As much dirt as I could find on all the candidates.

[T_i_B]

Found this site at the time of the last US election. May be quite good for muck-raking this time around. Mind you, none of the Dems seem quite as sleazy as $hrubya. Indeed the fact that so much of this is "under construction" could be seen as a good sign. Just make sure that you are prepared for the dirt shown in here on the Dems to be flung at the Dem candidates and you can deal with it when it does come flying.

http://www.realchange.org/

George W. Bush, Jr.: Lied to congress and used forged documents to get approval for war in Iraq
-- Convicted of drunk driving, and lied repeatedly to cover that up.
-- Lied under oath to stop a private lawsuit.
-- Thin-skinned, he is trying to censor his critics both on the Internet and in Texas.
-- Longtime party animal now preaches abstinence and sobriety despite widespread rumors of sex, drugs and possibly even rock and roll.
-- His foreign business partner at Harken Energy gained access to President Bush and the U.S. National Security Adviser (Scowcroft) after Harken purchased Bush Jr.'s oil company.
Made millions from losing businesses, bailed out by his dad's friends.
Steered tens of millions of Texas state tax dollars to his campaign contributors, now steering billions of US tax dollars to his cronies and contributors.

Dick Gephardt: Political chameleon has morphed from an anti-abortion conservative to a protectionist lefty populist. Had to return $22,000 in questionable contributions from the Lippo Group after that scandal broke. A campaign volunteer illegally attained credit reports of 2 Gephardt opponents in 1996, though Dick and his paid staff were cleared of charges. He failed to report his half-interest in a $750,000 North Carolina beach home in his 1992 disclosure report, doing so 3 weeks later after being questioned about it (OK, this is all pretty thin stuff.)

Ralph Nader : Authoritarian hypocrite, secret luxury house, owned by the trial lawyers' lobby, just another politician, busted a union among his workers, abuses workers, amassing millions of dollars and playing the stock market with it, secrecy and stonewalling, vindictive toward critics, forced contributions to his college PIRG groups.

John Edwards: Under construction. Admitted lawyer

Al Sharpton: Seen on an FBI surveillance tape discussing a money laundering deal with mafioso Michael Franzese. Known associate of Michael Jackson. Reckless demagogue.

Joseph Lieberman: Under construction

Bob Graham: Under construction

John Kerry: John Kerry's a bonafide war hero who married wealth and looks like a movie star (well, Harry Dean Stanton anyway.) And yet... Under construction

Dennis Kucinich: This blue collar Cleveland kid has become a New Age mystic vegan who introduced a bill banning "chemtrails" in Congress. Massive flip flop on abortion. Led Cleveland into bankruptcy as boy mayor.

Carole Moseley-Braun: She went from a low level Chicago machine hack (Cook County Recorder) to one disastrous term as a US Senator, during which distinguished herself by living a luxury life off campaign funds and paying her boyfriend $15,000 as campaign manager, covering up charges of his sexual harassment, carrying water for big corporate contributors, and seeking help for an infamous Nigerian dictator. Based on that, she thinks she should be president?

Howard Dean: Short fuse. His son was arrested for driving the getaway car in a country-club liquor burglary. Dean worked at a Planned Parenthood clinic. Did he perform abortions? Under construction.

[ShaneGR]

1. LOL, I love the Edwards one.... "Admitted Lawyer"

If that's all they have on him he must be a saint. :-)

[CWebster]

5. There's nothing on Lieberman

by your measure he must be the second coming.

[AnAmerican]

2. And the point of posting this crap is???

Just what we need...another website from someone with a massively slanted viewpoint...and more than a touch of an agenda.

[RC]

3. Ask your self... Is it TRUE?¿?

Don't attack the messenger till you determine the validity of the message.

[salin]

7. The validity of the message

was clearly challenged almost immediately. This crap isn't even 'slightly slanted' - it is outrageously incorrect.

[neebob]

11. Definitely slanted

and incomplete. There should be multiple pages on Bush.

[salin]

12. not to mention

distortions about Gore - most of the fundraising issues were vetted and are understood - but I believe what they have listed includes the rw innuendo crap - without the context or corrections from the aftermath (investigations etc.)

[T_i_B]

18. WAY more on bush than any other candidate

Multiple pages we already have.

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

-- Convicted of drunk driving. Lied repeatedly to cover up his arrest.

-- Lying under oath. Bush & staff stop investigation of contributor's huge funeral home company.

