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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:11 PM Original message |
I would like some insight from the Atheists of DU: |
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gWbush is Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. i don't think you can lump in all atheists together |
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agitpropagent9 (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. i agree with the above |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Thank you both for the |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
97. Right--Freud, Darwin, and probably a bit of Nietzsche |
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aePrime (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #97 |
106. I would also add David Hume to that list |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. I am an Agnostic.... |
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Goldmund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. What absolute do atheists believe in? |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. From what I understand... |
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Goldmund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. That's as much a belief as requesting a proof of a negative... |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
79. Agnostic here, too... |
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quisp (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. My dictionary* |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. I would amend the agnostic definition... |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. delete |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. What "absolute" do atheists supposedly believe in? |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Where is your proof......... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Proof of what? n/t |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Proof that god doesn't exist....... |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. atheism makes no such claim |
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Squeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. Disagree |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I'm arguing *FOR* theism? |
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Squeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Sorry |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. tis ok |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Prove that unicorns don't exist. |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. I gotta agree with you there... |
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Goldmund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. But ATHEISTS DON'T HAVE A CASE TO MAKE! |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. But you see, that's what we're trying to explain to you. |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. It would be nice if you guys jumped in and did some work.... |
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Goldmund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. LOL |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Proof that santa claus doesn't exist |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. I never got any Christmas presents.... |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
58. Please give me proof |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. you are mis-defining "atheism" |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. I can believe the earth is flat if I want.... |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I'm failing to see your point |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. No, it is something more. |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. it is the literal opposite of "theist" |
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omulcol (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
108. evidence or not ? |
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Goldmund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:21 PM Original message |
That's very good advice... |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Just let them know that, just as not everyone believes... |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. Have you been to our Group? |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. No I haven't.. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Don't mind at all! |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. I'm not an atheist |
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kaitykaity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. On agnosticism, check this out. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
94. "Freethinkers" is a fine book |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. Maybe "secular humanism" or "freethinking" is what you should research |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
81. Secular Humanism Seem The Correct Terminology, IMO or Naturalism |
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Jokinomx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I really don't like to categorize myself...but.. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm not .. |
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comradebillyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. as an athiest |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. Wish I had a link.... |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Yes please! |
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Palacsinta (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. Some atheists believe.............. |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. There is a WHOLE BOOK on this idea |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. Hamer seems to be into faith-based genetic research |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
96. Hmmm...Some atheists also believe that... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. It Would Be A Tricky Business, Ma'am |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Lets start here: |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. May I take a moment to say |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
62. Well put |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
27. I can only speak for myself when it comes to belief or lack of it |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
28. Atheism is NOT a "belief system" |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
32. Well of course |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
83. Do you find this presumption |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:55 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I have friends who are Buddist, Muslim, Hindus, Confucionists, and Jews |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. Douglas Adams, Richard Dawkins |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. Well put. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 08:41 AM Response to Reply #56 |
114. I do have a belief system |
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NeoGreen (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
36. Here is some background info I stumbled across... |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
43. Have them read Bertrand Russell. And... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
44. Agreed - as with any other 'creed' agnostics are on a scale. |
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Ufour20 (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
49. Atheist don't believe in forcing their opinions on others... |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Gotta agree with you there... |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
74. Not always, unfortunately |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
54. The thing about atheists is... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. A possible resource for you: |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
57. Here is a somewhat tangential comment on the subject, don't know who |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. You forgot |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
87. I don't know what I like best . . . |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 07:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. Heh, thanks. (Just got back from errands sorry to be so late) |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
59. Did you cover the Bahai Faith in your studies? |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. No |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 02:30 AM Response to Reply #67 |
107. What about pagans? |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
60. excellent article from another thread posted on DU today |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. I was just about to post this... here is an excerpt: |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
61. A very cool explanation of atheism and . . |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. very cool indeed. n/t |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. atheism (small "a") is the lack of belief in gods |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
65. I have met people that were astounded |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Thank you AZ |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Obviously, we need to organize... to further our "lack of an agenda" |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
73. I bet you are stoked at all the input the DU community can provide |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Yes I am! |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
75. Almost 1 billion Atheist/Secular/Agnostic/Nonreligious BTW |
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slutticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
76. Try this link. |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Good link... |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
77. I do find it to be the case. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
82. There is a 1997 Windsurfer article where Kerry discusses this very thing. |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Proud windsurfer here! |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
91. You are doing what I wish was done more often |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
92. My 2¢ -- I call myself atheist, but these are my beliefs. |
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omulcol (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 02:41 AM Response to Reply #92 |
109. Absolutely .... |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
98. Hmmm...difficulty answering |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
99. Agnostic is the closest category I would put myself in |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
100. Here's the insight I would offer. |
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AngryWhiteLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
101. As a scientist, I am forced by convention to be atheistic... |
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elderly man (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Approximately 50% of scientists believe in God |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Religion without science is blind. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 07:51 AM Response to Reply #103 |
112. It varies depending on your scientific subspecialty |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 07:55 AM Response to Reply #103 |
113. Link -- over 70% of NAS members are non-believers |
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AngryWhiteLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. And, all deists benefit from science...so what's your point. |
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omulcol (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 01:49 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. As a Plasterer I am forced to believe ... |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #105 |
116. You state: |
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Stirk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-23-05 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
102. I consider myself a spiritual atheist. |
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omulcol (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #102 |
119. A nice point Stirk .... one thing's for sure, |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
110. Among Wealthy Nations, U.S. Stands Alone in its Embrace of Religion |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
111. Monotheism evolved from ancient forms of sun worship |
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dolo amber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
115. You may want to include "apatheists" |
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