A Charming Schwarzenegger quote....

[Betty]

In a profile of Arnold Schwarzenegger that appeared in U.S. News in November 1990, the Terminator elaborated on his nascent political views: "My relationship to power and authority is that I'm all for it. People need somebody to watch over them," he explained. "Ninety-five percent of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave."

... I found this on buzzflash.

[Democat]

1. Moveon should run that in newspapers all over California

That's not from the 70's. Let the advertising begin!

[newsguyatl]

2. he's a real gem ain't he?

i'm seeing more and more everyday why he's a republican...

he's rich, he's racist, he's ignorant, and now it turns out, he's a fascist, too...

[Maple]

3. It always amazes me

when people say things like that, that they always assume that somehow they will be the ones giving orders, that 5%.....not the 95% having to take them.

[TahitiNut]

6. No, they don't.

They assume they'll not only be giving orders but taking them too. They just think it's a good deal -- like pledging. Authoritariansim is one of the most pervasive dysfunctions in out coutnry, IMHO. Count the number of times people on DU yearn for a 'leader' rather than a representative. Look at the people who, when they lose their corporate job, feel aimless and purposeless. Look at our factory-method school systems. Look at the number of people wearing uniforms of all kinds. Look at our continuing fascination with Kings, Princes, Dukes, Barons, etc. -- a wistful look at monarchies -- in so many games, plays, and pop culture. It's a sickness.

"Challenge authority"?? For the vast majority (over 80%) that's just not "realistic".

[Maple]

11. Point taken....reluctantly

I just always assumed a dictatorship would suck unless you got to be the dictator rather than the 'dictated to'.

But since there's only one allowed at a time, I wondered why the heck anyone else would want a dictatorship.

However, after reading your post...I gotta agree with you.

Sigh. Doesn't say much for our level of advancement does it.

[maggrwaggr]

12. It's the Guardian (SJ) temperment

Seriously, 38% of the population feel like they want an authority figure above them in a heirarchy telling them what to do.

And if they don't have it, and if they're not in a quantifiable place in a hieararchy (man that's hard to spell) they can actually go a little nuts.

So Arnold saw himself as the savior of the guardians. What an asshole. "Don't vorry. I vill lead you"

[TahitiNut]

14. Well, Keirsey doesn't much sort on authortarian propensities.

The 'Guardian' temperament might seem like a match, but I'd say it somewhat distills an autocratic temperament rather than an authoritarian one. We probably need to remember that authoritarianism is the (possibly specialized) follower/leader presumption (looking for a father/coach figure) while the autocratic is the boss-of-all (hand of God) viewpoint. The former is far more prevalent in a 'meritocracy' among all levels of presumably attainable 'leadership' (like the military, E5 through O9) while the latter accommodates little churn. Authoritarians populate all levels of a hierarchical social 'order' to varying degrees while autocrats tend to view themselves 'divinely' at the top of some social subculture, where they self-servingly amplify the segregation of that subculture. (Think Jim Jones.)

So, it seems to me that authoritarinism pervades (to differing degrees) much of Kiersey's types. Consider also the "Rationals". There is a 'divine' theme in assuming that intellectual ability is an innate talent -- either you got it or you don't -- God-given. Where there's a worldview that the more intelligent are deemed more qualified to have authority over others, it borders on autocratic but is clearly a form of authoritarianism. Thatcher, Eisenhower, Gates, Catherine II, Disney, and Ayn Rand were all regarded as "Rationals" -- a subset of which are nominally "The Fieldmarshals".

As a bimodal ENxp (ENFP/ENTP, only slightly more P than J; 80-20 E-I, 90-10 N-S, 50-50 T-F, 50-40 P-J), I have a (at one time heavier) dose of this myself.


Note: For those lost in the above "Keirsey-speak" (or Myers-Briggs) see http://keirsey.com/

[Hubert Flottz]

13. We don't have a leader!

We have a Mis-Leader! Arenoid wants to be Der Unter Fuherer!

[Mz Pip]

4. This quote was

discuss this morning on SF talk radio program. Amazingly there were people who called in who agreed with it.

MzPip
:dem:

[Solomon]

5. Arnold's getting a free ride

by the media.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

7. Interesting...

I just had my roommate say "It's called America" when I mentioned that Arnold was getting that free ride by the media.
Plus, I was angry about the FCC classification of Howard Stern's show as "news".
She's a clueless twit.

[Dr Fate]

8. Like father, like son.

...

[E_Zapata]

9. Action Item: Oprah is having Arnie and Maria on her show on Monday

Let Oprah know what you think about that.

www.oprah.com There's a link for sending an email on that front page.

[LeftistGorilla]

10. I'm sure...

Adolf would agree...