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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:44 AM
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Do we really care if Freepers post at DU?
I've only ready a few of the posts re: Vetwife, so I don't really know what's going on, but one of the things (one of many) that distinguishes the liberal left from the foaming-at-the-mouth freepers is a bit of perspective, a little tolerance, and the confidence that we have a more valid, mature, and humane point of view that should innoculate us from the vile putrid miasma that arises from the swamps such lowlifes occupy.

Let 'em hang out here. Can we really be "disrupted" by the likes of them? Flame 'em and let 'em burn if they need it -- but keep in mind that at the end of the day they have to go to bed as themselves and that's greater punishment than anything we could dole out.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:46 AM
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1. Yes. I Care
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 02:52 AM by mermaid
They poison the waters. They are evil monsters who ought to simply be killed.

ON EDIT: When I say "killed" I mean they should have their accounts here killed. but, I thought that I oughta clear that up...because most here would have understood what I meant...but some might not.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:05 AM
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11. I knew what you meant. :-)
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:46 AM
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2. I was at work
So didn't see the VetWife deal as it evolved. Trying to understand it now. Listening to show that she supposedly talked to, in fact she is on now. I don't care, they are easy to spot. Usually dumb..
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:48 AM
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3. I think its a more of a feeling of betrayal than anything else...
the feeling she played us for fools, played us like a piano more or less. If you have seen her posts over years you would understand. Many have donated money and time for her cause and the cause of many, and now, those same good people were betrayed by someone they trusted, that is difficult to let go, and more difficult to forgive.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:00 AM
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5. You put that so well.
It was a betrayal and it hurts because well it was such a lie. Of all people to say don't support the troops it certainly isn't DU. We worked our butts off trying to get one elected. To think that she is just like them now.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:02 AM
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6. I know, if it was some 50 count poster...
even with a 3 dollar star by their name, no one here would have batted an eyelash to them being banned. But vetwife was supposedly different, and the thing that really kicks us in the balls is we BELIEVED her.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:06 AM
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12. And it was the broad sweep
of her accusations. She made it seem like all we do is bash the troops. Is that what she's been saying on those other boards? Personally I haven't come across any troop bashing threads.
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:21 AM
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22. Gosh...I missed all of that...
Could you paste a link?
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:14 AM
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17. Well, they only have like 60 or 70 members all told...
Seems like an unfair fight to me if we all did it. :evilgrin:
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:22 AM
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23. Jesus Christ, They Even Have a Member Named Skinner!!!
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 03:24 AM by mermaid
Fuckin' LOL!!

ON EDIT: See? Here's a cut and paste of it...

Skinner
Senior Member


Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Watching U through your window
Posts: 102
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:24 AM
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25. Yeah, NoWittsBill is another member...
Wish someone would buy them originality, at least Free Republic serves its own sick purpose, but this site, freaking copycats at best, and bad ones at that.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:18 AM
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19. Yep. They copied DU when they changed their name.
They are totally focused on DU. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. They can't top DU, so they have to copy it.

And you have to admit, there's nothing good to say about the administration they support. Do you blame them for focusing on our more interesting conversation?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:45 AM
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30. Thanks for that link... 10 More Minutes of a finite life wasted
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 03:47 AM by impeachdubya
looking at the misspelt ramblings of another gaggle of right-wing fucktards.

Nice to see that they're so obsessed with this place, though. Really. It reminds me of people who stalk low-level celebrities. ("I spent a whole week camped out in the dumpster behind Fred Willard's apartment!") Or folks who spend their lives dreaming of moving to the "big city"... one like Des Moines.

Sad.

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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:12 AM
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16. The biggest problem is she misrepresented herself....
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 03:12 AM by Solon
and then turned around and misrepresented us on DU as veteran haters when 99% of us are no such thing. Whether it was an over reaction or not is not the point, but the real nail in the coffin, for me, is this particular post I dug up because of this fiasco, look here, and see if she was nearly as honest as many would claim:

http://www.1-2-free-forums.com/mf/americanconserv-about661.html&highlight=
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:36 AM
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28. I have no problem with her being proud of her husband.
On the other hand, she should have an understanding about the "hippies" who had the proper perspective that VietNam was a losing war, that it was a waste to continue it, and that the government should end it & spare additional human life.

I don't condone the actions of some who threw tomatoes at VN veterans in the '70's, but I haven't seen any posts here that have dissed our troops in Iraq -- only those troops who get a thrill out of torturing suspected terrah-ists.

Someone who chooses the name "vetwife" does so because the fact that her husband is a veteran is very important to her; apparently, her ego needed more & she defected to a site where the participants valued war...at any cost. That's unfortunate. I respected vetwife.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:46 AM
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31. I didn't know that being proud of someone....
who would beat a hippy into the ground, as stated in that post, was defensible. I have a feeling that her husband would have probably been more than happy to torture people at Abu Graib in Iraq if given a chance. Assuming of course, that she told the truth there, and didn't exaggerate or make it up just to fit in.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:47 AM
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33. Indeed. FUCK that bitch.
My dad did 24 years, my uncle did 12, grandfather fought in WWII.

