"Hey hey ho ho, Social Security has got to go!"

[Cocoa]

actual College Republican chant, at Rick Santorum's Town Hall event, as shown by CNN.

Someone on our side has got to use that in an ad, to show the actual republican agenda.

[Canuckistanian]

1. Every now and then, the mask slips

And you see the real face of wingnutism.

[bpilgrim]

14. -----------------------------------------------------------> MP3

http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/aar/mr/heyHey-hoHo-ss.mp3

eye witness account from one of our young players who got the whole thing started :evilgrin:
http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/aar/mr/hhhh-ss-long.mp3

http://news.globalfreepress.com

psst... pass the word ;->

peace

source Majority Report on AAR :toast:

[genieroze]

36. Just sent a link to all the senior newsgroups, hehehe. eom

[bpilgrim]

43. excellent! n/t

peace

[AuntiBush]

65. Slipping faster by the minute!

It's all coming out of their wash faster then their speeding bullets!

[ewagner]

2. Glad you picked up on that

I think that sound should be archived and put into a RADIO AD telling Americans and especially Senior Citizens exactly what Republicans mean when they talk about "private" accounts.....it's Bushco "newspeak" and the sooner America hears it the better.

[Higans]

40. Bushe's Plan for SSI is simple

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm

"Because the — all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those — changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be — or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the — like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate — the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those — if that growth is affected, it will help on the red." —George W. Bush, explaining his plan to save Social Security, Tampa, Fla., Feb. 4, 2005

"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

[blm]

3. I was just going to post that exact same thought.

The College Republicans WERE representing what the GOP majority believes about SS. They just use weasel words to pretend they don't.

I will donate to WHATEVER group runs that in an ad. I hope Dean catches it and the DNC starts slamming back at these horrific, inhuman beings.

[demwing]

6. Lets not hope!

Lets make the call.

Here's a link to the DNC Media Alert Page:

http://www.democrats.org/media/index.html

And the contact info:

Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

202-863-8000

[eleny]

4. What a pack of beanbags

Nice generation war they've started.

[patrice]

5. They have demonstrated that they may KILL by CHOICE, so

what's anyone's life worth . . . . ?

That is . . . except for those who make such choices, whom you may not assume it's okay for these "leaders", who choose death for others, for the "leaders" to die, because if you did, you could be arrested for "treason", even though they may decide that YOU are expendable . . . . which you will be if you let them lead you.

...............

Hare Krsna! Hare Rama!

[EVDebs]

7. I've recommended this for the greatest page. I heard this the other

night and couldn't believe my ears. Obviously these are not economics majors ! Supply side of b.s. is creating its own demand in that case.

[Democrats_win]

8. Hey hey woe woe bushco blows all our dough!!!

Skull and bones
Skull and bones
bush’s SS moans
For Mr. Dow Jones

Stray stray
To and frow
bush's way
Just more blow

Hey Hey retiring generation
old and gray, pay attention
Bush will take your pension
And give you condescension

[freestyle]

9. Work, consume, or die. That is their plan for the rest of us.

Don't these people have grandparents? I am blessed to have my mother's parents still with us and they can afford to be well cared for at home (well, my mother's home) due to my grandmother's very good pension from being a teacher and both of their Social Security checks. The republicans want to destroy decent pensions and Social Security and don't think the Medicaid that supports most people in nursing homes is not in their sights either. Once your economic utility has declined, the republicans want you dead.

[EVDebs]

12. freestyle, I'm a caregiver too. Hang in there...we need Dems in '06

to hopefully retake seats in Congress.

[K-W]

15. actually theyd prefer it if alot of us didnt work

so there was desperate competition for jobs and they could pay use pennies to employ our children.

[Sugarbleus]

31. GENOCIDE by proxy.........

This reminds me of that old movie: SOLENT GREEN--Edward G. Robinson, C. Heston.

Person's reached a certain age then were FORCED to go into the "Chamber" for termination while they showed beautiful scenes of nature/life and music (you could pick the scenery) as you "slipped away" into death.

(later in the movie, we discovered that the food/manna crap being served to the remainder of citizens were the bodies of the dead "PEEEOPPPLLLLLLEEEEE")

[Hardrada]

38. Basic Lessons Learned in Contemporary USA:

DON'T GET SICK.
DON'T GET OLD.

Applies to 97% of the population.

[Sparkly]

10. Never thought I'd see the day.

:cry:

[elehhhhna]

11. hey hey ho ho grandpa seems to like Alpo.

[Sparkly]

29. ho ho hey hey, who needs old folks anyway

[elehhhhna]

49. Ho hey, hey ho, 'Ho' is Guecket's nickname, yo!

[elehhhhna]

50. Now that there's no death tax, wouldja hurry up and croak already?

Say, before WE the People take it back and overturn GW's disastrous tax "plan".

Just sayin'.

[Cleita]

13. If they only knew how frightening this whole SS thing is

to old people, I'd like to think even they aren't mean enough to wish it. :cry:

Now I was informed by one of my doctors that they may not except my Medicare co-insurance. I went through this hell before with the Medicare HMO my husband had signed up with. Now that I thought I they were getting enough money, I guess they aren't.

