Check who the Moderator is of The American Conservative Forums

[trumad]

http://www.1-2-free-forums.com/mf/americanconserv-about1316.html

[Old and In the Way]

1. Is that vetwife?

[ultraist]

13. I noticed that too and had posted the link on the other thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3182474#3182700

I did a google of her name and that site popped right up.

[Goldeneye]

2. Is that the one that left DU this morning?

[trumad]

4. It sure is....

[fooj]

8. Now i know why she didn't respond to my post. Too much TRUTH

in it!! Thanks for the post!

[havocmom]

3. not really surprised

thanks for the link. good catch

[Career Prole]

5. My word.

She's everywhere!

[JitterbugPerfume]

16. pathetic

nt

[seabeyond]

6. you know what it is, work wit me

you probably get it better than i. going back to the feel of vietnem

the more this goes to quagmire, the more the troops cannot win. the sadness for the loved ones over there, giving their all. the families here, giving their all. and success not happening. the more they have to bubble themselves, insulate from the reality cause of acceptance of loss. the more they need the unconditional support with no thought, or truth

you get where i am coming. didnt this happen during vietnam. the more the left saw it was a loss, loss of life for both sides, wasnt going to work, and ultimately being on the soldier side to extract him from the war, the more they were yelled at by other side not supporting troops

and reality it is the pain and fear from those participating

this is bigger, but just untieing knots here where vetwife took us. her love for her men, and yet seeing the pain and fear in them. a protective mama thing

i might be stepping over line here. but i truly like to understand what is happening. to see what we are creating. to find solutions

[dray178355]

12. I think she's trying to make a buck somewhere...

What's with the sexy picture and all? If I were trying to raise awareness of vets issues I wouldn't be putting up a glamour shot of myself. I'd been pounding the streets in DC. What an interesting coincidence.

[havocmom]

15. Yes, it is a lot like a battered kid who will likely defend his/her

abuser. Most people just have to believe the people who are supposed to take care of things are decent and doing things right. It is too scary for some to accept that we all have to be the grown ups and not assume that we will always have 'good father' taking care of us.

[stepnw1f]

34. Very Insightful

I believe those with loved ones would despise those who may point out reality's ugliness and how it effects them directly and indirectly. There is plenty of people here willing to give comfort.

All people have to do is ask, and I'm sure they shall receive.

[shawcomm]

7. Wow, nice find.

amazing, acting all huffy.

[CatWoman]

10. you know, the kicker is

I've seen a hell of a lot more vet bashing on the conservative sites.

Support our Troops is just another catch phrase to them.

[shawcomm]

27. Oh yeah, I've seen the freeper types go absolutely nuts

when someone in the military, or freshly home, states even the slightest criticism of the war on Iraq. Even if they say something because of the grief of the loss of friends, they get absolutely trashed for not putting the chimp on a throne with every sentence.

"Support the Troops" is nothing more than an answer to the new and not-so-improved, "Your papers, please."

[seabeyond]

63. the obvious would be mccain, clelland, kerry n/t

[UdoKier]

9. Well, I'll be damned.

Well, at least we know it's no big loss then...

[tsuki]

11. I don't understand. Why do we have to thank a veteran? No one

ever rushed up to my Dad and thanked him. I think it would have made him uncomfortable.

I'd settle for the Republican Party to quit bitching about how much it costs "them" to do what is right and take care of the Vets.

[Bouncy Ball]

23. My husband doesn't want people running up to him and thanking

him, either. Hell, he doesn't like even mentioning that he's a vet. Not that he's ashamed of anything, but he's just a private person and wants to be left alone.

[BrklynLiberal]

30. Hi BB. Just PMd you to take a look at this thread.

[AZCat]

35. My dad feels the same way.

I don't know a lot of vets (or at least the ones that are public about it) so I don't know if this is common, but he is very private about his time in the military.

