OK, who wants to help out with JEFFGANNON.ORG?

[Goldmund]

As some of you may know, I was shocked to find that jeffgannon.org was an available domain name yesterday... So I registered it. I'm not sure what we should do with it yet -- whether to put up a blog about all things Gannon, or a parody site, or a little of both, or something else... But chances are that the domain name will give whatever we put up there instant visibility.

So, here's what I'm thinking -- if you're interested, post in this thread. I'll look through your posting history and if I'm satisfied you're not a freeper-creeper (for everybody's good, we don't want a troll), I'll IM you the password to a chat room. We'll set up an AOL or a Yahoo chatroom or whatever, and get together there and iron out the details of how to do this.

So, post WHAT you're interested in doing (web design, writing, illustration), WHAT you think should go on the site, and TIME(s) (this weekend) when you have an hour or so to meet online and chat about this.

[Midlodemocrat]

1. Count me in.

No freeper here. I do a bit of writing on the side for my company.

I would like to see a parody site that maybe could expand to include more of the hypocrites associated with the right.

I am usually available on weekends, but Sunday afternoon would be absolutely perfect for me.

[Crankie Avalon]

2. I'd be very interested in doing a little humor on a parody site...

...like what I did here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3176546

Maybe I could do a "Jeff Gannon takes you there" sort of thing, where I'd pretend to be him and "report" on events by writing captions for topical photos of Bush making state visits, vacationing, or whatever he happens to be doing at the current time--captions that "unwittingly" end up making Bush as leader, and Gannon as sycophant, look like fools.

I could also write more narrative type satire.

I only have internet access at work, so I'm not available to talk on weekends (not on the computer, anyway...maybe I could give you a phone number?). I'd be able to work on stuff during breaks from work during the week, though (like what I do now).



P.S. Maybe I should also add that I'm the editor of our customer newsletter here at work.

[Goldmund]

12. Sunday afternoon chat?

[Crankie Avalon]

40. Check your inbox...

...I just sent you a PM.

[Roland99]

3. Avoid the gay aspect as much as you can...focus on the money links

I'd put up a summary of everything from the blogs and the MSM to date.


Focus on the link to the Eberles and the Texas GOP and to Ashcroft/Rove.

And, if well link to this, it will bump up on Google's search results.

[Goldmund]

5. What gay aspect? I don't even know that he's gay.

I only know he's a hooker.

[Roland99]

7. There ya go.

[Crankie Avalon]

8. "Hooker" is right!

I personally prefer the word "hooker" for him--"prostitute" sounds too dignified.

[nostamj]

4. did someone say "parody" ???

I do web graphics too. check out my site (www.jeffreymatson.com)

I'M FOR SALE or, "The Ballad of Jeff Gannon"
(to the tune of "Love For Sale" with profound apologies to Cole Porter)

FOR A WHITE HOUSE PASS ON MY BULLDOG NECK
I'LL IGNORE THE FACTS, LET THEM GO UNCHECKED
IT'S A BIZ I'VE BEEN IN BEFORE...
I'VE SOLD MY ASS

TRUE MY MAN DATE WORK WAS TOUGH ON THE KNEES
SO I ASKED: CAN I BE A JOURNALIST PLEASE?
WHEN MY JOHN GAVE ME HIS SMIRK...
I WENT TO WORK...

SPIN FOR SALE
RHAPSODIZING BUSH SPIN FOR SALE
SPIN THAT SELLS YOUR LATEST LIES
SPIN STRAIGHT FROM MY MANLY THIGHS
I'M FOR SALE

BUY MY PRIDE
IF YOU SEEK DISTRACTION, I'M YOUR GUIDE
ON THE FLOOR AND START TO BARK
JUST IMPRESSIONS, NOT A MARK
I'M FOR SALE

LET THE LIBRULS FLING THEIR POOP
IN THEIR LOSER WAYS
IT WON'T GET THEM IN THE LOOP
LIKE MY BOYTOY DAYS

IF YOU PAY YOUR WHORE ENOUGH
THEY'LL DELIVER FLUFF OR ROUGH
ONLINE, ON CUE
EVERY WORD IS UNTRUE

I'M FOR SALE
MILITARY TOUGH STUFF FOR SALE
AND WHEN SCOTTY CALLED MY NAME
WE'D JUST WINK AND PLAY THE GAME
I'M FOR SALE
I'M FOR SALE
I'M FOR SALE.....

[Blue-Jay]

29. HAHA! That's awesome!

[nostamj]

34. thanks! I gotta million of 'em!

[Blue-Jay]

38. I know you do!

You da man now, dog.

(seriously, that cracked me up. I sang it three times)

[nostamj]

39. did you see this one? (it's kinda related....

