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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:25 AM
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Shameless in Colorado (from The Nation)
Shameless in Colorado


by Sharon Lerner


Cella Roberts was 23 weeks pregnant when she discovered her fetus had a heart defect that would make it unable to survive outside the womb. Roberts herself was suffering from a blood sugar problem she had developed during the pregnancy and, as it wore on, she was getting sicker and sicker, facing the potentially fatal complication of toxemia. Though an abortion seemed the most logical choice--her doctor counseled it, and everyone from her neighbors to her in-laws urged her to follow his advice--Roberts wasn't sure what to do. So she brought her rabbi along to a doctor's appointment to help her make the wrenching decision.

"We asked all the questions we could," remembers Roberts. "Then I cried, and cried, and cried." Rather than risk her life to deliver a dead baby, Roberts decided to end the pregnancy. She was referred to Warren Hern in Boulder, Colorado, virtually the only physician in a six-state area who could perform an abortion at that stage. The four-day procedure was excruciating. But Roberts, who already had a four-year-old daughter at the time, eventually managed to put it behind her. "I had responsibilities to people who were already living. I was a mother and a wife and a sister and a friend and a neighbor," she says. Roberts had to move on--and she did, adopting a baby last year.

But the trauma of that terrible period, already more than two years in the past, has resurfaced recently, since Roberts learned that, unbeknownst to her, the ashes from her cremated fetus had been buried in a secret ceremony at the Sacred Heart of Mary Catholic Church in Boulder. The church had gotten the ashes from Crist Mortuary, which had contracted with Hern in 2001 to dispose of medical waste. Though their contract specified that the material would not be part of a religious ceremony, the mortuary company had given each of seven shipments of ashes received under the contract to the church, which had placed them near a "memorial wall for the unborn," while a church bell tolled to the rhythm of a beating heart. Crist also gave the church ashes from fetuses that were miscarried at Avista Adventist Hospital in nearby Louisville, Colorado.

On January 23, one day after the anniversary of Roe v. Wade decision establishing the right to abortion, the church went public, inviting press to its ritual service involving the ashes of these miscarried and aborted fetuses, and beginning one of the most bizarre and unsettling chapters in the struggle over abortion. Much of the media attention has focused on the intentions of the church ("We want to give dignity to the short lives of these babies," the Boulder County Daily Camera quoted the organizer of the services as saying), and the no-hard-feelings stance of the hospital ("It's a neat thing what they're doing in Boulder," Avista CEO John Sackett said in an AP story.) But few have asked how the women directly affected by this gruesome theft feel about it.

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:34 AM
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1. Once again: Reality has far outdone Comedy
This article has to be the most disgusting thing I've read in several days. And that's saying a lot because there is so much evil crap coming from the Rectal Right these days.

Actually, it was only yesterday when I found online an essay promising Michael Schiavo a lifetime of RTL harassment.

Now we have abortion-related grave robbing that is sanctified by the holy rollers who have made the USA into its bitch.

Anything I could make up, any cock-and-bull story intended to be "satire", could not possibly keep up with the real-life doings and goings-on of our holy faithful. God help us all!

--p!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:45 AM
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3. sanctified by the holy rollers
These are the same holy rollers who have permanently altered the lives (altered no accident) of thousands of men in this country. Other countries may have their own skeletons to deal with... but still, religious fervor seems to be part of the puzzle.

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/canada.html
HIDDEN FROM HISTORY
The Canadian Holocaust
Through the Canadian residential school system, the Christian churches along with state authorities, the judiciary, doctors and the police implemented a policy of genocide against the native population.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:44 AM
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2. Back to the 1880's.
Things go in waves so all we gained has left and soon the s--- will hit the fan and people will see that they really do not want to live in the Age of the 1880 when the rich had all the rights and big business ruled. Life will not be so much fun when one works the day light hours and you have no say but for not working on Sunday. Be sure to be in church so your boss will be sure to know you do go and think like he does.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:33 AM
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4. since the medical material was taken
and used in a religious ceremony, it looks to me like a law or at least a regulation was broken. I don't expect the women whose lives have been again shattered by this thoughtless act will prosecute, but something should be done. Maybe writing the people who buried the ashes and telling them-no, they would say that that baby should have been born and the woman should have died. They have a strange set of priorities.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 08:34 AM
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6. It's "Christian" Grave-Robbing
They who are so fearful of Satanic cults and rituals have become what they worked so hard to hate.

--p!
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:43 PM
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7. Some of The Women Are Planning to Sue
Though I'm with the woman who wanted to break all the windows of the so-called church.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:08 AM
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5. jesusland is out of control
and out of it's mind.
which is what happens when you lose your soul.

these ''holy rollers'' are wholly evil.
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