[Name removed]

14. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[CatWoman]

22. she's in for a rude awakening

[senseandsensibility]

17. This is very sad

Can someone explain to me how she can support the people who smeared Max Cleland, a man in one of the photos on her thread? :eyes:

[tsuki]

65. Good question. And Kerry. And McCain. And anyone who served

in Viet-Nam.

[kaitykaity]

18. Dupe.

[Totally Committed]

19. I'm stunned.

Don't know why, exactly. But, I am.

I stand here chastened, and a bit sorry I spoke up for her.

Thanks for the info. What we don't know may truly kill us.

TC

[murielm99]

38. I didn't speak up for her, but I was put off by the copycat threads.

Not any more!

I wasn't sure who had offended her, but I know DU can get very nasty at times. I figured she had her reasons.

I always liked vetwife. This is a shock. I feel chastened, too.

[Bouncy Ball]

20. And is a moderator on another website

set up to mirror this one that I won't name. That has all of 66 members. Sorry that makes me giggle so I had to mention that.

[DulceDecorum]

21. There are SEVERAL such persons in the 911 forum

but I was under the impression that we are not permitted to out them.

[AZCat]

25. Really?

I was also under the impression that it was against the rules, but wasn't aware of any in that particular forum.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.


Edit: clarified my "impression" - sorry.

[Padraig18]

26. I'll be damned!

:wow:

[BrklynLiberal]

24. After all that whining and crying till 4AM......

[Misunderestimator]

28. WTF???? Wow! You sure do your research quickly!

I thought the site I KNEW about was bad enough... just fucking WOW!

[trumad]

36. It was very easy.

I simply typed in her screen name in google and it was the first hit. I'm surprised it wasn't found earlier.

[Misunderestimator]

46. I guess it takes a little self-immolation to get people curious.

:)

[trumad]

47. self-immolation ?

Sounds Sexy...

[Misunderestimator]

52. I was picturing something more like this:

[Bouncy Ball]

29. I'd seen her on

another conservative website I won't name but I thought most people knew she was a moderator over there. That's why I kind of kept my distance from her here. I wasn't exactly sure which side she stood on and was wary of her motives. Plus I read some of her posts over there, bashing DU and DUers and I wondered why the hell she even bothered to post here if she hated it so much. I also wondered how many other DUers had seen that stuff over there.

[Nite Owl]

59. A moderator?

Wow she could have fooled me. I really don't get it, how could she go into the arms of those that really don't support the troops, those that are out to put them in harms way? How many of those in charge actually served our country. They are a bunch of chickenhawks who send others to fight their wars.

The original thread wasn't really that bad. Sure some people criticized stuff that was silly like the decor but the whole difference between the cons and the dems is that we actually allow differing opinions and discussion. They are programmed, talk the talk or else and I certainly wouldn't want to be a part of that. If she does then goodbye.

[Riding this Donkey]

31. unfb..................................eom

[Stop_the_War]

32. The funny thing is:

She had 5000 posts.

[BrklynLiberal]

41. I see you found that image you were looking for...

[Stop_the_War]

50. Yes I did lol thanks

:hug:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

33. When I read Vetwife's post earlier this morning, I had a feeling

that she was being deliberately devisive, as her charges in the post of wholesale military bashing at DU was unfounded.

[Bouncy Ball]

37. Ha! On the American Conservative Forums

you can do an author search without even being a member.

Here she doesn't even correct a guy who calls Kerry an SOB and insults his medals:

http://www.1-2-free-forums.com/mf/americanconserv-about769.html&highlight=

[Misunderestimator]

43. This just gets better and better ... to quote:

"If Kerry could have ben awarded three or was it 4...this kid should have been able to keep his. Yeah Kerry came to my mind as well."

ala Vetwife

jeez!

[trumad]

60. Here it is...

[BrklynLiberal]

39. I wonder how many people who were defending her so vehemently

know that she is playing on boath sides of the fence.
In this case, I am not sure it is something that can be done, even to "benefit the vets".

