Is there anyone here who still thinks ** is NOT a moron?

[Ladyhawk]

If it's an act, he should win an Oscar.

[diatribal]

1. I dont.

I think he's about average. But just has some real sneaky buddies. And some crazy plans.

But stupid, no. I dont think you can get that far while being an actual dumbass.

[newyawker99]

28. Hi diatribal!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Catherine Vincent]

2. HIs brain is fried.

[flyarm]

3. nope ..i am convinced..and tonight on

maolloy he said * had the ifb wire for the meeting at nato when he spoke..are there any doubts left?? nope i don't think so..he can not speak and chew gum at the same time..he is a brain dead moron!!

and he is evil to the core!

fly

[PinkTiger]

5. If you mean the wire to his ear,

All of them wear it. I have covered Presidents and former presidents as a news reporter, and although it is nearly undetectable by camera eye, with the naked eye you can see it plainly.
They wear it for safety. If they need to go somewhere fast, or move, or hear something right now, the SS can relay it immediately.

[ogradda]

too bad they weren't bright enough to use it on 9/11 .

maybe he forgot to put it on that day.

[quaoar]

4. Bush is not a moron

He's a rat bastard.

[bumblebee1]

20. Please don't insult rats

Unlike Bush, rats are intelligent and loving creatures. We have four of them as pets. Just call Bush a bastard if you must.

[Lone Pawn]

6. I'd guess he's slightly above-average, but unbelievably incurious,

and not at all well-suited to being President. He's surrounded by brilliant but egocentric, hardhearded men in an echo chamber. But he's not an actual idiot.

[Doctor_J]

9. Brilliant men?

heh heh. They may seem brilliant compared to Il Dunce, but this is by far the least intelligent and least educated bunch of criminals ever to run the country. Their only qualification for their jobs is their blind loyalty to Rove.

As for * himself, he is incapable of uttering a sentence in English without an earpiece. He cannot be counted to answer even a simple question unless he's been prepped for hours beforehand. My god, he couldn't even answer the debate softballs without being fed by wire. He couldn't find Delaware on a map, let alone Iraq. If he's not an idiot, then there's not a cow in Texas.

Yeesh, shouldn't you be at ilovelimpballs.com?

[Lone Pawn]

13. Let's think for a second.

Condi, Dick, Rummy, Gonzalez--they don't run shit. I'm rather surprised you think they do. Who actually decides things are a group of extremely intelligent, but extremely wrong men--I challenge you to prove to me that Feith, Kagan, Kristol, Pearle, Fukuyama, or Wolfowitz are uneducated or unintelligent. I have read many things by these men, and have attended public lectures given by most. They are not stupid men. They are wrong. But they are smart, and that is why they are dangerous.

Bush himself is a terrible public speaker, and is utterly incurious and bored with learning things. But he possesses mental faculties, though he does not use them. I doubt you would be able to speak in public for hours every day without ever misspeaking. I certainly could not, and I am not unintelligent. Without wishing for this to be an intelligence big-dick contest, I have an IQ of 156. That is genius-level. But I certainly could not speak in public constantly without ever making errors.

[Doctor_J]

15. you're slipping away

"could not speak in public constantly without ever making errors"

Bsuh can't speak AT ALL. The people who pull his strings know this, that's why he is NEVER allowed to speak without being fed. That is symptomatic of a moron. Every time he tries to speak without a script, he repeats the same words over and over again, often in the same 2.5-minute "sentence". He's an idiot.

156 ooooooo. :scared:

[Lone Pawn]

21. Have you seen the tapes of his debates with Ann Richards?

He's exceedingly articulate back then. He has the capacity for intelligence. He just doesn't use it. He has people that do all his thinking for him. His purpose now is to bring a message to the masses. And seriously, a moral-centric message delivered in a down-home way, simplified to black-and-white, and repeated over and over again sticks in the mind of Joe Freeperston far better than a nuanced, intelligent speech.

[illflem]

7. He's not stupid or a moron but rather

spoiled rotten brain lazy with no natural inquisitiveness. This is why his policies fail, he has no desire to think things out even though he can.

