Is Gannon Being Dangled As BAIT???? Is He Being Set Up as a Patsy???

[Beetwasher]

I dunno. Something really stinks about this whole "In your face" turn of Gannon's. I suspect it's part of some sort of "offensive defense" tactic and maybe part of a set up. I guess it's also possible that he's acting on his own and now a free agent of sorts who's out of control, but I doubt it.

By blowing him up and dangling him publically they may be trying to draw some people into "something" and setting up some sort of total muddying tactic.

Hmmm, if I were Rove and I were in this situation where this guy was exposed and it had potential to be really damaging, what would I do? I'd muddy the waters any way possible. Maybe tell him (Gannon) to really get in the face of my opponents (via a taunting website), forge some diaries and client lists (maybe several versions), then have him whacked and have the diaries and client lists "found" with all sorts of people's names in them who were my enemies and now implicated in Gannon's murder. "I mean, who has the most motive to kill him", they would say, "Why, those lunatic liberals who hated his guts, that's who! And all his gay Democratic clients who feared being exposed!".

[benburch]

1. He's trying to stay alive.

If he drops from the spotlight for even a moment he will be suicided and swept under the rug.

[liberal N proud]

2. Or a diversion from something else they are working on

behind our backs.

[elehhhhna]

3. His outing must scare the bejabbers out of several politicians

and hangers on, etc. on both sides of the aisle, IMHO.

Keep them nervous on purpose? Terra'lerts and "nukuler" talk not making Congress, press, etc. so complaint? Try blackmail. The second-oldest profession.

Hell they cenveniently Anthrax's Dan Ratherm et.al., after 911...these evil dudes will do ANYTHING to silence their critics.

Gannon could indirectly assure the passing of SS reform...

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. He scares the bejabbers out of all CONS

They've tried to dismiss it, then tried to explain (read: lie) about it, and now they're going to try and focus on JUST Gannon as an extreme partisan who has the freedom to express a view point. Never mind that "view" is aligned lock step with the 'majority' party...that won't be part of the framing.

No. Don't allow them to be successful with this framing. IT IS ABOUT THE PROPAGANDA.

[fromBrooklyn]

23. here here

(which I think was a way of saying - ) Hey, listen to what this guy just said, he's got it.

[CatWoman]

4. Gannon is being protected by someone very powerful

and I think Gannon has the goods on his protector.

[Bethany Rockafella]

10. I would say it's Rove but it could be Bush himself.

If he paid Gannon for his escort service before he was governor of Texas (which would be in the early 90s), Gannon knew who he was and assured him he wouldn't reveal anything to anyone. Yet Gannon kept some proof that he had sex with Bush and is milking it for as much as he can.

[CatWoman]

12. mark my words:

that idiot is going to be "suicided".

[elehhhhna]

13. It will be the bloggers fault. Sorta like Princess Di & the paparazzi.

Wonder if Gannon dated Dodi, too?

[Beetwasher]

16. I'm Almos POSITIVE Gannon THINKS He's Got Goods On Someone

He's got SOMETHING. He'd be REALLY stupid (as opposed to merely stupid) not to. However, whatever he's got can be muddied by forged/altered copies of whatever he's got. Whatever he's got is probably NO protection for him, thought he's probably too stupid to realize it.

[elehhhhna]

39. Copies of Karls DNA? Forged? Nah...

[Bethany Rockafella]

22. I really hope this doesn't happen.

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. I say grab the bait and chomp big time!

Forget the sexcapages (except that he seems to have questionable moral values which are quickly becoming known as part of the 'Conservative Messengers Club' affinities).

So...seize this opportunity and tether it with all your power to the rest of the propaganda network (Limbaugh, Hannity, Faux Views, etc)! THAT IS THE ISSUE--GOVERNMENT SPONSORED PROPAGANDA!

[RevCheesehead]

11. But keep your eye on the central issue: PROPAGANDA.

Gannon is key, for sure, but let's not forget that the real issue is that someone decided to screw with the media. It isn't the fake journalist that disturbs me as much as the fake questions, fake news, and fake news "experts" being paid by our own government.

