel worried when their kids were away from home just long enough to go to school. There'd probably be blackouts, as they had in Britain and (I read) even in California (as drills), during WWII.

The skies would be watched anxiously every night.

And our "leader" is inflicting all this anxiety and pain on average citizens of Iran. And he is some great "Christian"???
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:44 PM
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14. In his defense
It's Feb 22 2005. I clearly see now that Bush had no plan to attack Iraq. Which is why his Iraq war has been such a disaster. A plan that's for the intellectuals.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:20 PM
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15. You got that right.
They had no plan then. They're going to stick with that next time.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:38 PM
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16. Ridiculous AND true, and the war plans were "in" or "next to" his desk.
"We will share intelligence"? bwhahahahaha
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:48 PM
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17. Maybe not
I cannot get into a freeper's mind, but with earthquakes happening in Iran, I don't think our military are interested in going there.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:26 PM
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18. Nice catch!!!
Send to Dr. Dean, please.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:02 AM
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24. One of the CLG readers sent it to me and I posted it on the site. :) n/t
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:23 PM
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20. They intend to bomb Iranian nookyaler sites
According to Sy Hersh's piece in the New Yorker a couple of weeks ago. What they think is--and this would be hilarious if it weren't so terrifying--that the Iranian people will rise up and overthrow the Moolahs if we take out a big chunk of their military infrastructure. These are the same geniuses who told us Iraq was up to its ears in WMD, and that US troops would be greeted as liberators if we invaded. There are several likely outcomes to air strikes on Iran (bloody terror attacks on Israel and the US, attacks on the Saudi and Kuwaiti oil fields, hundreds of thousands of Iranian soldiers sweeping into Iraq) but a popular uprising isn't one of them.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:32 PM
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21. Someone had posted an Iraq/Iran comparison flash. Link anyone?
nt
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:30 PM
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22. Bush** has NO plans on his desk. Get over it! This is true!
His plans are UNDER his desk in a big pile of personal sh**!
His plans are on Rumsfeld's desk!
His plans are in the same place Iraq's were kept!
His plans are in some undisclosed location...along with Cheney.
He doesn't use or need plans.
Tony Blair has them on his deck.
Silly...they're in his computer!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:55 AM
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27. "His plans are on Rumsfeld's desk!"
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slybacon9 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:04 AM
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25. SO, knowing what we know NOW
about what we didn't do THEN...

What do we do NOW

to make sure it doesn't happen AGAIN?






(Keeping in mind that we saw all the signs he was going to steal another election too... Personally, I would start by not entering any tall buildings...)


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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:38 PM
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29. But Wait! There's more!
Check out my article at

http://angrygirl.blogspirit.com/

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