-- Avoided Vietnam and Skipped Out on his National Guard Service

-- Texas government corruption: State $$ for campaign funders & business cronies

-- Cocaine: felony drug use, vile hypocrisy, and a hushed up arrest?

-- His "young and irresponsible" behavior: sex, drugs and (gasp!) rock and roll?

-- Thin skinned: censors his critics with police, lawyers, $$$

-- Character: Spoiled rich kid living off his family's name and reputation

-- Made millions on insider business deals, for little work
-- -- Deal #1. Personal Profits from Failing Oil Companies
-- -- -- -- Easy Money From Odd Sources
-- -- -- -- A Surprise Deal From Bahrain
-- -- -- -- Access to the President and National Security Adviser for his foreign business partner
-- -- Deal #2. Selling Oil Stocks Just Before Iraq Invaded: lucky guess or illegal insider trading?
-- -- Deal #3. A Big Slice of a Baseball Team
-- -- -- -- Hypocrisy: using government coercion to make his private fortune

[liberalnurse]

4. Dean is a physician but

his specialty is Family Practice. You must be an OB-GYN or surgeon to preform an abortion.

[salin]

6. what? When was Gephart

an anti-abortionist conservative? He has been a traditional liberal, ala Tip O'Niell (though far more hawkish than I), and part of the House leadership since at least the mid eighties. In that capacity he has always been supportive of unions - and thus his stands against NAFTA were never a surprise. It was no 'late life' turnabout.

Sorry - but I couldn't read past that characterization. If the assessment of Gep is SO far off from reality - I won't bother reading anything else as its credibility is challenged.

[T_i_B]

13. I've heard the "flip-flop" stuff before about Gephardt

Most notably on the now sadly defunct House of Crooks website. Of course being where I am I don't have much more info on the subject but I'm sure that you can find enough stuff out there if you look hard enough.

Perhaps the question of Gephart's views and how consistant they may have been is something for a whole new thread.

[salin]

14. but how they characterize him

as an antiabortion conservative? When? Certainly not in the eighties nor the nineties.

This is a hitjob. He is not my favorite candidate by a long-shot - but this sort of unfounded smear, that is not based on anything, is a joke.

[T_i_B]

15. Just found this little jobbie

http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/SO94/blow.html

Gephardt went to Northwestern University near Chicago, where he met his wife, Jane Ann Byrnes. He graduated from law school at the University of Michigan in 1965 and returned to St. Louis to practice law. In 1971, he became a local alderman; in 1976, he handily won a wide-open congressional race.

Heading off to Washington, D.C., the 35-year-old Gephardt was a perfect representative of his 98 percent white, socially conservative, blue-collar district: Personally, he was as colorless as Wonder Bread; politically, Gephardt thought Ronald Reagan had some good ideas, in particular, skepticism about government's role over business and the states. And Gephardt was moral, oh-so-moral. He wanted to pass a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion.

He made his mark quickly. In 1979, he and then-congressman David Stockman, a Republican who was later Ronald Reagan's budget director, torpedoed Jimmy Carter's health care cost-containment plan. (Their alternative was to encourage voluntary competition among insurance companies. Gephardt has since somewhat sheepishly repudiated this idea.) In 1985, Gephardt became the first head of the newly formed Democratic Leadership Council, a controversial group within the party because of its moderate-to-right leanings.

After 1985, Gephardt moved steadily to the left, aligning himself more closely with traditional New Deal Democratic constituencies: labor, old people, minorities. He did it partly because Reaganomics was harming his district, and partly to facilitate his climb within the House, whose Democratic caucus traditionally defines the left wing of the Democratic Party.

[DrFunkenstein]

8. I Love Harry Dean Stanton!

:loveya:

[John_H]

9. I use the Nader stuff all the time.

It's well documented and sourced. You know, this is part of politics. If you can't deal with your past getting researched and published, get out.

[neebob]

10. More dirt on Kerry

In poking around the Vietnam Veterans Against the War site and following links, I saw something about Kerry having returned his medals in some demonstration and lying about it afterward. That really bugs me.

[Clark Can WIN]

16. That's the wonder of the web

Any schmo with an axe to grind can make a page and spew whatever garbage lurks in their pale, vitamin B deprived hearts.

Somebody will post a link to it and go SEEEEEE! :crazy:

As long as we are digging dirt, we should specify if this is just the garden level Google crap or fact. Not opinion, FACT.

[mb7588a]

17. Kerry's medals

I reckon he threw them onto the lawn of the White House. But they weren't really his medals, which now hang on the wall of his Senate office.

Regardless... He's the best guy we got.