[Lautremont]

6. He's disguised himself as G. Gordon Liddy in an effort to stay alive:

This may or may not work for him.

[elehhhhna]

15. He could try this on for size:

[nashville_brook]

19. teehee -- he's no G-Man

god, i love that pic! look at those collars!

but seriously, how much you wanna bet The Guck dreams in Liddy-vision.

[HereSince1628]

7. Rove may choose the easily discredited to cover his tracks,

At some point last week I read a piece that this is typically the way Rove works. I wish I had a link, I don't, I know, that's lame...

The point of the posting was that he builds in deniability to his operations. We heard Gannon on one of his interviews say if you think were going to plant someone wouldn't they pick someone better than me? Well, NO.

They'd pick someone JUST LIKE Guckert! Someone who is easily discarded, someone who's story can be driven toward sex and porn sites....i.e. away from the real issue (Bush administration infiltration and influence/control of the White House press briefings.

IF you could prove Guckert was paid with Rove money, that would be great, and somebody needs to work that angle.

BUT at this point the main hunt should be on uncovering the who what where when why and how Guckert gained access to White House Press Breifing Room.

The story we have been given is too facile. It needs to be rejected. Someone must put pressure on the second level of Rove's defense.

[BOSSHOG]

8. Typical Conservative tactic

bush deserts his military unit to avoid a drug test, gop gets huffy, the lemmings think he is a hero.

limbaugh divorces at least three times, gets hooked on drugs, gets huffy, lemmings pray for his recovery and welcome his back.

O'lielly gets caught with his pants down, gets huffy, countersues, the lemmings hang on every word.

gannon story stinks up the internet, he gets huffy, conservatives in an uproar over "privacy", soon lemmings will be praying for his soul.

NO morals, NO character, NO integrity - typical neoconservatism.

[Roland99]

14. He was in tight with those in the WH for tooo long to be a patsy

[nashville_brook]

17. gannon is out there alone -- that's why the self-promotion

the repukes can't run away from him fast enough.

he's scared and alone.

[Jade Fox]

18. Gannon is clearly an exhibitionist of the first order....

Lets face it: anyone who posts nude pictures of himself on the internet
never met a kind of attention he didn't like. I think Gannon is completely
out of anyone's control.

And as someone else pointed out: how stupid is this guy that he used the
same fake name as a phoney reporter that he used to advertise himself
as a prostitute? A person with half a brain would have used his real name
as "journalist" and fake name as prostitute, there by giving himself some space
for deniability.

We're talking dumb here.

[Junkdrawer]

20. I know what you're saying...Gannon was like a wad of $100 bills...

on the street with a string leading off to somewhere. But why? News Management has made this a "Left Blog Only" type of story.

Unless Gannon Escorts Inc. has some big-name Dems as clients,

-or-

Rove thinks the Left Blogs might detect his Pearl-Harbor-for-Iran plans,

I don't see the trap.

[NightOwwl]

21. I think his (publicity) whoredom initially took them by surprise.

He's shown himself to be a pretty dim bulb; maybe he thought he could blackmail someone into keeping his mouth shut (in more ways than one.)

But maybe he has figured out by now that to disappear from of the public eye might not be the wisest move. Rove has a history of royally screwing *sorry* his enemies. If Gannon is considered an enemy now, he'll be needing to watch his back.

[fromBrooklyn]

24. He took too big a bite -

1. He gets some dirt.

2. He tells them he has dirt and They let him sit at their table (keep your friends close, your enemies closer).

2a. They get him into the WH press briefings, let him pretend he's starting to be a real reporter and not just a prosti, so he feels comfortable.

3. He actually does some useful work for them: Specifically the Daschel business.

4. For some reason he queers (haha) the deal, maybe he just pushes his place at the table too hard, wants too much, maybe they feel confident they can cut him loose, maybe just they let him work against his own best interests IE: He asks the President a 'question' on TV. (draws attention to himself (which is stupid for all the obvious reasons.)