[Ladyhawk]

10. I just listened to some of the things he said while in Europe.

He used the word "relationship" about five times in the same sentence. To me, he sounds like a complete moron.

[Doctor_J]

12. yah

relationship, ownership, hard work, free(dom) 28 times at the inaugural. He is definitely bone-stupid, and ignorant to boot. The non-Limbeciles of the world consider him a dangerous laughingstock.

[Lone Pawn]

14. You just said he wasn't stupid

Now you say he is.

[Doctor_J]

17. huh?

I have never said that * isn't stupid.

[Lone Pawn]

18. I'm sorry,

other guy with the same avatar.
How lazy of me.

[DivinBreuvage]

8. I honestly believe he is of above-average intelligence

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's well-educated, well-read, well-informed, thoughtful, perceptive, or introspective. I certainly don't think he's an "untutored genius", as Abraham Lincoln or Herman Melville may have been. I think whatever gift he was born with was warped and stunted by his unloved rich kid childhood into a kind of selfish, manipulative cunning, and further damaged by years of alcohol and/or drug abuse. I think the chemical-induced brain damage may be responsible for some of his speech problems. But as far as everything else goes, I think he knows more or less exactly what he is doing, at least on the level of "this is going to profit me personally" or "I'm gonna stick it to this sonofabitch".

[Wwagsthedog]

11. From Webster's

One entry found for moron.


Main Entry: mo·ron
Pronunciation: 'mor-"än
Function: noun
Etymology: irregular from Greek mOros foolish, stupid
1 usually offensive : a mildly mentally retarded person
2 : a very stupid person

Don't you get the feeling that we're going to easy on him?

[jojo54]

16. He's not a moron

he's a completely dependent, insecure idiot. He depends on others to do his thinking, fighting and judgement. It's obvious when he hasn't had time to study his lines 'cause he stumbles all over himself.

[simcha_6]

19. Al Franken says no

Also, IQ tests show he's slightly smarter than Kerry

[Lone Pawn]

22. Those are IQ estimates, not tests.

About as reliable as a psychic.

[American Tragedy]

25. That is bullshit.

Kerry and Bush haven't taken IQ tests, or if they have, they've never released their scores.

And grades and SATs are not remotely reliable indicators.

[begin_within]

23. I think he's a moran.

[Senator Lamb]

24. hes not dumb

ignorant, not curious, lazy, but I think most of his appearance is just an act to appear as one of the guys or for his enemies to underestimate him. I also think his simple outlook on life is manipulated by PNACers, good vs. evil.

[American Tragedy]

26. I think he's average or below average at best.

I've observed him the past few years, and studied the course of his life, and I just don't find any reason to believe that he's particularly intelligent. You would expect some discernable indication of intellect, and I haven't seen it.

[pen dragon]

27. he's a dipshit

with dog-like intelligence. some dogs are real smart. Bush is only interested in the power and prestige, willing to do the bidding off his masters. he turns what he has of a brain off and throws around some phoney charm. he might have some kinds of smarts but we're definitely not dealing with an articulate or astute man here. he's a proud ignoramus and views deep subjects with contempt. Which makes him a dumbass on principle in my book. Plus, the way he enunciates words, his several hundred verbal gaffes, his disastrous performance at the debates...he's smart enough to get what his handlers want him to do...but he's a moron more times than not when he tries to execute it.

Verdict: dubya is a dangerous idiot, a fool who would be a drunk vagrant sex offender and petty thief with the IQ of sediment and the ambition of a cow pie if he weren't a Bush

[lojasmo]

29. "moron" is not an acceptable term.

Moron: n. "A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive."

-dictionary.com

Bush's IQ hovers aroun 100 Exactly average.

[blindpig]

30. he's a wilfully ignorant, arrogant rich asshole

That aw shucks song & dance is something rich crackers perfected years ago. Not so much an act as an attitude. He probably picked it up just to piss off his parents but it works well in the south.

[jpgray]

31. It's partially an act, and partially just ignorance--not stupidity (nt)