Did Limbaugh really tell the troops liberals are against them?

[Norquist Nemesis]

Yesterday on Ed Schultz, he was talking about Limbaugh telling the troops there are people in America who are against them and what they're doing. Can anyone confirm what he's been telling the troops while he's over there?

I seriously doubt that Al Franken was trashing Bush while entertaining the troops for two USO tours. Why does Limbaugh get top billing and a pat on the back from the 'government'? Along with Gannon/Guckert, Limbaugh is part of this propaganda network.

Let find out exactly what he's saying to the troops and turn up the heat!

[Pirate Smile]

1. Yes, here is a thread on it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1618975

From Media Matters:

"Limbaugh brought his Democrat-bashing to U.S. troops in Afghanistan

While in Afghanistan to highlight America's ongoing relief efforts in that country, nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh delivered a partisan attack against a "political party," an apparent reference to Democrats, in a discussion with American troops. Recounting his remarks during a phone interview with guest host Roger Hedgecock on the February 22 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show, Limbaugh noted that he told the troops he wouldn't "go politically correct on them" by hiding liberals' "opposition" to the troops and their mission:

LIMBAUGH: And, by the way, folks, if you're wondering, I didn't go politically correct on them. I told them exactly who's saying what about them in an opposition fashion. I told them what I think is the sort of phony-baloney, plastic-banana, good-time rock 'n' roller of some members of the American left saying they support the troops but they don't support their mission --

And I haven't run into anybody who has snickered. They're eager for the truth here.

Later in the program, Limbaugh explained that when a soldier asked him whether the U.S. should permit Afghanistan to adopt its own system of government, Limbaugh replied to a group of troops:

LIMBAUGH: And I said, "There are a lot of people in America who don't trust free people to do the right thing. I won't mention a political party -- you all know it -- and I won't mention the ideology -- you all know it.

But I have no desire to tell the Afghans they have to do it this way, they have to do it that way. Give them their freedom and let them figure it out. I trust it."

Right-wing news website NewsMax.com covered Limbaugh's remarks to the troops in Afghanistan on February 23, reporting that Limbaugh "skewer left wing war critics for undermining their mission."

It isn't clear who is paying for Limbaugh's trip to Afghanistan or if he is being paid for his time, as Media Matters for America has noted."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502230009

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. Thanks! Time for action people!

It's time to call/email our elected officials from the states on up to the national levels. Make sure the state officials are pushing the nationals to get this moving. State seats are looking at their campaigns and sensitive to constituents; same with national pols up for 2006.

Also, LTTE throughout.

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[LiberalinNC]

5. Of course he has a huge following, seeing that armed forces radio

only play his show! (So I hear)

[raccoon]

7. If Limbaugh still has any credibility with anybody

then that person(s) is truly beyond hope. After that came out about him being addicted to precription drugs, he has shown himself to be a hypocrite, besides being a big-mouthed jerk (being polite here).

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[Toots]

14. It isn't the drugs use though that is bad it is the hypocrisy

Republicans absolutly refuse to ever see any hypocrisy from their side. They are afterall perfect people who never make any mistakes ...just ask Bush*.

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. Drugs aside...we, as Americans should not be tolerating the

continued propagandizing.

Maybe there IS a point with the drugs...Both Gannon/Guckert and Limbaugh have something in common. Hmmm...spew hate against Liberals, questionable morals, government sponsored commentary mis-represented as "news"

[newyawker99]

21. Hi raccoon!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. And I wonder if

he has a following because that's all they get to hear.

[daa]

4. What do you expect

from a discredited drug addict that is seriously fact-challenged?

[Norquist Nemesis]

6. Exactly! It's another in your face f-u

from the administration's network of propaganda. This is how it's tied to Gannon.

[tom_paine]

8. Of course, he did. Everyone knows all Juden, I mean, liberals

are Enemies of the State.

(sorry, I sometimes get my Goebbelsian versions confused...it's LIBERALS this time around)

[lebkuchen]

22. Liberals: the new "nigger"

You have to wonder if the majority of soldiers will eventually "get it." The democratic party doesn't control anything, and hasn't for the last four years, and won't for the next two to four years. The soldiers have plenty to complain about, and if enough of them figure out that they've been handed a lemon of a job for life, courtesy of the GOP, it might occur to them that Limbaugh is just another RW media whore sent out to keep their fires of hatred against evil-that-doesn't-exist stoked.

Those soldiersthat don't "get it" will simply have to continue sucking it up for the rest of their careers, thanks to the dictates of the ruling party. It's no skin off my back.

[tom_paine]

23. The Democratic Party will never rule Amerikan again, mostlikely

Caeser has crossed the Rubcion and we are all kidding ourselves if we think the Imperial Family (even if they are forced to switch Emperors every 8 years) will allow their power to slip away no matter what the Imperial Subjects of Amerika, the Fodder Units, as Prince Jeb calls us, think.

I hope I am wrong, but given the situatation I would put the chance that Amerika will ever become America again at 2%.

Too much is destroyed, the generations that remember Free America are old or dead, the Baby Boomers have turned out to be both a great and a horrific generation of both passionate truth-loving activists and pathetic cowardly lie-loving consumptatrons.

(not that any of the other generations have exactly covered ourselves in glory)

There are too many Goebbelsian Automatons out there and too many Good Germans and not enough of us Free Americans to stop them.

Everyone will "get it"..in the ned after it's too late.

[lebkuchen]

24. I said the same thing pre- 2000 election

The GOP was in no way going to lose that election after dragging the country through four years of impeachment over 9 BJs--while plotters were making plans to collapse the US economy.