5. Maybe they try and contain it for a day or two, then They cut him loose.

6. He realizes they've cut him loose, and suddenly all the dirt he has is starting to look less like a benefit and more like a liability because he knows as soon as people stop watching him, he's a gonner.

7. So he re-activates his blog. And starts singing as loud as he can, hoping to get himself back to the table.

8. Now We get to watch and see if he can hold on, or if he's going down.

[riverwalker]

26. Brooklyn, I think you nailed it

and welcome to DU! :hi:

[riverwalker]

27. the enemy of our enemy is not always our friend

Rove proved that in the Rather story. We have to be on our toes. If Gannon suddenly offers up diaries and "evidence" that are exposed as fake, it would be classic Rove.

[Bethany Rockafella]

28. That's why I don't mind playing his game.

If it can keep him alive, then I'm for it.

[Beetwasher]

29. I Don't Think He Got His Position Because Of His Posession of "Dirt"

I think he got it because he was perfect for it BECAUSE he was already a prostitute. I don't see HIM saying "Hey, I want to be a reporter, if you don't let me, I release this dirt!" I see it more as someone realizing he'd be good for that role because of his involvement in OTHER dirty schemes already and because they realized he's a good "roleplayer", as it were.

[Junkdrawer]

35. That's WAY more likely...I'll bet good ole Rover has an army of "Gannons"

or - as they said in the movie Ghostbusters - The Minions of Gozer.

[RaleighNCDUer]

25. They're using Gannon to distract us from

Michael Jackson.

[Chico Man]

30. You think Rove planted the web sites / ads?

And they will be exposed as "fake", posted in an effort to paint the libs as pure character assassins and hypocrites as far as supporting gay rights?

Full of paranoia, but still fairly plausible.

[fromBrooklyn]

31. No,

see Beet-washer's post.

I think, though, that (if any of my wild conjecture is followed through) if he tried to push dirt, he didn't not realize the depth of the game he was getting involved with (or we'd have heard of him before...(is that right?)).

So it all seems like a big promotion, one he does not realize he does not deserve...

[Beetwasher]

33. I Think The Ads May Or May Not Have Been Part Of OTHER Dirty Schemes

Such as blackmail and whatnot OR it could have just been something he was doing on the side (though I doubt it, blackmail of this sort is a VERY popular tactic).

I think he was involved in dirty tricks (Gay blackmail etc.), and this posing as a WH reporter was just ANOTHER dirty trick that may have "grown" out of that role. In the process, if he had any brains, he would/should have collected and SAVED someone of that dirt for his own protection/use and may think he's got some to protect himself from being whacked by his "sponsors".

I contend that whatever dirt he has WON'T protect him, because in this day and age practically ANYTHING can be forged, even video. So, while he may think he has protection (in the form of videos, client lists, diaries etc.), the waters can be muddied enough so that Rove (for example) COULD whack him and make it look like his other enemies (like Liberal bloggers or gay Dems) may have done it. If several diaries or client lists came out, how would anyone know which were real and which weren't? Would it even be possible to tell?

[Me.]

38. I Think So Too

He may also be being used as a distraction for other stories they want to slip by and, he may being used to keep other people in line. You do what we say or else we'll let Gannon "report" on you.

[Spike from MN]

32. Please don't use "Gannon" and "Dangle" in the same sentence.

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

34. Fake "diary" revelations. The idiots falling for this will make a big

show of subpoenaing this, and it'll have a bunch of revelations about orgies with Dean and John Kerry etc.

Honestly, would this surprise you? That's why I don't think the so called diary is worth much investigation--look into things where there's concrete evidence not subject to manufacture by the interested parties.

[trudyco]

36. Who figured out Gannon was actually Guckert?

I know the interview with the soup line was the one that "got people wondering". What people? Who figured out his real name?

[Beetwasher]

37. I Believe it Was Aravosis (sp) of America Blog

Who "outed" Guckert.

[deacon]

40. i don't think so at all-- who the heck would want this type of

publicity.

[Beetwasher]

41. No One, But Once It Starts

One tactic to deal with it is to run with it and blow it up bigger than ever and USE it for some other purpose.