Biden won't sign the letter to investigate Ganon

[still_one]

Raw story has reported this:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=123

Ths is astonishing. He did the same thing with rice, slammed her, then voted to confirm her

I am sorry, but this is why I have given up on the democrats

Until we have a candidate who will stand up to the bullies, they will NOT get my vote OR SUPPORT

Waiting and watching on the sidelines now

[Zuni]

1. He publicly supported the investigation

last week on Bill maher

[still_one]

3. that is what is so strange

now he gives a lame excuse about not having time to read the letter

[villager]

8. did he use this excuse when the "Patriot" Act came up?

That he didn't have time to read it, etc.? No, didn't think so...

[silvermachine]

29. He's a publicity hound

...big on talking tough, waaaay short on the follow through. And that self-satisfied smile he gives after he feels he's made a clever or cogent point is just plain creepy.:scared:

[Bethany Rockafella]

2. So what was that crap he was saying on Bill Maher?

[still_one]

6. go to raw story and read the article

[GCP]

4. He didn't sign because he was in CA??? Never heard of a fax machine?

WTF :eyes:

[cyberpj]

5. Longer thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1262388

[Walt Starr]

7. Biden is talking out of both sides of his mouth

What an opportunistic bastard!

[happynewyear]

10. yep ...

Biden is nothing more than a superior political posturer extraordinaire IMO. I have no respect whatsoever for him.

A mere opportunist and nothing more.

Move along and Joe Biden - find another job PLEASE! :grr:

:kick:

[havocmom]

15. And he might consider a run for the Oval Office?!? HAH! Fat chance, Joe!

No! Sit! Stay!

[wryter2000]

9. Dang, Biden

Just when I think the spine transplant took.

[JNelson6563]

11. Outta Clintonista playbook

Article 4

Section 1: Whatever you do, don't do anything to upset the neo-cons.

[annabanana]

12. Biden contacts here:

Let's let him know that we're watching him:

DELAWARE OFFICES

Wilmington
1105 N. Market St.
Suite 2000
Wilmington, DE 19801-1233
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Milford
24 NW Front St.
Windsor Building, Suite 101
Milford, DE 19963
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

WASHINGTON, D.C. OFFICE

201 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510

Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
TDD: 202-224-5652

http://biden.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

[RBHam]

13. Biden is protecting the "office of the Presidency"...

He plans to be there one day, and the voting machines won't like it if he tarnishes the entire political establishment. Because Gannon leads to EVERYTHING ELSE -

and I wonder what the BFEE have on Mr. Biden?!

[porphyrian]

14. Biden is a fucking butt plug. Joe, you're fired. - n/t

[G_j]

16. Off Topic on Biden

just so ya know more about the dude..

He sponsored the "Rave Act" W/ Hatch as co-sponsor

:puke:

http://www.drugpolicy.org/drugbydrug/rave/

<snip>
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) forced the controversial legislation, widely referred to as the "RAVE" Act, through both houses of Congress as an attachment to an unrelated child abduction - AMBER Alert bill (S151). "RAVE" Act had not passed a single committee this year. In addition, it was so controversial when it was introduced during the 107th Congress that two Senators withdrew their sponsorship. The "RAVE" Act makes it easier for the federal government to prosecute innocent business owners for the drug offenses of their customers - even if they take steps to stop such activity.

The "RAVE" Act attached to the AMBER Alert legislation passed both the House and the Senate despite the fact there had been no public hearing, debate or vote in Congress this year. Due to overwhelming opposition to the "RAVE" Act, legislators were forced to remove some of the most egregious language before it passed. For example, the word "rave" was removed from this version of the bill. Also, the original bill suggested that prosecutors should view the sale of water and the presence of glow-sticks or massage oil as evidence of drug use. These preposterous "findings" were removed in large part due to activists who sent nearly 30,000 faxes to their Senators between January and April 2003, urging them not to support such dangerous legislation. The AMBER Alert bill with the "RAVE" Act attachment was signed into law by President Bush on April 30, 2003. Click here for a legislative history of the RAVE Act.

