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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:34 PM
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"Camp Victory North" Near Baghdad To Be The LARGEST US Base EVER!
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 04:02 PM by leftchick
When it is completed. Also to be one of MANY in Iraq able to handle well over 100,000 US Troops. So let's not talk "exit strategy" please.....

http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2005/03/enduring_bases_iraq.html

~snip~

The omnipresence of the giant defense contractor KBR (formerly Kellogg, Brown & Root), the shipments of concrete and other construction materials, and the transformation of decrepit Iraqi military bases into fortified American enclaves—complete with Pizza Huts and DVD stores—are just the most obvious signs that the United States has been digging in for the long haul. It's a far cry from administration assurances after the invasion that the troops could start withdrawing from Iraq as early as the fall of 2003. And it is hardly consistent with a prediction by Richard Perle, the former chairman of the Defense Policy Board, that the troops would be out of Iraq within months, or with Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmed Chalabi's guess that the U.S. occupation would last two years. Take, for example, Camp Victory North, a sprawling base near Baghdad International Airport, which the U.S. military seized just before the ouster of Saddam Hussein in April 2003. Over the past year, KBR contractors have built a small American city where about 14,000 troops are living, many hunkered down inside sturdy, wooden, air-conditioned bungalows called SEA (for Southeast Asia) huts, replicas of those used by troops in Vietnam. There's a Burger King, a gym, the country's biggest PX—and, of course, a separate compound for KBR workers, who handle both construction and logistical support. Although Camp Victory North remains a work in progress today, when complete, the complex will be twice the size of Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo—currently one of the largest overseas posts built since the Vietnam War.
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:45 PM
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1. Interesting article but your header is completely false.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:57 PM
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5. Not" Completely false"... sheesh...
<Although Camp Victory North remains a work in progress today, when complete, the complex will be twice the size of Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo—currently one of the largest overseas posts built since the Vietnam War.>

....Lets see, if it is TWICE the size of one of the largest overseas posts when complete, what does that make it?

Also there is not enough room on the subject line to write "one of the largest", but I thought it would get the point across....

The US ain't leaving Iraq for at least "a generation" according to at least one ex CIA official.

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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:01 PM
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8. Well you did get the part about Camp Victory being in Iraq correct but the
rest is false. It is not the largest ever and notice the key word in the article, "could." Sure it "could" hold 100,000 troops but it could also be the future base of Martians or the world's largest Twinkie factory but it will not.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:03 PM
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9. apparently you have not read the article...
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 04:04 PM by leftchick
so it MUST be false. :eyes:
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:24 PM
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12. I read the article. Where does it say "Largest Base Ever?" Where
does it even come close?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:24 PM
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10. It also insures that the "Iraqi Army" will never be equipped
with artillery, tanks or aircraft that could potentially be used to attack these "enduring bases".

Iraq = US Petroleum Protectorate
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:49 PM
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2. This confirms that the neo-cons are going to re-instate the draft.
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:55 PM
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4. In what way?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:34 PM
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13. yepper! and I say....
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:51 PM
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3. What a good target for a Pakistani nuke on a cheap UAV!
And remember, the Pakistanis are not really our friends.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:01 PM
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7. Good point. These bases will be nothing but big ass targets ...

For the Resistance, as mentioned in the article...

<Such a heavy footprint seems counterproductive, given the growing antipathy felt by most Iraqis toward the U.S. military occupation. Yet Camp Victory North appears to be a harbinger of America's future in Iraq. >
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:24 PM
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11. And nukes excel at taking out big targets. nt
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:00 PM
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6. No, to "Exit" is not part of the strategy
never was.
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