[Sugarbleus]

33. I worry about the same thing Cleita...

Social Security on one hand, Medicare/Medicaid on another hand, then HOUSING for the seniors, disabled, low income for the final coup d'grace

I wrote to my reps and phoned the budget offices yesterday and today, faxed one individual. Among other things, I asked them HOW DO THEY EXPECT PEOPLE TO SLEEP SOUNDLY AT NIGHT with all this insecurity hanging over their heads!!!!!!!!!??????????

IT'S DOMESTIC TERRORISM!

[ailsagirl]

16. I"m sure many of you got this email from moveon.org...

Dear MoveOn member,

We couldn't believe our ears when we heard a group of Republicans chanting, "Hey, hey. Ho, ho. Social Security has got to go" on CNN last night. But that is what they did, outside Senator Rick Santorum's Social Security town hall meeting in Philadelphia.

In the meeting, Santorum, the leading supporter of privatization in the Senate, declared that "it is time for a Republican solution to Social Security." But the Republicans gathered outside were more clear about where that plan ultimately leads. For Bush's conservative base, privatization of Social Security is just the first step toward getting rid of the program entirely.

These chants provide a good hook to get letters to the editor printed in your local paper, and the timing couldn't be more perfect -- Members of Congress are home this week, and will be scanning their local editorial pages. Can you take 5 minutes to write a letter to the editor on the Republican social security scam? You can find your local paper, submit a letter online, and even check out video footage of the chants at:

http://www.moveon.org/lte/lte.html?lte_campaign_id=17&zip=94903&id=5123-5232549-y_KN4pnCeiYCmKyG8tGnXQ

[Name removed]

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[ailsagirl]

18. Is SS... good???

[Kathy in Cambridge]

19. Bye

:hi:

[PsN2Wind]

20. I see your point

if you're a Packer fan, you'll probably slit your wrists well before the age of 59.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

21. So, you would take money away from those with disabilities

you would take money away from the elderly poor.

Most people live paycheck to paycheck and have nothing left to invest after paying their bills.

SS is their lifejacket.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

22. Umm... it prevents many people from being destitute and homeless in their

old age?

[buddysmellgood]

30. Yes, but is that REALLY what we want? Let's be fair. Don't we, who

manage to work the system, want to be able to gloat when we are old and infirm? Shouldn't those of us who made it big in the system be able to look down on those low-wage fools? We who make gazillions spreading lies on FOX or selling useless crap to the masses should be able to shake our fingers at those who risked their lives patching highways or roofing or making sure the forms were mailed. We should be able to laugh at the fools who made sure that the rest of us had our latte just so, or kept our streets clean or sewers working. They made the wrong choice. If they chose to work in a job that did not pay for every user that benefited from their risk. FUCK THEM.
Isn't that what all we good christians want in the twighlight of our lives?

[Sugarbleus]

35. I love you Buddy!!

Couldn't have made the case better myself. :loveya: :hug:



"How would you like your latte Sen. Santorum? In a cup or down your pants?"

[buddysmellgood]

62. Ha! Lol.

[SmokingJacket]

47. WELL SAID!!!!! nt

[zann725]

39. Or Disabled people from being homeless, and unable to afford medication.

The waiting time for most Disabled people to get on SSDI now is approximately 2 years! Can you imagine being sick, not able to work, and having to wait 2 or more years to begin receiving your LTD pay? And most Disabled people have to hire an attorney to GET those benefits. The general rule of thumb with SSDI is: Unless you are hospitalized, your claim will automatically be declined the first go-round; and without an attorney, you will most likely lose your first Appeal; and once you lose your first Appeal, your second and final Appeal will only be a "paper" review by a panel of people you'll never even see, and can't see you (or your actual condition).

It's appalling that something you pay into your whole life is NOT available to you when you get sick and need it. No wonder so many homeless people are wheelchair bound, or missing limbs. These are among those people who could not sustain a roof over their head while they waiting for SSDI to kick in...and fell through the cracks.

As a Democratic society, we NEED Social Security Disability so that geniunely Disabled people, who are unable to work, are provided with living expenses in the form of an SSDI check.

[scarletlib]

45. well here is another little factoid on this:

after you finally get the disability you have to be on it for 2 years before your medicare kicks in. Can you believe that? You get the SSA because of a disabilty which must be expected to last more than 12 months and/or result in death and you have to wait 2 years to get your medicare.

[Sugarbleus]

63. Um, I got my medicare in a few months...and

I didn't even want it. They INSISTED I had to take it. I'm what is endearingly called "very low income". I get medicaid and medicare both. I had to PAY for my medicare for six months...then the medicaid kicked in and repaid me.

However, God only knows what the next surprise with medical will be in the coming months!

With the Bushenator at the helm, the state of social programs/american society is such a cluster***k!!! These rethuglicans have really stirred up an ants nest this time. I can't express how much I despise them.

[Wind Dancer]

24. I sure hope you are healthy GBPacker.

Provide facts for the claims you make.

[drhilarius]

26. How very christian of you!

Don't get yours, so fuck it, right? I wasn't being sarcastic- you are the epitome of the American neo-christian.