INTERNET BLOGGER
(to the tune of "Paperback Writer" and with apologies to the Beatles)

WELL I READ A RUMOR ON A COOKING SITE
THAT GEORGE BUSH'S DOG GAVE HIM QUITE A BITE
BASED ON MY GOOGLING AND A LEXIS SEARCH
I'M ON TO THE TRUTH AND I WANT TO BE AN INTERNET BLOGGER
INTERNET BLOGGER

IT'S A LITTLE STORY WITH A LITTLE SLANT
BUT THAT WON'T STOP ME FROM A RIGHTEOUS RANT
THE SOFTWARE'S EASY, I CAN TYPE REAL FAST
AND THE HOSTING'S FREE SO I GET TO BE AN INTERNET BLOGGER
INTERNET BLOGGER
INTERNET BLOGGER

I WOULD POST SOME PICTURES BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW
DO YOU THINK WONKETTE WILL SAY THAT I'M A 'WOW'?
I CAN'T READ YOURS BECAUSE I'M WRITING MINE
LOOK! I GOT THREE HITS! AND THAT PROVES THAT I'M AN INTERNET BLOGGER
INTERNET BLOGGER

SOON I'LL HAVE CREDENTIALS AND ADDRESS THE PREZ
SEE ME SUNDAY MORNING DOING 'MEET THE PRESS'
WHILE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA LOOKS ON WITH DISDAIN
THEY CAN'T SHUT ME UP, BECAUSE I AM AN INTERNET BLOGGER
INTERNET BLOGGER
INTERNET BLOGGER

[Blue-Jay]

41. heh heh heh.

Every time I try to do a song parody, I get off topic and add too much filth. Hey, I gotta be me.

[Goldmund]

49. Thank you, excellent

stay tuned, I'm overwhelmed with the sheer number of people interested.

[Clark2008]

6. I will be glad to help

I'm a former reporter and currently work in marketing and PR.
Just let me know in what direction you're headed and I'll be more than happy to fill the void.
I love pardoy! :)

[Goldmund]

9. Cool -- is Sunday afternoon a good time to chat?

[Norquist Nemesis]

10. The most valuable issue this site would have

is to expose the propaganda network of the Republicans/Conservatives. A site with verifiable connections of these people showing how the "Conservative Messengers Club" of brainwashing (and lying) are all in bed together. (figuratively speaking, of course)

A focus that doesn't shoot the messenger, but exposes the method without tinfoil accessories would be most informative.

:)

PS - I'm on a real rip today with this propaganda thing; especially after hearing Ed Schultz yesterday talk about some details on Limbaugh's government approved Afghanistan appearance.

[Roland99]

11. That's it...and sort of a bigger picture of what I was talking about

follow the money.

Someone's funding this propaganda and someone was funding Gannon.

[Goldmund]

13. Thanks for the advice!

[Zuni]

14. I would love to write Gannon satire

I think that would be funny as heck

[Goldmund]

15. Sunday afternoon chat?

[Zuni]

16. what time?

[Goldmund]

17. I dunno -- how's, say, 3PM?

If not, let me know what works better.

[Zuni]

18. PM me--I'll be here

[Goldmund]

19. cool

[LdyGuique]

20. I'm in

I run my own blog A World Where wRight is wRong -- you can double check my thinking there.

Since I'm way left-coast (1 more hour than PST) -- post the time for Chat based on some standard that I can figure out -- but I can be around Sunday a.m. my time -- afternoon your time

If we want jeffgannon.org to take off rapidly, all of us will need to link to the site via our own websites to get it's rating up quickly. Blogs rank higher in google than forums, although if one uses the "short html" format, forums can do well, too.

I think that half of what is needed to be done is to counter every single Jeffie posting with a counter article that is the "mirror opposite" -- this would drive him nuts

[Goldmund]

21. Nice blog -- how's Sunday 3PM ET, 11AM your time?

also, good advice as far as links -- thanks!

[Zuni]

22. that is a great idea

we could take his articles and turn them into parodies, like the way Whitehouse.org does it to Bush's speeches

[Rush1184]

23. I am interested

I think a parody site would be appropriate, with maybe a section of it being a blog of news events surrounding the story. I would be interested in helping with the writing, web design (to an extent), and image work (if I can get my photoshop running on this computer).

This weekend I will probably be free whenever, but I am in the UK (I am studying abroad), so I am five hours ahead of you all on the east coast, though in the evening your time is fine for me as I am a night owl.

[Zuni]

24. Free Republic has a heads up on JeffGannon.org

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1350437/posts

read post 16

[Goldmund]

28. LOL

post 17, you mean... We're so vile and full of hate.

I'm almost thinking about having a resident Freeper allowed to post on the site, point/counterpoint style. What do you think about that?

[Zuni]

33. where would you find a freeper?

