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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:22 PM
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Let's try to understand Maria (Arnie's wife)
She says she's a Dem but supports her husband. That includes supporting his Republican ambitions. I don't think Arnie would have won without Maria hawking him.

So, his first words to her were, "Nice Ass!" She thought that was funny. Here was a steroid pumping muscle man and actor wannabe. Why did she marry him? Why does she use her Kennedy connections to support him?

My guess: She's an abused wife trying to pacify her husband.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:23 PM
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1. If she's a Dem she needs to divorce that scum named Ahnold...
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:24 PM
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2. She's a fence sitter
like a DLC-type (repub lite) and she's into ugly bulging Frankenstein-
looking kinda guys? I used to think more highly of her though.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:26 PM
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3. He may be whipped at home
and compensates by his macho swaggering in public.

Who knows? I never know what attracts two people to each other, even when one of them is me.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:27 PM
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4. She's hardly abused--she married him as an act of rebellion, I think.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:31 PM
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6. She might have married him because...
she loves him. How can any of us know what is in the mind of someone else, especially someone we don't know personally?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:08 PM
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21. who says I don't know her?
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:28 PM
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5. Seeing Arnie and Rove joking around together on CSPAN ..
on Inaugeration Day (did I spell that right?) ... made me ill.

I heard that she and Arnold were very mad when the Booooshies went back on their word about an environmental policy - apparently the Boooshies had made promises to them (a tit for tat thing or whatever) - and then reneged.

But they were willing to do what it took to get into the Governor's mansion ...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:42 PM
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:46 PM
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8. Arnold is California's Bush. Fuck M Shriver! She is BushCo. (NT)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:48 PM
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9. i watched them on oprah
the three of them. two powerful women. oprah who has alwys stood up for women. after that show, i havent turned back to oprah. what i saw

i saw arnold say things about women that were so disresptful, and the two women tried to shush him. he wouldnt be shushed. quieted. he continued with the talk. told me, these women hear the offensive that arnold is to women. yet one wife the other friend, they defended him. and ignored it. for me, that is being spineless a sell out

when it came out all his groping and the pig he is with women, doesnt matter what his wife feels or thinks or why she is with him. doesnt matter.

he is a pig.

with inlaws watching true lies after learning about arnie, made me sic. especially certain scenes when it was about degrading curtis the woman, in her sexuality. just made me sick. kept saying, cant stand the man, cant stand the movie now. didnt feel that way before

i did flash on wife abuse during the oprah show
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:54 PM
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10. Same reaction
The whole show was strange. What is it with this man? Lost all respect for Oprah.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:56 PM
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11. wow cally
so i wasnt alone huh. wow. hm
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:09 PM
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12. When she replaced Diane Sawyer back on the early morning
CBS show, I think back in the early eighties, I found her incredibly dumb and that had to be dumber than Diane, a hard thing to do. Remember back on those early shows, they didn't have writers to field questions to the various guests they had, so even though Diane made an effort to be Barbara Walters, Maria came across like a valley girl with half the vocabulary.

If she was interviewing Hollywood celebrities, she was in her element and seemed to know everything about everybody and her lack of English skills weren't a problem, but if she got a serious writer or politician on, the interview was comically embarrassing.

I'm sure she has grown up and grown wiser since those days, but why she believes the stuffed Austrian sausage is still OK is beyond my comprehension. Certainly, no one can be that dumb that long.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:17 PM
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13. She doesn't seem very bright to me - just anorexic Stepford wife type.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:22 PM
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14. I believe you have it right.
My big problem is with the Kennedys. I mean I can see why they would accept him as an in-law. It's the decent thing to do, but I really don't think they should be showcasing him politically. As a matter-of-fact, they should have been speaking up against the whole recall thing. I was very disappointed.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:22 PM
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15. There are the two Maria's past to talk about...the daughter and neice
in the Kennedy family who had a career and the wife-mother-supporter. The Maria that really counts is the one that would be running for First Lady if the right nuts have their way.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:24 PM
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16. Laura II IMHO, n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:34 PM
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17. Can't Make Up My Mind about Her
Not that I have followed her career. But she seems to play it both ways, playing off the KENNEDY p.r. while saying she chose Ahhnuld because she wanted somebody different from KERRY, that she grew up with the guys like KERRY.

I didn't care so long as Ahhnuld was just a circus freak. But she was clearly on board in getting him to take the FAKE recall. OtOH, she refused to attend the Repuke convention. She claims his Repuke-ism comes from his being a new "immigrant", which is true---the minorities that are 2nd, 3rd generation might tend to be Dems, but brand new immigrants tend to play with the wingnuts.

