He's maced after asking cops to help dying dog

[genieroze]

He's maced after asking cops to help dying dog

BY ALISON GENDAR and CELESTE KATZ
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Jaime Johnson alleges harsh conduct by cops while he was trying to help Suki.
A Brooklyn man was pepper-sprayed when he brought his dying dog to his local police precinct, it was revealed yesterday.

Jaime Johnson, 30, a maintenance worker from Bedford-Stuyvesant, claims he was unfairly treated by cops.

But police sources said officers acted properly to subdue what they described as a drunken man having a violent fit.

Johnson said he ran to the 88th Precinct stationhouse Saturday morning after his family's Shih Tzu puppy, Suki, was hit by a car.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/284071p-243283c.html

[ashmanonar]

1. WTF!!!!

he got maced for trying to get them to HELP HIS DOG?

wtf are those police smoking?

"officer, i just got mugged in the alley! *spray* AUGH, my eyes!"

jesus. can we say fucked up police??

[LynnTheDem]

4. Just wait till the cops get hold of electro-magnetic microwave weapons!!!

WHOOOOBOY won't they have fun then!

Or how about them laserbeams, guaranteed to permanently blind!

What an exciting time to be a cop!!!

grrrrrrrrrrrr.

[ashmanonar]

14. well, they didn't tase him at least.

i've heard some bad news stories on here about cops getting taser happy.

[coloradodem2005]

2. Maybe the guy was sad and a little stressed.

[Padraig18]

3. He's hardly the first violent drunk to get pepper-sprayed.

:shrug:

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[Padraig18]

7. No, I just read the story.

The cops say he was, and he doesn't exactly deny it.

"...But police sources said officers acted properly to subdue what they described as a drunken man having a violent fit...."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/284071p-243283c.html

:eyes:

[Patchuli]

8. Read the story again

It says he did deny being drunk. There's no excuse for the cops'
behavior. Poor man and poor Suki. Not all cops are good guys...I had
the misfortune to grow up in the area of Los Angeles that has the
division of police that damn near beat Rodney King to death. I know
about bad cops and they are out there.

[Padraig18]

9. I'm married to a former cop.

They didn't pepper spray this guy for shits and giggles. He did SOMETHING, and you can take that to the bank.

:eyes:

[Worst Username Ever]

11. I'm inclined to agree with you.

As a former correctional officer and police employee, you don't mace people cuz it's fun. At the VERY least, it is a mountain of paperwork. This guy was out of control if he had multiple police officers trying to take him down.


Now get back to the lounge.

[China_cat]

38. Really? You don't use mace for fun?

I lost a snake once and had the cop who found it mace it because he wanted to see what would happen.

And it isn't too long ago that I saw the video tape of cops FORCING a 16 year old girl's eyes open to spray her. All she was doing was sitting there and refusing to move. One cop held her, the other forced her eyes (one at a time) open and sprayed her. Hilarity could be heard all around.

[MadHound]

13. I agree, most cops are decent people

But there is an increasing subset of police that are brutal, sadistic, and quick on the trigger so to speak. There have been numerous instances of unwarranted police brutality nationwide. Why would you have a problem believing that this happened as the victim described?

An by the by, my cousin is a police officer, and even he admits that there are some bad apples on the force.

[Worst Username Ever]

15. Of course there are bad apples

But it appears to have taken multiple police officers to take this guy down for the disturbace he was apparently causing. That is not the sign of someone who was calmly asking for help.

If some guy came running up to me with a dead dog, screaming that I have to call an ambulance for the DOG, I would at the very least take a few steps away from the guy.

[MadHound]

19. Sure, take a few steps away

But there is a huge difference between somebody carrying on in grief and dispair, and somebody who is simply a babbling maniac. I've listened to both, and there is a huge difference.

Sorry friend, but if my dog had just been hit and was dying in my arms, I would be upset and agitated also, I think most people would, to one extent or another.