[Cooley Hurd]

40. WTF...

A donating, long-time DUer makes a sweeping gereralization about DU being anti-vet (without posting examples, I might add) in a post LOADED with flamebait, and we now see she's been frequenting conservative websites (and even MODERATING them, ferchristsake).

And she STILL has friends and defenders here (many defenders on her flamebait thread)?

In her thread, she claimed Skinner, Eric Blumrich and "Will" (I assume she means Will Pitt) can all vouch for her sincerity, although I don't recall if Skinner & Will defender her in that thread.

Adding this all up, it would appear, IMHO, we have a master disruptor in our midst (or, at least, we used to)...

On edit: reread her thread, and Skinner & Will didn't post in it at all. So much for that "vouch"...

[Bouncy Ball]

42. I've known for a while about the other sites

and some other DUers did too. I thought more people here knew.

[Individualist]

53. I didn't

Her behavior is contemptible. May she receive all the misfortune and unhappiness she so richly deserves!

[CatWoman]

44. I wonder if she stocked up on those purple heart band aids...........

[havocmom]

55. Master disruptor? Nah, she wasn't that influential here. Too much self

aggrandizing. More like a master-baitor I would think. Look for references to cherry picked DU posts to try and defame liberals over at her other gig. ;)

[necso]

45. Isn't that profile still active?

Trollery was my first thought when I saw the thread -- but a troll really can't be considered a troll unless tombstoned -- until then "member" applies.

[BrklynLiberal]

48. nd..not for nothing.that "thank a vet" letter has been floating around the

net for years...or something very, very similar to it.

[Just Me]

49. I am glad DU is a large umbrella under which so many can stand,....

,...but, right now,...I am really feeling,...betrayed and taken advantage of.

WTF?

[Bouncy Ball]

54. Every now and then

if someone sets off your radar just a bit, just go to google and type in their username or, if you feel like needing a shower, go to one of "those" websites and kinda look around.

If you find nothing, all the better, but if you do find something, then you'll know to kind of keep your distance.

Listen to your gut.

[Padraig18]

58. "Freepdar"

I have it and listen to it, but every once in a while, one still manages to fly below the radar.

[libnnc]

51. what ticks me off about this

is that there were so many good hearted people here who welcomed her--you know that all she was doing was trying to get a certain mood going in her threads so she could trash DU on other conservative sites. A spy is a spy.

[Bouncy Ball]

61. Very well put.

And I do feel for those who have gone to great lengths to defend her. I had a feeling they didn't know about what was said by her about us on those other websites.

[Misunderestimator]

56. In one word of defense of vetwife...

I think that she has been seduced by the other side because she is absolutely adamant that everyone support the troops unconditionally. She has gone from being a force on the left to actually help them (which I do think she tried to do with all her heart) to a puppet of the right, brainwashed like many of the troops she supports.

I feel bad for her. And I feel betrayed for having supported her.

[Goathead]

57. If she left, why is her account still active?

Tombstone that duplicitous, insincere, out-to-make-a-buck, "member" already

[kaitykaity]

62. No shit.

:grr:

[IndianaGreen]

64. Oooops! Got hand caught in cookie jar!

Well, this is an interesting development. All I can say is that if a person claims that they support the troops, then they better be calling for Bush's scalp for plunging this country into an unnecessary war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

Like our Marine speaker at the Indianapolis peace rally said: people put Support Our Troops ribbons on their cars, but that is only to feel better about themselves and it does nothing for the troops.

If you support the troops, you must oppose this war and call for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq.

[Moderator]

66. Locking.....

This person is still a member of DU and
therefore she is still protected by the rules:

Do not "stalk" another member from one discussion thread to another. Do not follow someone into another thread to try to continue a disagreement you had elsewhere. Do not talk negatively about an individual in a thread where they are not participating. Do not start a new discussion thread with the purpose of "calling out" another member or picking a fight with another member. Do not use your signature line to draw negative attention to another member of the board.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html#civility


DU Moderator