I don't believe in blind patriotism

[DianeG5385]

and neither did our founding fathers. Our country is in peril and we are arguing trivialities. That's just what they want us to do to keep us off course. Buck up, people and pay attention to what's really going on; the systematic pillage and plunder of our treasure for private purposes. Our assets are being abused and we must recover an accountable government.

[Erika]

1. Agreed

Bush has reduced our liberties through the Patriot Act and he has taken over the news media. He IS a Hitler.

[dave123williams]

2. Let us examine their differences:

Bush's political apparaticheks use a lot of the same tactics, the same kinds of demagoguery...

Just substitute the word 'homo' for how Hitler painted the Jews, and you'll get the idea. No special privileges for 'them', they're somehow less than human, a danger to your kids, they're promoting an agenda, their lives aren't 'pure' or 'virtuous', they shouldn't have the same responsibilities or rights as the rest of us...it goes on and on.

The difference between Hitler and Bush is this; Hitler was coldly counting on the consequences of his rhetoric and his alliances. I don't think Bush actually ever reflects on the consequences of his actions, not for a moment.

He just spews a message of fear, rattles a saber (sometimes unsheathing it), and gobbles money and power like they're Peperidge Farm Goldfish.

He seems believe all of this nonsense about spreading freedom. Freedom isn't spread at the barrel of a gun; it's defended at the barrel of a gun. The second we started a war without provocation, we lost the right to claim that we were spreading anything but bullshit.

Which is more dangerous? The calculating demagogue, or the reckless one?

[AuntPatsy]

3. I agree with you as well. So that leaves me with the knowledge

that many on this board need to understand that no one is above suspicion at this point, no more misplaced idolizing, it's wasteful and causes too much dissent and leaves people feeling depressed when such falls of the pedastals we tend to put some on. Many posters have said this before but it bares repeating.

Actions speak louder than words. So our issues must be met with real actions and not mere promises that are continualy being virtualy ignored by many dems these days or they could take the same road as our late Vetwife and be ousted..

And for those of you who are following in Vetwife's left behind trail, your wasting your time you know. The only difference between you guys and ourselves is that we desire freedom for all Americans regardless of race, creed etc...

We all have the same needs in the end, health care, education, economic issues, civil liberties etc, the issues that matter to our very existance and we DONT like being lied to by our leaders...

We don't have to like each other or even believe in the same issues, but we DO need eachother.

Tolerance is a good beginning in finding some kind of happy medium...