Sorry, but I hope this guy takes this to court. Most police stations have a camera up front, and that should tell the tale. If it went down as the victim says it did, then Brooklyn is once again going to be making a huuuge payout, all due to the incompetency of its cops.

[Patchuli]

37. Being an animal lover,

I think I would have been concerned for the animal and the guy
whose heart was breaking that his pup was dying. The whole scene
sounded pretty heartless.

[genieroze]

43. The problem is that good cops shut up about the bad ones, same thing

with doctors, lawyers, teachers etc... If bad cops were made accountable for their actions there would only be good cops, doctors, lawyers, teachers etc...

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[Richard Steele]

31. Thank You for playing also!

No hard feelings.

Say "Hi" to your beloved FORMER Cop for me!

:grouphug: :D :D :D

[Patchuli]

35. And cops are humans

who also make mistakes. Sometimes, really bad mistakes, just like
other people. How dangerous could this guy have appeared holding
his dying puppy?

This isn't a rag on cops but they are definitely not infallible.

[DELUSIONAL]

39. I doubt it -- YOU have never had your dog hit by a car

and in cases like this -- the god DU created the great beyond called ignore.

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[Padraig18]

12. I did read it, and he does NOT deny it.

Show me the quote where he denies it! I'm neither illiterate, nor do I read with a lack of comprehension.

[Padraig18]

16. *crickets*

[Bonobo]

21. Ooops. You're wrong. Your reading comprehension needs retesting.

Quote:

"Within three minutes of there, I was blinded for the rest of the day," said Johnson, who denied he was drunk.

[Padraig18]

23. Mea culpa.

:shrug:

[Bonobo]

26. That means "I'm sorry", so why don't you say it in English?

[Padraig18]

30. Because I didn't fucking want to.

What the fuck business is it of yours?

[Bonobo]

32. Your apology is as sincere as a $3 bill, that's why.

Also you were wrong. There. Should I add "naughty words", like you ato accentuate my point?

[Padraig18]

33. Excuse the fuck outa me.

I'm so ashamed.

:eyes:

[Richard Steele]

34. Yer so TOUCHY, you must be RIGHT! ROFL and Goodbye!

[Padraig18]

36. Later. n/t

[Richard Steele]

25. 7th paragraph in the link

"...said Johnson, WHO DENIED HE WAS DRUNK."

What part of that sentence did you have the most trouble comprehending?

[Padraig18]

27. What part of this sentence did you have trouble comprehending?

"...But police sources said officers acted properly to subdue what they described as a drunken man having a violent fit...."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/284071p-243283c....

Thanks for playing, dick.

[MadHound]

5. This is just so wrong

And to add insult to injury, sanatation workers scooped up the poor dog's body and dumped it in the landfill, without telling this guy.

More and more, police officers are forgetting that they are public servants. Instead, they act like they are the guards at an outdoor prison.

[gulfcoastliberal]

18. Why did he not go to the vet?

WTF did he think the cops would do, give his shitzu CPR? Give me a break, he had to have been drunk to think a police station is the place to take your injured dog. That's the friggin last place in the world I would go if my dog was hit by a car. Maybe he was watching too much Animal Precinct, but even on the show the cops take sick/injured animals straight to the vet, not their department.

[MadHound]

22. Get in the cop car with the dog

Have the police hit the lights and siren, and get your dying dog to the vet as quickly as possible. I've seen it happen a couple of times when I worked as a vet assistant, but that is in a town where police considered themselves to be public servants, not wardens at an outdoor prison.

[slor]

24. Before you go spouting off about "bad cops"...

and blaming them first, please let cooler heads prevail. Maybe the cops thought he was a child, and they could not draw their tasers in time.

[Misunderestimator]

29. LOL

[Misunderestimator]

28. It's like an epidemic... I'd rather they use their guns... at least they

seem to wait for a better reason to use them.

