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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:08 PM
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I'm not going anywhere and I'm ashamed of our military officers

if any american house needed cleaned out it's the officer rank of our military.

isn't a military made or broken by it's officers?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:10 PM
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1. The Officer's Corp was purged of rationalists ...
By the PNAC leadership ....

In the end, though, officers carry out orders from above ...

POLICY is the problem .... ALL nations in this sometimes dreadful world need military power .... it is the MISUSE of power that sticks in my craw .... not the mere existence of it ...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:20 PM
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2. again it wasnt the soldiers, was the administration
that conditioned the attitude of the troops. they are the ones with the power to create intigrity in troops, or not. bush has always chosen the lesser.

because we, the mothers, sisters, brothers and father....the friends of these soldiers are appalled at bush and what he has done to our people speak out against bush's abuses equates us to having the courage and integrity to stand up for our troops. those that blindly follow bush allowing this are the ones that turn their backs on the troops. we are not going after the troops, we are going after those that create our troops.

the soldier that stands in iraq not wanting to do what they are told, the murdering of innocent or the fighting civilians, need to hear us recognize what is being asked of them, and they need to hear us stand up for them. if we cannot do this for our fellow man over seas, then we are the ones that have let them down
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:26 PM
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4. Ditto seabeyond, from a military family. n/t
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:25 PM
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3. I agree with seabeyond. After being a protester against the Vietnam
War, you have to keep after the ones that pull the strings. The grunts, including officers, are basically taking orders. The generals though are with the higher ups. I know we learned this in Vietnam, but looks like the truth got lost - the government lies. The government does what it wants and when it wants to and it really likes war. It's up to the citizens to make government honest, and that doesn't seem to exist in the US right now.
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:32 PM
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5. Officers have to follow orders too.
While better educated and should be better able to understand and identify immoral orders, most officers still would be subject to harsh treatment if they didn't follow their orders. The blame is at the top.
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