She can go fuck herself with her accusations. Betrayal doesn't sit well with me.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:55 AM
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4. if it were differing views, that would be one thing
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 03:04 AM by seabeyond
but the intent is to lie. and how do you have any conversation in lie. a person will come on and say the most outrageous thing, like, all children are evil. what do you do with that, have a serious conversation, or say wow, are you for real, and then the flame fest begins. chaos is all it is about

do you want that
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:15 AM
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18. the woman is emotionally strange and weirdly obsessed with
her online persona
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Grey Ranks Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:03 AM
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7. Tolerance Good
I am only recently starting to truly appreciate that.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:03 AM
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8. I don't want them here
There's 1,000 boards where I can go and copy and paste talking points to other people who are copying and pasting their talking points. Why the friggin' hell would anybody want that to happen to DU??? No way. There's enough division amongst DUers as it is.

All I know is, I've never bashed a DUer by name on any forum and I can't imagine that I ever would. I've rarely said anything about DU other than yeah, it can get a little wild at times. And there's some people here who drive me right over the edge. So when somebody does that, I have zero respect for them. When they do it on a conservative forum, well, gee, what's less than zero?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:51 AM
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35. That's true. This is one of the few places where they can't shout us down

Which is, essentially, the essence of "debate" in Freepish. Silence the opposition, since they're treasonous anti-Merkin dirtbags anyway. Blather the same shit that Drudge or Limbaugh or Savage or Coulter or one of those other yammering nincompoops is putting out on the dipshit-wire frequency that day, keep repeating it until a certain segment of the population accepts it as gospel truth. Rinse. Repeat.

They've done this crap to what once was rational dialogue in the rest of our society. I see no reason to welcome it here.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:51 AM
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36. I second that motion
I get "triggered" enough having to deal with their ilk elsewhere- the last place I want to see them is on DU.

If I want freeper talk, I can trun on the radio, watch any televison "news" program, listen to them call in on Washington Journal or- God forbid, read their drivel in the Oregonian....
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:04 AM
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9. Yes I care. If I want to talk to Freeper assholes
I'd rather NOT do it in my living room. DU is our HOME! It's not some putrid bi-partisan swamp. We're not here to chat with freepers, we're here to try to set an agenda and bring about progress for America. Getting weighed down with swamp garbage only hinders our goal.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:10 AM
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14. Swamp Garbage! LOL
I agree, though! DU is OUR home! And I don't let conservatives cross my threshhold in real life. If they voted Republican, they are not welcome in my home. I do not tolerate Republicans.

Except Arlen Specter. He's the one exception. There is an exception to every rule. Sen. Specter long ago EARNED my respect...and my vote. Twice, in fact, when I last lived in Pennsylvania.

And since it looks likely I will soon be moving back to Pennsylvania, he may yet have a chance to get my vote a third time. Although he just ran and won, so it'll be six more years...and then, only if he decides to run again. He's getting up there, and has Hodgkins.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:04 AM
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10. I must have missed that.
Earlier today, I caught a posting by someone with a similar name, and a rant about "soldier-bashing on DU". It seemed to me that she OVER-Reacted, but I didn't sense any agent provcateur style in her posting. Did I see the right thread? Did I miss something? Can somebody direct me to the relevant thread? (Will I ever run out of questions?)

pnorman
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:21 AM
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21. Vetwife was just a silly freeper
who had little concern for our troops other than the political play she used them for. I think of the aircraft full of coffins of our kids which her kind tried to hide and minimize, but then she blasts us. Oh, well that's the GOP. She's typical. God forgive her. Now let her and Gannon go masturbate together.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:23 AM
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24. That reply really doesn't help me.
pnorman
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:18 AM
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20. Being liberal.....
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 03:19 AM by pauliedangerously
...we should welcome them and offer consolation and understanding. Getting mad at someone for being a Freeper is like getting mad at a puppy for pissing on the floor. It doesn't know any better. It needs to be redirected and taught how to behave. You give it a swat on the butt and say, "Bad dog/Freeper." You wipe its nose in the piss and put it outside. When it learns to piss outside, you praise it, "good dog/Freeper."

Maybe we should have a special discussion board for Freepers with newspapers on the floor.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:26 AM
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26. We Welcome Them ONLY When They PUT DOWN THE KOOL-AID!!!
n/t
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:30 AM
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27. Do people really drink that crap? nt
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:46 AM
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32. It wouldn't be a fair fight, though.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 03:48 AM by 8_year_nightmare
Common sense & facts are on our side. And dogs do have more sense than freepers. Wetting on the floor can be corrected.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:10 AM
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38. No
Treating them like puppies pissing on the floor when they're actually rabid dogs is going to leave you with your nose ripped off and stuck up your butt. If you want to potty-train rabid dogs, you go on ahead and do that. Away from here.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:42 AM
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29. They make me mad, because they're so stupid.
I wish I could have the DU Kool-Aid stand concession.

"Oh, HI!, Let me dip you up some scrumptious grape sugar water approved by the current Administration. Home Land Security, says drink it all up..."

"5 cents please."

I would make a mint and donate it all to DU.

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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:50 AM
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34. Yep, especially when they post from defense contractor's IPs.
I can confirm this claim, too.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:55 AM
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37. No. But I'll go after them. Just like my supid freeper friends that
repeat the Limburger/Rove talking points.

Bring it on.

Let's roll.

ETC.


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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:31 AM
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39. Just wondering
Does anyone know if vetwife & her husband have any ties to John O'Neill (the Swift Liar)? Sounds like they were of the same thinking during the Vietnam era.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:37 AM
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40. YES I care
I do not want them here. I hear their point of view everyday when I try to listen to the 'news', their point of view is in the paper and their morAn is in the Whitehouse and I want one place where I do not have to be subjected to their idiotcy...I do not want them here! :mad:
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