[Sparkly]

27. Oh my God!!

You've never heard of survivors getting Social Security? How about the people who live past 59 and rely on it? Have you never heard of stay at home Moms who do not have their own retirement benefits, or working people who don't have pensions or IRAs, contrary to your claim that all spouses "most likely would have his or her own retirement benefits?"

What do you think of the idea of borrowing all that money, reducing benefits, increasing debt, raising taxes to pay interest which buys NOthing, all to enrich BushCo? What do you think of a person who sells people on this program with misleading claims and outright lies, turning the young against the middle-aged and elderly?

[rman]

37. Dear GOPBacker,

SS is not, as you frame it, "a system that takes money from people to give to other people who happen to be lucky enough to survive until 65".

It is a system where people pay their due to society, each to their own ability, where that ability is in part the result of being a member of society. Kindof like taxes.
Also "surviving" until 65 isn't a matter of "luck" - in the industrialized world the average old age is some 75 to 80 years, though the US is trailing behind because of the disasters of medicare, environmental pollution and minimum wage.

But it's interesting nonetheless that republicans are now revealing what the SS thing is all about for them; in their mind SS is just anti selfish-capitalism, and crisis or no crisis "it has got to go".

[LaPera]

23. We got to fight this with all we've got...get involved.

[Cleita]

25. I put this up and I thought it was a good point but...

I guess it's gonna take a lot of convincing even among liberals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3174189&mesg_id=3174189

[Sugarbleus]

28. I got this in my email from Moveon.... thanks for posting it.

My question is: Were the "chanters" PAID shills?

Saints Alive! I HATE these people! :grr:

[SmokingJacket]

48. I would bet on it. Those people don't do anything unless they're

paid.

[porkrind]

32. hey hey, ho ho, college republicans should enlist and go

to iraq/afghanistan/iran/syria, or wherever else their pResident asks them to fight and die in the current corporate client-state war. These fucking brown-shirts don't realize that life may not be good to them in the future, and some of them might need S.S. Also, they don't have the moral and ethical maturity to understand their responsibilities to the less-fortunate members of society. Brownshirt assholes.

[BuyingThyme]

34. What ever D candidate runs against Santorum MUST use that in commercials.

We live in Crazy World.

[VOX]

41. The GOP: "Doing What We Do Best--Undoing the Advances of the 20th Century"

Especially all the good things from Roosevelt's New Deal.

How **DUMB** can Repugs get? (I'm afraid to find out!) :grr:

[cap]

42. pennachio is running against santorum and wants volunteers to create ads

This is our chance to do it, guys! He will pay for your ad to be run as a BlogAd.

http://www.chuck2006.com/

[IronLionZion]

51. Chuck seems like a good guy

He can beat Santorum, all we have to do is support him. This should be an interesting election.

But if we want to destroy Santorum so bad that he cries for his mommy, then Casey is our man.

[mandyky]

44. The Democratic blogosphere is making an ad

and have bought ad space online.

[argyl]

46. "Hey Hey Ho Ho,ANWR oil is going to flow" I heard this right after the

2004 elections. These people are really shallow pigs. This is a game to them; the social programs they gut and the wilderness areas they ruin are their way of keeping score.

[RoeBear]

52. FWIW

College Republicans chanting that slogan has no direct correlation to what the Republican agenda is.

[Cocoa]

54. it exposes the the true republican philosophy

their "save social security" rhetoric is double-speak.

[RoeBear]

55. It exposes the true philosphy

of those chanting it, nothing more.

[Cocoa]

58. It's a matter of what you believe

do you believe the republicans proposing reforms actually want to "save" social security? I don't.

There are people who believe this (do you?) and seeing these republicans chanting could help them see the truth.

[RoeBear]

59. I have no problem with the footage

being used in advertising. I just am pointing out that college Republicans chanting a slogan doesn't mean that is what the Republican party believes.

If a group of Young Democrats chant "Pull out of Iraq now!" does that mean the Democratic party thinks that would be a good thing to do?

[ieoeja]

61. What if GOPAC says it?

GOPAC sets much of the agenda each year for the Republican Party. And they were on C-SPAN talking about privatization being the first step in the eventual elimination of social security.

I assume it is illegal to use C-SPAN coverage in political advertising. Because I have seen semi-private gatherings of Republicans broadcast on C-SPAN before in which they spoke in blunt terms they wouldn't want the American public to hear, e.g. "Americans are just too stupid to understand what we're talking about".

[IronLionZion]

53. Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Rick Santorum is a stupid spoiled ho!!!

and he just has to go. There's no compromise or two-ways about it. He's worse than Bush. Let's send him home to Virginia where he belongs.

[ComerPerro]

56. Somebody tell those college Rethugs to get their asses to Iraq

[PROGRESSIVE1]

57. argh

[CitySky]

60. were they carrying signs?

"Who Cares About OLD PEOPLE Anyway?"

"Starve the Seniors!"

"When I'm Finished Working, Shoot Me!"

:eyes:

[AuntiBush]

64. I read that transcript!

They're TRUE colors are SHINING through now. They are their own worse enemies!