I think leaving it as a parody/humor and Gannon update site would be the best.

We could parody his new blog: The Bulldog is Back! For all those who missed my...services, I want to let you know that I'm back and ready for action!

[Goldmund]

35. Well, after having talked to a bunch of people about this....

...I think I'm moving away from the parody idea. For a few reasons:

1) The domain name is very visible, and it would be a good chance to present the HOWs and WHYs of the Gannon saga, dispell the right-wing bullshit such as their characterization of this as "gay-bashing," "personal life intrusion", "targeting the conservative reporter", etc. It's a good chance to make it a site about the Bush propaganda in general, and use Gannon as a symbol of that propaganda.
2) It would be difficult to avoid giving undue stress to the less relevant aspects of this story (sex) if this were a parody site, because, let's face it -- in our culture, exactly those aspects are the ones most succeptible to humor. Untangling the political implications of this story isn't so funny; but picture Gannon huffin' and puffin' on top of Rove, and you get instant laughs.

This isn't to say that we shouldn't have a parody, cartoon, etc SECTION on the site -- but I don't think that this should be the entirety of the content.

As far asd involving a freeper or two (or a conservative, in general, a Gannon/Bush defender) -- I think that it would make sense to do so if we are trying to build a site against PROPAGANDA. We're not hiding anything, including opposing opinions. And it would provide interest and dynamics.

Of course, I know all of the arguments against this idea... I'm just throwing it out there.

[radfringe]

44. no objection to a freeper or two

in order to keep it "fair and balanced" -- however they must submit their articles/postings/questions in advance for approval -- there should be no objections to this it's the same process they go through when they attend a bush town hall meeting...

:evilgrin:

[King Coal]

25. I would let one of the freepers in. Bob Boudelang. LOL!

[troubleinwinter]

37. Bob Boudelang... YESSSSS, PLEEZE!!!

[roseBudd]

26. You could do it in the manner of "Behind The Music"...

In BTM, the parties are proud of their bad deeds so they dish the dirt on themselves. As parody you can put attribute mean spirited snarky dialog to the people involved. Rather than use audio, you can PhotoShop photo illustrations with speech bubbles.

[Stephanie]

27. YO! www.jeffguckert.com still available?

As Eric Boehlert mentions this morning, the man formerly known as Jeff Gannon has re-launched his Web site -- and we don't mean hotmilitarystud.com. Gannon's "journalism" site is back up at jeffgannon.com; internet entrepreneurs should take note that jeffguckert.com is available from Go Daddy for $8.95 a year.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

[Goldmund]

30. but his name is JAMES Guckert...

which also may be available. Maybe we can get all of those domains and have them redirect to the same site?

[Stephanie]

32. oh duh! I just was reading that Salon column and rushed over here

to post it. Hmm - wonder if the column is a typo and jamesguckert is still available. If you got both, you could do two sites.

jamesguckert - to assemble the facts around the strange saga

and

jeffgannon.org - for the parody site

[Goldmund]

36. I understand why you got confused --

-- after all, "james" is a real tongue-twister, according to Bulldog.

[grumpy old fart]

31. Post some "news" on the site, and you can get a WH Press Pass!

oh that's right, you'd have to be some WH chimp's butt boy also.....

[radfringe]

42. raising my hand

can help with graphics/toons

think the site should include news/updates on gannon and the payola pundits

maybe have a section of payola pundit PIMP-ups - section where names are added, what they pimped, how much they have been paid and who paid them

also should have area related to the GOP-backed ads/info/fake news being pushed -- can call it CRAP (Commentary-Rhetoric and Propaganda)

[Goldmund]

43. LOL -- nice

[Goldmund]

45. kick

[JohnnyCougar]

46. Goldmund...some people over at dKos are already thinking about a website

The ones who originally started investigating the story.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/24/233953/019

Perhaps you can contact them. They have a whole slew of information and seem very dedicated. IMHO, we may as well have everyone on the same boat from the get-go.

[dutchdemocrat]

47. I am interested in helping!

Contact me by PM if you need some help.

DD

Here are a couple of my projects.

The Expatriate Group

a new BETA for the Amsterdam Times which is currently here

PM me for more details.

Cheers

DD

[thecorster]

48. you've got my help if you need it

i think as shitty as his site is, we should mimic it in every way possible. Use the same crap color scheme, font, pictures (but you might get in trouble for appropriating images...?), etc.

I write 80% of the memos at whitehousememos.com and I do 100% of the web design. That means I have some experiecne, but I'm already pretty damn busy. But for sure, I'd like to be in on this project and I will help wherever I'm needed.

Sunday at 3 would work for me.

[greenmutha]

50. FYI - Somebody already debunking his lies at this site: Propagannon

http://propagannon.blogspot.com/

Posted last night by new DUer georgia10:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3180550