One thing to clear up: What was it about when McCAIN cussed her out (during the 2000 Repuke primaries?) Surely he knew who she was, and I doubt that her "reporting" could have been SO probing as to be irritating. It was a crowd scene, McCAIN and wife were exiting, Maria was pressed against a wall with a hand mic, and McCAIN blasted her.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:52 PM
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18. I kind of distinctly remember her being at the Repuke convention.
She was at the Democratic one too. Am I right or wrong? You have made me doubt my memory. Oh, the senility is setting it. I shall go google.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:01 PM
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19. Nope, not senile.
Sorry, she was there.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/31/gop.schwarzenegger/

"Schwarzenegger made note of his own bipartisan appeal. His wife is Maria Shriver, a member of the famously Democratic Kennedy clan. She sat in the president's box during her husband's speech, next to the first President Bush."
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:19 PM
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23. Oh. Well, Glad about the Non-senility Anyway! n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:48 PM
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25. Google Is AMAZing - the Skinny on McCAIN-SHRIVER
*******QUOTE*******

http://nowthis.com/log/2000/03/13.html

http://dir.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2000/03/10/mccain/index.html?pn=3

Still, around him, it kept getting uglier. There was the Maria Shriver incident, for instance. On Tuesday, as the results became apparent, NBC's Shriver parachuted into his hotel at the Beverly Hilton and demanded an interview. McCain, already turning down interviews with bigger names like Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather, not to mention members of his traveling press corps who have followed him for months, demurred. Shriver, not taking no for an answer, stood in a stairway hoping to ambush Super Tuesday's big loser.

According to several witnesses, Shriver got to McCain after his advance man, Lanny Wiles, blocked her path. "She did a Lawrence Taylor pick-and-roll around Lanny," said one Pulitzer Prize-winning photojournalist.



In the process, Shriver's soundman and cameraman accidentally banged their equipment into Bridget McCain, the senator's adopted 8-year-old daughter. Cindy McCain yelled at Shriver. McCain -- caught on camera -- snapped at her to get out of his way. Shriver got great footage -- the irritable, mercurial, bitter McCain getting angry for no discernible reason.

A McCain staffer managed to keep the footage from being broadcast on "Today" after complaining to NBC honchos of Shriver's behavior. The footage was then dumped at the doorstep of "Entertainment Tonight," which not surprisingly ran it with no compunction -- or context -- whatsoever. "Crazy Angry Bitter John McCain" stories buzzed on "Extra!" and other schlock without mention that he was reacting to Shriver and crew's assault on his daughter.

http://www.courttv.com/archive/onair/shows/criertoday/commentaries/0309.html

Today an article appeared in the TV section of the New York Daily News. The headline reads "McCain's Sharp Brush-off, Candidate's shortness with Shriver shocks observers."

Apparently, Maria Shriver had positioned herself between Senator McCain and the podium to catch a comment before he gave his concession speech. As he approached, having just lost the majority of states in the Super Tuesday primary and probably facing the end of his hard fought campaign, Shriver gave him the old "how do you feel". He brushed past her then turned and said, "Please get out of here".

I wouldn't have said 'please'. Yet the story reads as if McCain did something wrong. Surely it was a sign of his infamous temper. The MSNBC general manager, Erik Sorenson, was quoted as saying "It was not unprecedented and certainly something that could happen again." Well, I hope so.

http://dir.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2000/03/15/suprtues/index.html

But the big event I missed appears to have been reporter Maria ("The Hair") Shriver nearly getting into a scratch fest with Cindy ("Stepford Sally") McCain as the NBC cameraman trampled over a random daughter -- a tacky scene reminiscent of the paparazzi frenzies of Fellini's "La Dolce Vita," where hunted children glimpse the Madonna in a rainy meadow and where Anita Ekberg gets slapped around by her lush of a boyfriend in front of a Rome hotel.


********UNQUOTE*******
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:09 PM
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26. Maria is a media whore, no doubt.
She wasn't hired because she was a journalist but because she was a Kennedy and willing to play the media whore game. It doesn't change the fact that she's dumber than, well you know....
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greatbubba Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:03 PM
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20. She is not normal anorexia does stuff to people
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:15 PM
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22. I think there is more going on
I still don't understand.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:28 PM
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24. Kennedys circle the wagons around family members . . .
even if they're part of the clan by marriage . . . I've even heard RFK Jr. touting Ahnolds virtues while referring to him as "my cousin" . . .
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