The Consequences
The Rave Act has the force to stop licensed and law-abiding business owners from hosting events out of fear of massive fines and prison sentences. It would amend the federal "crack house law" to make it easier for federal prosecutors to fine and imprison business owners that fail to stop drug offenses from occurring. Businessmen and women could be prosecuted even if they were not involved in drugs - and even if they took steps to stop drug use on their property. Although proponents of the bill are seeking to target raves (and DJs, nightclub owners, and rave promoters have the most to fear), the law would apply to any business owner, including bar owners, motel owners, concert promoters, and cruise ship owners. Because of its broad language, the proposed law would even potentially subject people to twenty years in federal prison if guests smoked marijuana at their party or barbecue.

The RAVE Act will also stifle musical expression and is a threat to free speech and the right to dance. It is clearly an assault on raves and electronic music. If the bill becomes law, property owners may be too afraid to rent or lease their property to groups holding all-night dance parties, rock or Hip-Hop concerts, hemp festivals or any other event rightly or wrongly perceived as attracting drug users.

<snip>

[ultraist]

24. I have lost all respect for Biden...

This is such BS. Why should a property owner be liable for SOMEONE ELSE'S behavior? Furthermore, it's it their job to to track people's behavior? Are property owners now also POLICE?

I can understand holding the property owner somewhat responsible IF they have been told by the POLICE that illegal activity is occuring on their property and then the owner fails to remedy it. But that's not what this law or the other "hunt down drug users" law states.

This is very misguided. Rather than "hunting down drug users" and punishing them, why don't they spend the money on interventive and educational programs and free drug rehabs?

Throwing them in jail is not going to do them or society any good.

The Drug War is Biden’s pet issue, one he pays close attention to. Senator Biden was one of the original drafters of the legislation that created the Office of National Drug Control Policy, an anti-drug office of the White House. In addition, Biden helped to craft the original crack-house statute designed to punish owners of properties on which drug offenses take place and co-sponsored legislation that created federal mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses. More recently Biden has focused on ecstasy and raves, most likely in response to media hype about the ‘dangerous’, ‘drug parties’ corrupting our nation’s young people. He may be reacting to win votes, to keep his constituents happy or because he truly fears for the lives of America’s youth. Most likely it is a combination of all these factors. Politicians are known to react viciously when faced with new ‘dangers’: in the 80s it was crack, in the 90s it was meth and now it is ecstasy.

[G_j]

26. if drug addiction is classified as a disease

why don't they send cancer patients to prison also?

[sui generis]

17. oh the hell with Biden anyway

Professional politicians sometimes start to view themselves as too politically vulnerable to move away from what they perceive is the political center. In my book that makes them useless politicians. If I wanted to vote for furniture I would have put a checkmark next to the sofa/loveseat instead of a democrat.

When will these idiots wake up and figure out they're not leading, and certainly they're not "representing".

[NV Whino]

20. Well said. n/t

[Spike from MN]

18. Maybe it's because he's on the list as one of Gannon's "clients."

Yeah, I don't suppose he would want something like that to get out. It wouldn't look good if he's letting a gay male boink him. Apparently he prefers to fellate everyone in the Bush administration instead.

[BuyingThyme]

19. I smell an intelligence link.

Fuck you, Biden!

[julialnyc]

21. my same thoughts

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. He probably got promised some "face" time on CNN.

Biden will do anything to get his mug on camera. He's the Jerry Lewis of the Democratic party.

[spanone]

23. Guess Biden was just pandering to that liberal Bill Maher audience?

Fuck head. Once a politician always a politician.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

25. This is the part that really makes me mad!

He said he "felt that no investigation would take place anyway since Republicans control both Houses of Congress."

That's the way to give the people hope in the system, Biden! Give lip service to an investigation and then blow it off as useless. You are the weakest link, good bye!

[G_j]

27. Biden was involved in the Iran/Contra whitewash also

I remember watching him lob soft balls at Ollie North and others.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

28. I remember that, too.

It goes to show a leopard can't change its spots.

[IndianaGreen]

30. Maybe Biden was one of Gannon's clients

Don't forget that Biden is a PPI/PNACer neolob.

[Vinca]

31. Part of the problem is he's been in office so long he takes it for granted

that he'll be elected again and doesn't need to bother to represent the people because they vote for him anyway. Which is true. It's time NOT to vote for these people.