The guy was probably distraught over his dog, I would be... and maybe he had a couple of beers, and maybe the cops harrassed him... who knows... not enough info here, but the blinding with pepper spray business is getting a little old now.

[Cuban_Liberal]

40. Why do people automaticaly assume the cops were in the wrong?

Speaking as a former deputy, I'd wager a whole BIG bunch of money that this guy was drunk and acting like a complete jerk.

[slaveplanet]

41. FORCE CONTINUUM

Makes us ALL slaves on the global plantation....Police routinely jump steps in force continuum when they sense the slave does not assert his rights early enough in the altercation....

http://www.jusbelli.com/use_of_force.html

USE OF FORCE CONTINUUM
This Use of Force Continuum is from the Alaska State Troopers
The court case is just one of many
to demonstrate what I proffer is true.

What people are not understanding is that the police, firemen, FBI, ect are all members of a paramilitary organization(s) They have been militarized and not not civil officers to which they appear to want us to believe they are. Ask them? I have the commissioning documents on the AST, but this is not included as yahoo will not pass all of the info in one post. If wanted, e-mail and I will forward.

They use the Use of Force Continuum against us. All Police Force types will have a policy and procedures manual, which will have a Use of Force Continuum contained within. You may have to lean on them to produce the Use of Force Continuum parts, as they don't want the public to know who they are and what they are doing.

FROM Alaska State Troopers Use of Force Continuum parts:

1. First read the 107.101 intent of the disclaimer as evidence.
2. 107.020 (A)

(1) the purpose of the use of the force is to gain control of a person, ect.
3. 107.020 (B), when practical, a verbal warning should be used before force is being used.
4. 107.020 (C)(1) Can't use force as punishment or retaliation.
5. 107.020 (C)(2) Accomplish the officers "lawful" objectives, etc including physical control.
6. 107.020 (C)(3) can use any level of force
7. 107.020 (C)(4) The Use of Force Continuum
a. Officer presence, uniform
b. Verbal Commands
c. Soft hand techniques - grabbing you and a heel hand hit.
d. OC - pepper spray
e. Batons
f. TAZARS
g. Deadly force
8. 107.030 A use of Force Form just be filled out. Ask for it!



So what is happening when a police officer walks up to your car window with his traffic lights flashing or walks up to you in the street.

First he is ALWAYS USING FORCE against you to gain control of YOU and to conduct an custodial interrogation and he is instilling FEAR!
Should you not be in FEAR of your LIFE knowing of the Use of Force Continuum that the OFFICER is using, is trained to use, and will not stop until YOU SUBMIT while he is carrying weapons of deadly force, OC, and TZAR's to use at his discretion as long as he justifies said use to HIS leaders and the DA?

[Cuban_Liberal]

42. If you comply with his lawful demands, you have no reason to be in fear

Of COURSE we have to resort to force, sometimes.

:wtf:

[karlrschneider]

44. I worked my way through college as a cop (early 1960s in Tulsa) and

knew several who were pretty sadistic. One big burly asshole named Ray Burch would come off duty regularly and brag about how he had "thumped" on someone. Sure they were a minority, but I'd say they were about 5 to 7 percent of of the department, full of themselves and a little 'drunk' on their power.
:grr:

[Cuban_Liberal]

45. There are a few 'bad apples' in most any profession.

I don't deny that they exist, but in my career 5% would be the max, and I disliked them as much as everyone else. The vast majority of the ones I knew were sane, stable, reasonable, professional people who just wanted to do their job and go home at the end of the shift.

[Cooley Hurd]

46. 5%'s a lowball figure...

...I'd put the percentage at around 50%. I come from a family of police officers (father, brother, uncle and 2 cousins) and was around them since birth. Every party, every holiday we had the entire city PD at our house in shifts. I'd hear them tell stories of screwing with people just for the sake of it, and they'd LAUGH their asses off at each other's stories.

Of course, many become police officers for the civil service benefits, but many also become cops because of the power. I think asshole quotient is higher, IMO...