The WP has reported a 29% increase in Marine suicides. The GAO has reported a failed lack of support for soldiers returning with post traumatic stress symptoms.

Imagine what the US will look like after its soldiers have completed 3, 4, 5 or more rotations in a war zone. The country will be a powder keg.

I agree with you, the democratic party is finished in the US, and I think democracy is toast. Either the current system implodes, w/America having to rebuild as Germany did post WWII, or I will never live in the US again.

It boils down to a matter of personal safety and the will to survive and live a decent life. Try living outside the US and return every few years. The deterioration is obvious.

[ComerPerro]

26. it can be traced right back to 9/11/01

Thats when they made their power grab.

[tom_paine]

29. I disagree: My belief is that 9/11 changed very little

12-12 is what changed everything.

I also believe that if 12-12 hadn't happened and Gore had been allowed to assume his rightful position, then the Hart-Rudman Report would have been implemented early in 2001 and 9/11 might have been lessened or not happened at all.

They made thier power grab in 1998, with impeachemnt, which was really an Imperial Roman style attack by punsihing a person's friends until enough ofthem walk away that you can crush him without fear of consequences.

Or perhaps in 1993 when they conclusively showed that the Formerly Free Press was now a cowardly Infoganda "service" easily manipulated and lies to.

Either way, to my view 9/11 was not the Focal Point, but the bullet behind the ear that ended Free America once and for all

[ComerPerro]

30. ok, 12/12, yes

But I believe that if Bush had been elected, were it not for 9/11 than we would have carried congress in 2002, we would have complete control now, and everyone would realize what an idiot Bush is.

I agree with your analysis as well. I just think that 9/11 was the final nail in the coffin.

Awfully lucky for Bush that it happened, right?

[Just Me]

12. He's guilty of egregious anti-Americanism!!!

He spreads hatred and intolerance against any and every fellow American who fails to conform to his mold of nationalistic fervour/power/profit/barbarianism,...and, hell, he makes a damned good living dividing what was formerly the "United States of America".

The more he spews hatred against fellow Americans, the more money his fascist-like supporters pay him.

What a disgusting example of an American. What an ass!!!

[underpants]

13. Rush's call from Media Matters

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502230009

LIMBAUGH: And, by the way, folks, if you're wondering, I didn't go politically correct on them. I told them exactly who's saying what about them in an opposition fashion. I told them what I think is the sort of phony-baloney, plastic-banana, good-time rock 'n' roller of some members of the American left saying they support the troops but they don't support their mission --

And I haven't run into anybody who has snickered. They're eager for the truth here.

[Just Me]

18. Oh, but, Rush, my hateful lard, you ARE being "politically correct",...

,...fascist-style by misrepresenting reality, intentionally demonizing those who engage in political dissent, and encouraging hatred against fellow Americans.

You, Rush, make me believe in reincarnation because you are the spitting remake of a blindly loyal brownshit (shirt).

You're also as ugly on the outside as you are on the inside. GROSS!

[Norquist Nemesis]

19. Absolutely! But don't get distracted...

He's part of ALL of it. Limbaugh has been propped up there for others to take their cues and model themselves after.

He (and Gannon/Guckert, et al) is being promoted and sponsored by this current administration.

[Norquist Nemesis]

16. But..but..but... he speaks the TRUTH!

:puke:

I agree with you 100% A vile, disgusting, hate-filled individual. But he's the poster boy for getting the 'conservative' message into the 'mainstream'. He was invited to the WH by Bush I.

He is part of this network though. Connect the Gannon/Limbaugh are proof of the propaganda message.

[mwb970]

15. Sowing division among our troops.

Is this how he shows his "support"? I think it's treason, myself.

[Norquist Nemesis]

17. Getting closer!

It's not just Limbaugh that is being treasonous. He would not be there if the administration did not want him to be.

[Old and In the Way]

20. I wonder how those soldiers who are progressive, liberal, and Democrat

felt about that? I wonder how they feel about a Party that smears the actual service of Democratic vets and protects an AWOL fraud? I wonder how they really feel about this flock of chickenawks, led by the loudest squawker, Mr. Can't-serve-because-I've-got-an-anal-cyst Limbaugh?

[reichstag911]

31. see...

... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3176725&mesg_id=3176725 for an answer.

[zbdent]

25. Funny, he described his own party

"those who don't think that free people can decide for themselves" or whatever.

You mean that the Religious Right is allowing people to think for themselves????? Since when?

[ryan_cats]

27. Sounds like a diversion

What if he's creating a diversion while he harvests and brings home some poppies for dried flower arangements.

Why didn't he go to Iraq, I beleive Al Franken has been there twice.

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. Yes, Franken has been there twice

with USO tours. Big difference in the presentation, though.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/02/cnna.franken/
"Franken: Politics not an issue on USO tour
Friday, January 2, 2004 Posted: 3:27 PM EST (2027 GMT)

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Comedian Al Franken, a frequent critic of the Bush administration and other conservative figures, recently returned from a United Service Organizations tour for American troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries.

Franken discussed the USO trip Friday with CNN's Candy Crowley.

CROWLEY: That must have been quite a trip. It was a feel-good trip for you?

FRANKEN: It was my fourth USO tour. This is the first one in a really active theater of battle. I've been to Kosovo three times. But this was -- we went to Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan and Uzbekistan -- and it was great. And I always love doing it.

The troops really appreciate it, and I sort of set aside all political kind of stuff and do like a Bob Hope type of show.
...

If Limbaugh's creating a diversion, then he should be investigated for fraud. Taxpayers are putting up at least part of the tab on this propaganda promotional tour.